im tired of girls not liking me

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29 Nov 2008, 3:39 pm

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Do any other men ever get the feeling that women are... bullying them? To see a beautiful lady in front of me and not be allowed to be affectionate with her... it creates this pain. It's similar to the pain of being choked.

As a single man I can't say I feel that way at all, I'm just frustrated if anything, and if I truly believed I would have happy relationships ahead of me I wouldn't even be frustrated.



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29 Nov 2008, 3:45 pm

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So call a waaaaambulance.


Good God, what a jerk.



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29 Nov 2008, 3:46 pm

MikeH106 wrote:
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So call a waaaaambulance.

Good God, what a jerk.

God had nothing to do with it.


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29 Nov 2008, 3:51 pm

It was just an expression, you sadist.



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29 Nov 2008, 3:56 pm

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It was just an expression, you sadist.

Calm down, kid. I derive no sexual satisfaction from the pain of others.


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29 Nov 2008, 4:04 pm

I think I just retched the loudest I ever have in probably six months.

Fnord, because of people like you, there's a chance I'm going to set myself on fire after my 26th birthday. If you don't believe me, check the Haven forum. Check dictionary.com for the definitions of sadism and stop being desperate to win arguments. As for your calling me 'kid,' I still look like I'm 16, possibly because I failed to thrive.

Take things like this into consideration before your 'waaaambulance' insults.



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29 Nov 2008, 4:13 pm

MikeH106 wrote:
I think I just retched the loudest I ever have in probably six months.

Fnord, because of people like you, there's a chance I'm going to set myself on fire after my 26th birthday. If you don't believe me, check the Haven forum. Check dictionary.com for the definitions of sadism and stop being desperate to win arguments. As for your calling me 'kid,' I still look like I'm 16, possibly because I failed to thrive.

Take things like this into consideration before your 'waaaambulance' insults.

Guilt trips don't work on me. If you kill yourself, it will be your own fault and no one else's - it will by by your choice, your will, and your action. You alone are accountable for what you freely choose to do. The precedent was set just this last week. Don't even try to use me as a scapegoat for your troubles.

The fact that I win arguments does not mean that I am desparate, it means that I know what I'm talking about and can back up what I say.

What you took as an insult is an illustration of the fact that I am not responsible for any other person's emotional state. We are each responsible for only our own emotions, and no one else can make us feel a certain way without our cooperation.


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29 Nov 2008, 4:22 pm

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Guilt trips don't work on me. If you kill yourself, it will be your own fault and no one else's - it will by by your choice, your will, and your action. You alone are accountable for what you freely choose to do.


This is going to be the last thing I say to you. Almost nothing is entirely one person's fault. I can't believe you're 51 and you haven't learned that yet.

Since Fnord made me throw up, I think I'm going to take a break from the WrongPlanet forums. I'll very likely return -- maybe soon, maybe not. I've given you plenty of my kind words and I don't need to put up with this garbage.

Until then, be nice and have fun.



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29 Nov 2008, 4:28 pm

Amazing!

It seems that I have acquired the power to induce vomitting in others without being pysically present.

Mike, when you come back to this thread (and we both know that you will), please have a look at my blog. Especially the article "You Could Be Emo If" (<-- Link). Let me know if there is something you would like me to add.

I'll even credit it to you.


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29 Nov 2008, 4:30 pm

MikeH106 wrote:
The insensitive order to "stop whining" locks people into the torment of their own private suffering, and that is a very dangerous thing.

Do any other men ever get the feeling that women are... bullying them? To see a beautiful lady in front of me and not be allowed to be affectionate with her... it creates this pain. It's similar to the pain of being choked.


First, you don't need to whine and act selfishly to let your 'torment' be known. Also, you can try other tactics to stop the suffering, whatever it is.

Secondly, to be blunt, your other statement really makes my skin crawl. It helps confirm what I've felt around quite a few 'desperate' guys, and it left me feeling sick. It was as if I could feel they felt I was unfair, cruel, for not giving them the pleasure they wanted. In one instance, it left me so emotional I felt nauseous.

And why is it only visually 'beautiful' women? This further indicates to me how women are often mere objects to many, if not most, men.

We are individuals just like you, with our own feelings, needs, desires, and lives. We're not here to please you, and many of us are just built with obvious signals. Some women bring those signals out, as do some men. But I would not feel hurt by every prospective attractive man who would turn me on if he said 'no'. Sexual frustration can be pretty miserable, but when you start to think other people are hurting you with their 'goods,' it's time to take a step back and see that they're not goods, they're human.



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29 Nov 2008, 4:30 pm

oh man i wouldnt leave, who cares what someone online thinks? maybe there normal and dont have aspergers anymore or learned how to become nt. i know one thing my aspergers is deadly1! i cant make freinds, i cant hold a job down or any of that jazz. i kindof feel like im trapped in a water door only i cant get out because its made out of thick bullet proof glass. shure i guess i could always try to make myself better by trail and error but im no clown. so it really isnt necessary for me to make a fool of myself


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29 Nov 2008, 4:39 pm

Richard,

If you live near Los angeles / San Diego, I could forward you the name of some hiring agencies that I've used.

What helped me, amazingly enough, were acting lessons! I learned how to act like an NT person (well ... close enough ... I'm still 'wierd' to most people ... and a total jerk to others). It's useful to be able to ask myself "How would Gary Bussey handle this?" when I'm in a confrontational relationship.

:wink:


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29 Nov 2008, 4:42 pm

fnord i live in the next state over. arizona, also i'd imagine i would make a great actor provided there wasnt a script, :wink:


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29 Nov 2008, 5:00 pm

Improv is an essential acting technique for personal relationships.

Just ask youself "What would ________ do?" and insert your favorite actor or character ... although I'd avoid anime tropes :wink:


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29 Nov 2008, 7:19 pm

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And why is it only visually 'beautiful' women?

Because when it comes to sexual attraction, it's normal for men to be visually-oriented. Get over it.



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29 Nov 2008, 7:39 pm

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And why is it only visually 'beautiful' women?

Because when it comes to sexual attraction, it's normal for men to be visually-oriented. Get over it.


Normal doesn't make it ideal, or even acceptable in some instances when it creates certain behaviours. And when I see men talking about 'beautiful' women like that, with a blatant show of object lust rather than giving a thought to who she is, I will not simply 'get over it'. It's very creepy to think guys are eyeing up women like that, and I will most definitely speak out about it.

Women are not objects, they're not here to torture you with their looks if we're beautiful. We do not exist to please you, we're here to survive, procreate and carry on the species in whatever way we're designed to do so.

Get over it. :)