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12 Oct 2008, 10:50 pm

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The question is whether girls are into complex guys like myself, who are well articulated and knowledgable, that might be a bit too much for a foreign gal to handle, abstract ideas and interests in history, psychology, sociology, and law. If anything, I think intelligence would be a hinderance, not an asset. However, there are ways around that


The most important key to success in intercultural dating is the intelligence to have an open and flexible mind to new experiences. From what you've typed, I don't think you'll have any problem whatsoever in this.

Many times, you'll find these new experiences to be entrancing, and you'll wonder why you ever considered doing things any other way. Just a matter of getting to a place where these type of opportunities for interaction can arise.

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I am one of those who is inconviently located in the mid-west range, where foreigners seem more or less a rarity, especially the Asians


Where around in the midwest? Even in the areas near larger midwestern cities, you can usually still find a decent amount of cultures. I remember the surprisingly large amount (surprisingly large for a place like Kansas) of Latin and Asian girls I saw when I briefly went through Wichita, Kansas (biggest city in the state). Was not expecting anything like that, especially around that area.



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13 Oct 2008, 12:33 am

Does it only work this way when the two people are from vastly differing cultures, or do you think it could work this way between USA and European cultures?


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Does it only work this way when the two people are from vastly differing cultures, or do you think it could work this way between USA and European cultures?


I would imagine that it'd be even easier if it were between USA and European. For example, differences between American and British culture are probably somewhat less than say, American and Malaysian or American and Burmese culture.



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13 Oct 2008, 5:31 am

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I would imagine that it'd be even easier if it were between USA and European. For example, differences between American and British culture are probably somewhat less than say, American and Malaysian or American and Burmese culture.


Somewhat. Thats and understatement...



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13 Oct 2008, 12:44 pm

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The question is whether girls are into complex guys like myself, who are well articulated and knowledgable, that might be a bit too much for a foreign gal to handle, abstract ideas and interests in history, psychology, sociology, and law.


Because obviously non-American girls are more ignorant, anti-intellectual, etc than American ones? Because you think all foregin girls have a preference for cavemen unlike more sophisticated American girls?


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13 Oct 2008, 1:28 pm

Three observations:

1. Anecdotal. A cousin married an Arab which was great for her until they moved to Egypt and he reverted to their traditional culture. Two Brothers-in-law married foreigners and brought them to America. Fun, and all of us learned a lot, but that type of marriage is much much much harder work.

2. We were in the AF 15 years and part of it overseas. Yes, biracial children somehow turn out to be the most beautiful childen. We saw a lot of young men marry foreigners. A few ended up with wonderful relationships. That type of marriage is much much much harder work. I met a lot of thoroughly miserable wives. A warning: when asian women can't take it anymore and decide to commit suicide, a high number of them kill their children first so the kids won't have to live with the shame.

3. You guys who are picking out the hair color and skin tone of what you will marry crack me up. What does phenotype have to do with character and expectations? And what will you do when they cut their hair or color their hair or get old and wrinkled?



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14 Oct 2008, 5:57 am

If you aren't multi-lingual leave the foreign girls alone...if you're serious about a girl you can learn her language in a year. Nothing worse than 'dictionary' dates.



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14 Oct 2008, 6:00 am

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If you aren't multi-lingual leave the foreign girls alone...if you're serious about a girl you can learn her language in a year. Nothing worse than 'dictionary' dates.


Unless you have a common second language, like English, in addition to your mother tongue.



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14 Oct 2008, 6:16 am

I don't think you can trust a woman(or anybody) unless you know what they are saying. What if your wife says something like "Ich bein ein Berliner!" in her sleep and you think it means "
Oh Berlin, I miss you dude!" You'd get all jealous all the time.
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14 Oct 2008, 9:52 pm

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The question is whether girls are into complex guys like myself, who are well articulated and knowledgable, that might be a bit too much for a foreign gal to handle, abstract ideas and interests in history, psychology, sociology, and law.


Because obviously non-American girls are more ignorant, anti-intellectual, etc than American ones? Because you think all foregin girls have a preference for cavemen unlike more sophisticated American girls?


Es tut mir leid, mein fehler. You make a good point, I was too quick to use a general "umbrella" term of foreign girls to describe foreign girls. I forget about you European lasses, especially those who naturally speak English, like the British, Irish, Welsh, and other provinces of the United Kingdom. But what I am talking about when I say "foreign girls" are girls from countries who don't natively speak English, like the French, Dutch, German, Italian, Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian, Spanish, Swiss, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Cambodian, Tawainese, Eastern European countries and so on and so forth.

I don't think for a second they prefer cavemen like males, but there is a level of mystique and charm to someone who is foreign to a person who is not familiar with the foreign person. There is also the language barrier, but I also rely on the "foreign factor", the thing that seperates the average joe in America from the charismatic senor from Spain. Come now, wouldn't even you be attracted to some foreign guy from Italy, Spain, or some other region unknown to you?



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14 Oct 2008, 10:38 pm

If you live in a country with no true culture, then it at least won't be morally objective.



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14 Oct 2008, 10:55 pm

I've found the foreign language barrier to really never be that bad. As long as you understand a few basic words of the native language, it's pretty easy to make yourself understood. Maybe you couldn't have an extended discussion on metaphysics, but for the purposes of basic interaction and becoming friends, it's really not too hard.

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If you live in a country with no true culture, then it at least won't be morally objective.


Which country are you referring to? America is by and large a melting pot of cultures, but not everywhere. What's objectionable in a large city on the east or west coast is not the same thing as what's objectionable in a small town somewhere in the Bible Belt.

Really, the only people who would object to inter-cultural or inter-racial dating these days are extremely close-minded people, most of whom are from totally homogenous areas to begin with, so they don't know any different.



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15 Oct 2008, 6:45 am

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You make a good point, I was too quick to use a general "umbrella" term of foreign girls to describe foreign girls. I forget about you European lasses, especially those who naturally speak English, like the British, Irish, Welsh, and other provinces of the United Kingdom. But what I am talking about when I say "foreign girls" are girls from countries who don't natively speak English, like the French, Dutch, German, Italian, Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian, Spanish, Swiss...


I'm not a lass, and I'm not European. Some people achieve competency in a second language (and it's far more common in the Netherlands and in Switzerland than in the US - places where people often have better spelling and grammar in English than many native speakers).

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there is a level of mystique and charm to someone who is foreign to a person who is not familiar with the foreign person. There is also the language barrier, but I also rely on the "foreign factor", the thing that seperates the average joe in America from the charismatic senor from Spain.


That depends on the nature of the 'foreignness.' A foreigner from Africa, for example, is not going to get the same traction as a Spaniard.

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Come now, wouldn't even you be attracted to some foreign guy from Italy, Spain, or some other region unknown to you?


I'm not gay. I have no particular preference for girls from countries that are 'exotic' to me.


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15 Oct 2008, 7:15 am

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If you live in a country with no true culture, then it at least won't be morally objective.
I find this a singularly bizzare statement. Does it have any meaning at all? It's the semantic equal of "colorless green ideas etc."



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15 Oct 2008, 9:33 am

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You make a good point, I was too quick to use a general "umbrella" term of foreign girls to describe foreign girls. I forget about you European lasses, especially those who naturally speak English, like the British, Irish, Welsh, and other provinces of the United Kingdom. But what I am talking about when I say "foreign girls" are girls from countries who don't natively speak English, like the French, Dutch, German, Italian, Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian, Spanish, Swiss...


I'm not a lass, and I'm not European. Some people achieve competency in a second language (and it's far more common in the Netherlands and in Switzerland than in the US - places where people often have better spelling and grammar in English than many native speakers).

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there is a level of mystique and charm to someone who is foreign to a person who is not familiar with the foreign person. There is also the language barrier, but I also rely on the "foreign factor", the thing that seperates the average joe in America from the charismatic senor from Spain.


That depends on the nature of the 'foreignness.' A foreigner from Africa, for example, is not going to get the same traction as a Spaniard.

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Come now, wouldn't even you be attracted to some foreign guy from Italy, Spain, or some other region unknown to you?


I'm not gay. I have no particular preference for girls from countries that are 'exotic' to me.


My apologies, I honestly thought you were a girl. I unfortunately didn't take the courtesy of reading your profile on here. But by your first answer, and your defensive stance when talking about "foreign girls" I actually thought you were a girl. Not very often do I see a guy so dedicated to the defense of women everywhere :P



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15 Oct 2008, 12:48 pm

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My apologies, I honestly thought you were a girl. I unfortunately didn't take the courtesy of reading your profile on here. But by your first answer, and your defensive stance when talking about "foreign girls" I actually thought you were a girl. Not very often do I see a guy so dedicated to the defense of women everywhere :P


No problem, to be honest it was more a defence of foreigners in general than of girls only, but since your post was about girls, it went on from there.


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