Okay, Enough Lieing, GUYS, is this whant you really want?

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LePetitPrince
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09 Oct 2007, 2:24 pm

'friends with benefits' plan you say , eh ? if you are not attractive enough to be a someone's bf then you are not attractive enough to be a 'friend with benefit' of someone ...note that being picked as a 'friend benefit' is purely based on physical attraction and it's even much harder than being picked as bf ...in case you are not handsome .

so if you are ugly then you are screwed in both cases .



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09 Oct 2007, 2:50 pm

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This is probably why I am so confused. I think many of the guys with Asperger's act completely different than guys who are Neurotypical. The "NT's" are just basically more prone to the "jerk-like" behavior which gets the girls. The "As's" are much more likely to be nice guys; but nice guysdon't usually end up getting the girls(In the experiences I have encountered).

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Mmmm...generalizations all around. Very Happy

I don't see how it would be possible for me not to generalize? After all- It is only my experiences and my opinions, of course I would generalize.

Brian003 wrote:
I could just imagining asking all the guys in my dorm right now what they wanted- Sex or a Relationship- They would all be like "Ummmmm, yeah; A Relationship.(While thinking about sex exactly as they are saying this).

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You have a device that allows you to read minds???
The schematics. Give them to me. Now.


Yes....it is right here in my back pocket. But you cannot touch it. It is far too valuable.

Brian003 wrote:
I didn't necessarily want other people to agree with me, because different people have different tastes and opinions.

However, I do think that most of the guys I know want the same thing as me; at least in college :(.

shadexiii wrote:
...why is this a :( situation for you? You already stated that different people will view this differently, so that can't be related to it...
If most guys want a one night stand, that's less guys that will tie up the women in those "pesky" relationships... so you still would have plenty to pick from... so why the :( ?


It is a :( situation because it limits the girls who are virgins.

Of course that is completely 100% hypocritical to what I want- But I never fully expected to make sense of it all.



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09 Oct 2007, 2:53 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
'friends with benefits' plan you say , eh ? if you are not attractive enough to be a someone's bf then you are not attractive enough to be a 'friend with benefit' of someone ...note that being picked as a 'friend benefit' is purely based on physical attraction and it's even much harder than being picked as bf ...in case you are not handsome .

so if you are ugly then you are screwed in both cases .


Yeah if I was ugly then I would pretty much be screwed in all ways possible.



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09 Oct 2007, 5:21 pm

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Sex w/o some kind of interest and appreciation of the other person seems too close to masturbation for my tastes... Course, I may be the minority in this respect.


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09 Oct 2007, 7:27 pm

Brian003 wrote:
Yeah if I was ugly then I would pretty much be screwed in all ways possible.
As time marches on...



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09 Oct 2007, 9:40 pm

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Pffft, I'm not interested in simple sex.


Indeed. Complex sex is MUCH more interesting. :P


Oh you laugh now, but wait until I'm having Complex Sex and you're just having boring old normal sex, then you'll be begging for me to teach you my secrets. :twisted:


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09 Oct 2007, 10:18 pm

Brian003 wrote:
Yeah if I was ugly then I would pretty much be screwed in all ways possible.


Crap. And I thought my looks were an ADVANTAGE. :?



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09 Oct 2007, 10:27 pm

If you believe you could have easily gotten a date in high school and now in college but aren't because you desire "just sex," you're clearly deluding yourself. Even if you wanted just the sex, you would go on these dates you could apparently easily get because you know dating often leads to sex.

Absolutely any kind of interaction with women (marriage, relationship, friends with benefits, one-night stand) requires great social skill. I am intelligent, knowledgeable, kind, and so forth; but my approaches with women always fall flat (even if they show interest in me first!). Why? Poor social skills and flat affect (i.e., I look boring).



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09 Oct 2007, 11:36 pm

Yes but I would take it a step further and not even be friends with her, I just want a human fuck-doll.

This is just for sex though.

Relationships are infinitely better than random sex (so I hear, I haven't been in a serious relationship). Sex can be easy to come by, an real relationship takes work.

I don't have A) the social skills, or B) the women around me that I need to get a date these days. If I really need to get laid, I just man up and pay for a high class escort. Same price as a few dates, and sex is guaranteed.



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10 Oct 2007, 12:30 am

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Yes but I would take it a step further and not even be friends with her, I just want a human f**k-doll.

This is just for sex though.
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Might I suggest a RealDoll?



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10 Oct 2007, 1:20 am

calandale wrote:
Space wrote:
Yes but I would take it a step further and not even be friends with her, I just want a human f**k-doll.

This is just for sex though.
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Might I suggest a RealDoll?

I walked right into that one.



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10 Oct 2007, 1:23 am

Actually, I'm not joking.
Yeah, I know that there are
differences, but seems cheaper,
in the long run.

Well, the technology's not really
there yet, but soon, I would guess.
I've seen some pretty decent AI
chat engines, which if combined with
the physical exterior of a RealDoll,
might be pretty good. Not at all sure
what the quality of the actual openings
are though. But, I'm sure that that's going
to be pretty good, in the end.



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10 Oct 2007, 1:29 am

calandale wrote:
Actually, I'm not joking.
Yeah, I know that there are
differences, but seems cheaper,
in the long run.

Well a RealDolls are expensive, but they are still about 50000 times less than a real woman.



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10 Oct 2007, 1:43 am

I haven't tried one. Depends on what you
want, I guess. Not sure what the physical
feeling would be. Still, lack of movement
would be pretty odd.

As to expense though, depends on how often
you want it. Considering the alternative of
a prostitute, some 25 visits would pay for it.

As I said though, I suspect we'll be seeing MUCH
better in a decade or so. And by then, I probably
won't need sex at all.



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10 Oct 2007, 11:29 am

NeantHumain wrote:
If you believe you could have easily gotten a date in high school and now in college but aren't because you desire "just sex," you're clearly deluding yourself.


I don't think I could get a date easily now in College. In high school I was significantly more attractive and I portrayed very few(if any) of the AS traits. I never really wanted the whole dating thing anyway; and I don't even remember if I was all about sex. I was probably obsessed with something else that I can't even remember.

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Even if you wanted just the sex, you would go on these dates you could apparently easily get because you know dating often leads to sex.


No I wouldn't. Dating requires a lot of time and effort. If I just want sex: I will hit on a girl who I believe is "easy" and I will go for a one night stand.

NeantHumain wrote:
Absolutely any kind of interaction with women (marriage, relationship, friends with benefits, one-night stand) requires great social skill. I am intelligent, knowledgeable, kind, and so forth; but my approaches with women always fall flat (even if they show interest in me first!). Why? Poor social skills and flat affect (i.e., I look boring).


This is something I finally agree with you about :). Looks can made up for poor social skills to a certain extent; but they certainly don't make the process any easier.



Space wrote:
Yes but I would take it a step further and not even be friends with her, I just want a human f**k-doll.

This is just for sex though.

Relationships are infinitely better than random sex (so I hear, I haven't been in a serious relationship). Sex can be easy to come by, an real relationship takes work.


I couldn't have worded it better myself....though I would never actually admit this to someone I knew :).



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10 Oct 2007, 6:08 pm

Space wrote:
calandale wrote:
Actually, I'm not joking.
Yeah, I know that there are
differences, but seems cheaper,
in the long run.

Well a RealDolls are expensive, but they are still about 50000 times less than a real woman.

And a "high-class escort" is maybe 25,000 times less than a woman you actually love and care about. Yes, it'll scratch an itch, but you may find you do want something more than the raw physical act, even if it's just a little enthusiasm.