I wonder if I'll ever have a relationship..

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03 Oct 2008, 6:26 am

Aspie guys are not the only ones that stay single, there are plenty of NT females that are single too, did you ever think that perhaps those of us that look for those qualities are more likely to have trouble finding people like that ? Especially if they are all sitting on the forums :P

I met my husband online btw.



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03 Oct 2008, 7:16 am

Saffy wrote:
There are plenty of NT females that are single too

Well, that's usually by choice. And it's having a devastating effect on a great percentage of the male population (Aspie or not).

Saffy wrote:
Did you ever think that perhaps those of us that look for those qualities are more likely to have trouble finding people like that?

I guess I've become fairly (or unfairly?) cynical, from what I've observed over the years.



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03 Oct 2008, 9:06 am

Dating for Aspies is not easy, but at least I try (that was difficult enough). Unfortunately last time was not a success, but at least I learned some things about myself and dating in general.

I am confident about getting a relation someday, but before my 30th birthday will be a challenge.



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03 Oct 2008, 2:08 pm

I think that perhaps there may be a lot of over-generalization with the "why can't I find a mate" subject. I think that perhaps the most important challenge that we have to overcome is the anxiety that comes with social interaction, and this isn't really AS specific. There are a lot of "disorders" that contain anxiety as a symptom or component; take post-traumatic stress disorder, for example.

From my own perspective, I've been married twice and "fallen in love" a few times over the years. The last long-term relationship I had lasted 3 years, and it happened when I wasn't even looking for it. It also happened for some wrong reasons (she was unhappily married and controlling and demanding and, self-admittedly, neurotic), so I ended it.

A part of my job at work is to coach new employees so they can improve their performance, which involves looking up phone numbers for callers (411). For some of the more "reserved" employees, I have to point out that it is a psychological game, and that they have to "get outside" their basic personality and talk to these people when they call to get them the information they want, if it exists. Sometimes it's not what you say, it's how you say it. And I've told them that we have NEVER had an employee strangled by their own headset cord because a caller reached through the computer screen and did it.

Sometimes you just have to sit back and say, "So what?" So what if she said she just wants to be friends? So what if she said she wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire? So what if she fooled you and other NT people into thinking she was interested in you? There are more women in the world than men... Put the anxiety in a box and go do something. Get outside yourself... it's not really "fake", it's just a different component of yourself, and somewhere someone will find you basically attractive so you can open the box a little bit and see where it leads. That's what I'm having to do right now, and it's not necessarily a fun or easy process, but neither is hiding behind my emotional wall all the time either. Some women seem to go for "Mr. Mysterious" anyway... so be mysterious. Be aloof. Be silly. That comes naturally anyway to most of us, and tell yourself, "So what?" Don't be so self-absorbed that you are the center of the universe; just be a part of your honest self until you feel comfortable with being your ENTIRE honest self with someone.


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04 Oct 2008, 10:15 pm

Can you tell me if there's going to be a paradigm shift in the next 5 years, where women will actually seek such qualities such as loyalty, honesty, and integrity, rather than false confidence?

...only if they finally get tired of two-timing, dishonest, and generally false people in general...;)
I have a different perspective in that I have a stepdaughter in her 20s, who has picked (well, I am a stepfather...;) some of the worst bad boys around. After seeing all the grief they've given her, her choices have improved...;)

It's just the parent''s curse - all the 'mistakes' you guys are going to make, we've made already. But we can make you believe us...;)

Long story short; you just have to keep trying. Sure you'll occaisionally get rejected, but everybody in the world gets that.



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04 Oct 2008, 11:28 pm

I may still be a teenager but I recently felt the same way, I've only dated 2 girls ( both NT) , one of them didn't accept who I was too well after just a couple days. All the other girls i've tried to ask out may have found me attractive but didn't like my "personality". I just called the other girl (who lives over 600 miles away from me now, we broke up since she moved away and we didn't even date for very long) 2 months ago and we fell in love. She accepts me the way the I am , she appreciates my bizarre mind and everything about me. I never thought i'd find love 2 months ago, but now I feel so happy . I realized... you control your own fate. You may have to wait for love to find you... but be sure to let love know you want to be found. It's never too late.



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05 Oct 2008, 3:59 am

GNRfan wrote:
It's never too late.

It is if you get to your mid-30s, and have never had a girlfriend, because you lived in some redneck hellhole where all the young females were prejudiced towards you, leaving you to become a bitter, cynical, stigmatised basket-case. But you wouldn't know what that's like, so your advice means nothing.



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05 Oct 2008, 4:43 am

Well if you really think that it turned you into an evil prick and your convinced you will never have a lover maybe an online sex search would suffice? Or if you wanna spend the big bucks try some prostitutes?



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05 Oct 2008, 4:56 am

Nope, those things don't have any appeal to me at all. Neither does some later-age relationship.



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05 Oct 2008, 5:13 am

But how will you ever get your sex? =p
Oh now wouldn't ya know, 69 posts haha



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05 Oct 2008, 5:23 am

I'm not interested in sex anymore. It would've been good when I was young, but it's too late now.



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05 Oct 2008, 8:26 am

It's all in your head, one can never be too old for sex, particularly with certain medication lol. However I understand it more than you probably think I do. Usually people who are "asexual" are products of extreme sexual frustration/deprivation, to the point where they just say f**k it, and train their minds to not desire it anymore. If ya try you can get hard again and enjoy it I promise you 8)



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05 Oct 2008, 8:34 am

Synth wrote:
If ya try you can get hard again and enjoy it I promise you

If you're having to try so hard, is that really worth it? Funnily enough, I'm going to be meeting up with someone overseas in a few months' time. But I suspect that it will not be nearly as enjoyable as it is for young, normal people. It's an unusual situation, and I'm mourning the fact it can't be a nice, simple conventional first romance most people get to enjoy.



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05 Oct 2008, 8:41 am

Good luck bro 8)



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05 Oct 2008, 5:42 pm

Whoa whoa whoa wait a minute!

If you want a relationship, then you will if those godamnit girls stop being picky! Alright? Its up to them for being stupid to pick crave guys that can cause them to being emotional, like crying for help. > Rape.


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06 Oct 2008, 12:49 am

Dennis wrote:
I'm 22 years old now and I've never been in any sort of relationship really. In high school it didn't bother me as much(I wasn't very interested in being in a relationship back then), but it's been getting worse as I get older.

The worst part is that a couple months ago I realized something. Most of the times that I have liked girls, they've just been shallow crushes on girls who would probably be "out of my league". There's only one girl who I feel I've ever been truly attracted to, and she's one of my closer friends. I talk to her quite often online, but she lives pretty far away from me and I rarely see her in real life(only 4 times since I met her 5 years ago.) Some of the time I just think of her as a friend, but when I see her IRL I tend to feel attracted to her.

This bothers me a lot. The fact that my chances with her are quite low makes it worse. Will I ever feel attracted to anyone else?


It sounds funny coming from a kid like me, but it's true: you're still young and have time.
Just be patient and don't get too down on yourself. I would advise you to keep an open mind and not be afraid to meet someone else considering that she's far away and you two don't see each other often. Just because you don't have someone right now does not mean you never will.


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