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28 Feb 2008, 2:00 pm

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I am not blaming my height ....I know loads of short guys who are ladies guys because they are very social.


I am just saying that short height make thing harder , a short guy/girl needs to make more effort so people can see her/him mature in their eyes.

I just asked "how tall are you?" and you and that kid started to psychologically analyzing me.


I think kid020 is the 'id' of ToadOfSteel.


two words: Al Pacino.



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28 Feb 2008, 2:03 pm

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I could have them against a wall and bang them easily, and they treat me like a child!


:? .... with that sort of attitude, I'm not surprised you're not getting the respect you want.


this is not something I would ever say to them, so what about all the guys who get girls by having this attitude?


I'm going to be very frank and tell you what I'm observing here.

Right now you're talking over the Internet, and not in real time... so you have the opportunity to pause, collect your thoughts, etc. But you are still making some very impulsive statements without taking time to think it over before you hit "submit". When you're in a face-to-face social situation, you have even less opportunity for self-editing, so I imagine that when you're around a girl who makes you feel comfortable, you may be saying a lot of things that sound kind of silly or even jerk-like, because it's the first thing that came to mind.

Or is the timidity you talk about born of the fear of that happening?


I'm not like this at all in real life. I'm just a nice guy who can be timid especially around pretty girls. I'm intimidated by the outgoingpretty girls but those are the girls I like, because frankly it's damn easier to be in a relationship with an outgoing girl if your shy.



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28 Feb 2008, 2:04 pm

kid020 wrote:
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I am not blaming my height ....I know loads of short guys who are ladies guys because they are very social.


I am just saying that short height make thing harder , a short guy/girl needs to make more effort so people can see her/him mature in their eyes.

I just asked "how tall are you?" and you and that kid started to psychologically analyzing me.


I think kid020 is the 'id' of ToadOfSteel.


two words: Al Pacino.


Oh, don't you think that he made an enormous effort to become a successful and famous actor?



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28 Feb 2008, 2:05 pm

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Sigh...much confusion.

First of all, theres no such thing as a gentleman. I don't care what you think of certain actions and how rude they may be, the simple fact is women like assertiveness. Their sexual nature is submissive by default, and although they scream and cry for a sensitive guy, don't ever be so foolish as to think they don't want to be dominated in some way.

And second, it doesn't matter what face a person puts on when faced with a certain situation. I am both the Lord and Savior, I could explain in pages how humanity should be saved, how it has it's graces. Then in the other, I could reveal how much I detest and despise them all, and how the failed experiment known as creation cannot be corrected unless erased.

So, in closing, think a little more in depth of what people may say, and how they act. They're human after all, and follow a rather predictable pattern of thinking...


Okay there are gentleman. What is your socioeconomical background? I'm guessing you are lower-class or you wouldn't have said. Also you are generalizing. Not all women like the overly assertive a**hole type. If they were all like that the human race would pretty much be extinct. Also I have met many domineering and agressive women who were still very feminine. There are sensitive men who are masculine, and frankly I think your view of the world is quite small, or you would know that there are all different types of men and women. On another note guys who are naturally shy should not have to change who they are. American society in many ways is getting very progressive in this area, and you do see shy men with domineering women. Yet people sometimes jokes about it. Btw the anime references make YOU seem quite childish and immature, time to turnoff the cartoons.


Wow, such a hostile response. You're weak. We will not get along.

But anyway, you're completely wrong. All women seek to be dominated, whether it be physical, sexual, intellectual or by means of judgement by society through their behavior of gender reversal.

You say if things were this way, we would be extinct. Just the opposite. Humans are nowhere near perfect, as you so "accurately" portray. Intelligence was never factored into our being, yet alone social pre-dispositions. And so we struggle, against basic instinct of survival of the fittest, constantly adapting what we feel so deeply into what we think we should be.

I take you, for example. So frustrated with your failure. You're not one to be dominant, simply by intellectual nature. You know it's wrong. But, it's now what you feel.

And so, you lash out. You're unable to understand everything around and inside you, so you're alone. And so, you begin to hate. You value yourself above others, giving condescending remarks about "class" status. How petty.

You're cornered. You don't know what to do. You came here, you saw truth your hateful self didn't want to accept. Put it down, put it down simply and quickly. Your right, and any other is wrong and stupid. I pity you, and the life that awaits you.

So predictable.


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28 Feb 2008, 2:06 pm

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I am not blaming my height ....I know loads of short guys who are ladies guys because they are very social.


I am just saying that short height make thing harder , a short guy/girl needs to make more effort so people can see her/him mature in their eyes.

I just asked "how tall are you?" and you and that kid started to psychologically analyzing me.


I think kid020 is the 'id' of ToadOfSteel.


two words: Al Pacino.


Oh, don't you think that he made an enormous effort to become a successful and famous actor?

what you mean he was very confident? yea thats my point he was a tough guy and short.



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28 Feb 2008, 2:07 pm

Maybe it's the whole "two personalities" thing you were talking about. When I get the sense that someone is hiding some of their traits from me, I don't open up to that person. I engage on a more superficial level. Maybe that's what they're doing?


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28 Feb 2008, 2:08 pm

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I am not blaming my height ....I know loads of short guys who are ladies guys because they are very social , yet don't be too fooled social skills are not just everything too.


I am just saying that short height make thing harder , a short guy/girl needs to make more effort so people can see her/him mature in their eyes.

I just asked "how tall are you?" and you and that kid started to psychologically analyzing me.


I think kid020 is the 'id' of ToadOfSteel.


Are you implying that I lack my own id? I could let my own id loose for a while, but it would probably get me banned :twisted:



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28 Feb 2008, 2:16 pm

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Sigh...much confusion.

First of all, theres no such thing as a gentleman. I don't care what you think of certain actions and how rude they may be, the simple fact is women like assertiveness. Their sexual nature is submissive by default, and although they scream and cry for a sensitive guy, don't ever be so foolish as to think they don't want to be dominated in some way.

And second, it doesn't matter what face a person puts on when faced with a certain situation. I am both the Lord and Savior, I could explain in pages how humanity should be saved, how it has it's graces. Then in the other, I could reveal how much I detest and despise them all, and how the failed experiment known as creation cannot be corrected unless erased.

So, in closing, think a little more in depth of what people may say, and how they act. They're human after all, and follow a rather predictable pattern of thinking...


Okay there are gentleman. What is your socioeconomical background? I'm guessing you are lower-class or you wouldn't have said. Also you are generalizing. Not all women like the overly assertive a**hole type. If they were all like that the human race would pretty much be extinct. Also I have met many domineering and agressive women who were still very feminine. There are sensitive men who are masculine, and frankly I think your view of the world is quite small, or you would know that there are all different types of men and women. On another note guys who are naturally shy should not have to change who they are. American society in many ways is getting very progressive in this area, and you do see shy men with domineering women. Yet people sometimes jokes about it. Btw the anime references make YOU seem quite childish and immature, time to turnoff the cartoons.


Wow, such a hostile response. You're weak. We will not get along.

But anyway, you're completely wrong. All women seek to be dominated, whether it be physical, sexual, intellectual or by means of judgement by society through their behavior of gender reversal.

You say if things were this way, we would be extinct. Just the opposite. Humans are nowhere near perfect, as you so "accurately" portray. Intelligence was never factored into our being, yet alone social pre-dispositions. And so we struggle, against basic instinct of survival of the fittest, constantly adapting what we feel so deeply into what we think we should be.

I take you, for example. So frustrated with your failure. You're not one to be dominant, simply by intellectual nature. You know it's wrong. But, it's now what you feel.

And so, you lash out. You're unable to understand everything around and inside you, so you're alone. And so, you begin to hate. You value yourself above others, giving condescending remarks about "class" status. How petty.

You're cornered. You don't know what to do. You came here, you saw truth your hateful self didn't want to accept. Put it down, put it down simply and quickly. Your right, and any other is wrong and stupid. I pity you, and the life that awaits you.

So predictable.



I am far from weak. I am also someone that has had a wide view of the world. There are women who are dominant and certainly feminine and sensitive men who are not dominant yet masculine. Your opinions are dumb, and I disagree. Also in certain social classes of society men can act sensitive and artistic and things like that and it is perfectly acceptable. A construction worker acts domineering and agressive simply because he has to in order to survive. A composer may come across as the submissive male type. These weren't condescending remarks. I am assuming you are American as am I and in our society we tend to erase class while most other societies underline it. And I'm not talking about money here I'm talking about classy beahvior by definition. You see 14 year olds wearing tatoos and getting drunk in our society, very low-class behavior. How many people listen to hip-hop as opossed to broadway? Yet the street-wise mentality is glorified. There is no reason to pity me at all, because I actually no how to get women, yet I just have a difficult time with it right now, due to social skills problems I have always had and frankly due to luck. That is what life is. Life is about luck.



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28 Feb 2008, 2:18 pm

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Maybe it's the whole "two personalities" thing you were talking about. When I get the sense that someone is hiding some of their traits from me, I don't open up to that person. I engage on a more superficial level. Maybe that's what they're doing?

quite possible, all though this topic isn't superficial, it's serious.



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28 Feb 2008, 2:21 pm

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Maybe it's the whole "two personalities" thing you were talking about. When I get the sense that someone is hiding some of their traits from me, I don't open up to that person. I engage on a more superficial level. Maybe that's what they're doing?

quite possible, all though this topic isn't superficial, it's serious.


Oh, I didn't intend to imply that -this- is a superficial conversation. Rather, you may find that others can sense when you're "holding back" a (major) part of yourself, and they may follow suit.

I've had that problem. It doesn't result in me being treated like a child, but it makes it hard for me to form friendships with women because I am shy about volunteering information about myself and so they are more reluctant to share about themselves in return. People want to make genuine connections but it's hard for an aspie to understand what is and isn't okay to talk about.


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28 Feb 2008, 2:23 pm

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Maybe it's the whole "two personalities" thing you were talking about. When I get the sense that someone is hiding some of their traits from me, I don't open up to that person. I engage on a more superficial level. Maybe that's what they're doing?

quite possible, all though this topic isn't superficial, it's serious.


Oh, I didn't intend to imply that -this- is a superficial conversation. Rather, you may find that others can sense when you're "holding back" a part of yourself, and they may follow suit.


Noq quite sure I follow you? Holding back when, online now or in real life?



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28 Feb 2008, 2:26 pm

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Noq quite sure I follow you? Holding back when, online now or in real life?


Ah, I'm just speculating anyhow. What I mean is IRL, when you are focusing on being nice and polite, maybe women feel like they can't connect with you?

I don't know how this stuff works, either.


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28 Feb 2008, 2:28 pm

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Noq quite sure I follow you? Holding back when, online now or in real life?


Ah, I'm just speculating anyhow. What I mean is IRL, when you are focusing on being nice and polite, maybe women feel like they can't connect with you?

I don't know how this stuff works, either.


Gwen is trying to tell you that you are a hypocrite and pathetically pretender , kiddy.



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28 Feb 2008, 2:33 pm

I do not have AS, but I feel I should comment on this since I get this too.

I often feel like I'm treated like a child or some sort of "neat novelty." It's a pain in the ass, and somewhat obvious, I'm a year younger than most college students, and I look younger than my age on top of that. It's frustrating and I don't feel like I'm taken seriously all the time.


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28 Feb 2008, 2:33 pm

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Noq quite sure I follow you? Holding back when, online now or in real life?


Ah, I'm just speculating anyhow. What I mean is IRL, when you are focusing on being nice and polite, maybe women feel like they can't connect with you?

I don't know how this stuff works, either.


Gwen is trying to tell you that you are a hypocrite and pathetically pretender , kiddy.


Aren't we all!

Er. Hypocrites, that is.


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28 Feb 2008, 2:34 pm

kid020 wrote:
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Sigh...much confusion.

First of all, theres no such thing as a gentleman. I don't care what you think of certain actions and how rude they may be, the simple fact is women like assertiveness. Their sexual nature is submissive by default, and although they scream and cry for a sensitive guy, don't ever be so foolish as to think they don't want to be dominated in some way.

And second, it doesn't matter what face a person puts on when faced with a certain situation. I am both the Lord and Savior, I could explain in pages how humanity should be saved, how it has it's graces. Then in the other, I could reveal how much I detest and despise them all, and how the failed experiment known as creation cannot be corrected unless erased.

So, in closing, think a little more in depth of what people may say, and how they act. They're human after all, and follow a rather predictable pattern of thinking...


Okay there are gentleman. What is your socioeconomical background? I'm guessing you are lower-class or you wouldn't have said. Also you are generalizing. Not all women like the overly assertive a**hole type. If they were all like that the human race would pretty much be extinct. Also I have met many domineering and agressive women who were still very feminine. There are sensitive men who are masculine, and frankly I think your view of the world is quite small, or you would know that there are all different types of men and women. On another note guys who are naturally shy should not have to change who they are. American society in many ways is getting very progressive in this area, and you do see shy men with domineering women. Yet people sometimes jokes about it. Btw the anime references make YOU seem quite childish and immature, time to turnoff the cartoons.


Wow, such a hostile response. You're weak. We will not get along.

But anyway, you're completely wrong. All women seek to be dominated, whether it be physical, sexual, intellectual or by means of judgement by society through their behavior of gender reversal.

You say if things were this way, we would be extinct. Just the opposite. Humans are nowhere near perfect, as you so "accurately" portray. Intelligence was never factored into our being, yet alone social pre-dispositions. And so we struggle, against basic instinct of survival of the fittest, constantly adapting what we feel so deeply into what we think we should be.

I take you, for example. So frustrated with your failure. You're not one to be dominant, simply by intellectual nature. You know it's wrong. But, it's now what you feel.

And so, you lash out. You're unable to understand everything around and inside you, so you're alone. And so, you begin to hate. You value yourself above others, giving condescending remarks about "class" status. How petty.

You're cornered. You don't know what to do. You came here, you saw truth your hateful self didn't want to accept. Put it down, put it down simply and quickly. Your right, and any other is wrong and stupid. I pity you, and the life that awaits you.

So predictable.



I am far from weak. I am also someone that has had a wide view of the world. There are women who are dominant and certainly feminine and sensitive men who are not dominant yet masculine. Your opinions are dumb, and I disagree. Also in certain social classes of society men can act sensitive and artistic and things like that and it is perfectly acceptable. A construction worker acts domineering and agressive simply because he has to in order to survive. A composer may come across as the submissive male type. These weren't condescending remarks. I am assuming you are American as am I and in our society we tend to erase class while most other societies underline it. And I'm not talking about money here I'm talking about classy beahvior by definition. You see 14 year olds wearing tatoos and getting drunk in our society, very low-class behavior. How many people listen to hip-hop as opossed to broadway? Yet the street-wise mentality is glorified. There is no reason to pity me at all, because I actually no how to get women, yet I just have a difficult time with it right now, due to social skills problems I have always had and frankly due to luck. That is what life is. Life is about luck.


No. Life is about circumstance, not luck.

And with such a "wide view of the World" it's funny how you forgot to leave out that part that everyone thinks differently, everyone wants different things, and that different people will sacrifice different things in order to obtain a different ideal from their own.

Theres no such thing as "class." It's a simple invention by simple humans to put their insecurity to rest and give them a reason to act so high and mighty. You're just like those 14 year old hip-hop savvy teens. You think you're so much better, and that you're so right.

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What's that I smell...it's, it's...the insecurity of the weak. Masked with the stench of the self-righteous. Disgusting.


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