Does anyone else just not see the point in marriage?

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04 Dec 2008, 4:21 am

I would eventually get married and start a family, but I don't think it should be a prerequisite for sex.


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04 Dec 2008, 3:21 pm

When I was little I said to myself that I'd never even attempt to ride a bike. I eventually did. When I was a older I said that I'd never get married. I eventually did and did and did and did. Don't knock it until you've tried it. I've been married four times so far and am actually getting pretty good at it. Sometimes we just have to practice something a little longer than 'regular' people.



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04 Dec 2008, 10:21 pm

I think marriage happens a lot of times when it shouldn't, but if two people legitimately love each other than marriage works.


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18 Dec 2008, 12:28 pm

For years I opposed it but, I now, I would if I was to have children. Children need stability and with out the legal bond of marrige, either parent is at liberty to up and leave because, they've made no committment.

There was days gone by when women who became pregnant out of wed-lock were sectioned under the mental health act. There is a lock up ward 10 miles from where I live. There are women there who are now in their 80's and, have been there since they were teenagers for doing exactly that.

Today it's the done thing to just pair up and push out babies and, if I was an MP there would be some serious changes in society.



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18 Dec 2008, 12:41 pm

Me get married? Yeah right.



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18 Dec 2008, 12:42 pm

DeLoreanDude wrote:
I think its stupid, it seems to me that - aside from religious beliefs - there is no point.

There is nothing to gain, and in fact it seems that marriage only makes things worse in a relationship usually.

It seems the only people who really benefit are the sellers of flowers etc. who make billions in profit each year.

It seems like its just a pointless artificial stage in a relationship, the only purpose of which is to make money for the marriage industry.

Whats your view? If you disagree, then state why.


Why hello there little kid, where do you think all the babies come from? =)
should we all just go to the hookers and hope they would want to stay pregnant and give birth to babies? And if we dont want mandkind to case to exsist, humanity has to give birth to more babies, or equal to the number of deaths per year, in ourder to have a stable growth.
And then you might say that people can just have babies without marriage, well babies need love and care, if there is no marriage, there is no bond to keep the family together.

People marry each other out of alot of reasons, some do it, because they want to be closer to the one they love, if you cant comprehend to this it's understandable, as you're only 14 years old. Some do it cause they are forced, others to lead their families name further into the next generation, others who dont want to be lonly.
Just because you cant understand it, dosnt mean it has to be the universel law of the world.
Try to think abit more logicaly, and you might come to a understanding of why



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18 Dec 2008, 12:46 pm

Tias wrote:
DeLoreanDude wrote:
I think its stupid, it seems to me that - aside from religious beliefs - there is no point.

There is nothing to gain, and in fact it seems that marriage only makes things worse in a relationship usually.

It seems the only people who really benefit are the sellers of flowers etc. who make billions in profit each year.

It seems like its just a pointless artificial stage in a relationship, the only purpose of which is to make money for the marriage industry.

Whats your view? If you disagree, then state why.


Why hello there little kid, where do you think all the babies come from? =)
should we all just go to the hookers and hope they would want to stay pregnant and give birth to babies? And if we dont want mandkind to case to exsist, humanity has to give birth to more babies, or equal to the number of deaths per year, in ourder to have a stable growth.
And then you might say that people can just have babies without marriage, well babies need love and care, if there is no marriage, there is no bond to keep the family together.

People marry each other out of alot of reasons, some do it, because they want to be closer to the one they love, if you cant comprehend to this it's understandable, as you're only 14 years old. Some do it cause they are forced, others to lead their families name further into the next generation, others who dont want to be lonly.
Just because you cant understand it, dosnt mean it has to be the universel law of the world.
Try to think abit more logicaly, and you might come to a understanding of why


The point is that people can still have a relationship and have children if they dont sign a contract... Or is all this "love is so amazing" stuff complete BS, which it is if couples need a contract to keep them together



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18 Dec 2008, 12:49 pm

If you see marriage as only a contract, then you will never see the value that others place on it. Time has a way of showing us how narrowly we've seen over time...


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18 Dec 2008, 12:55 pm

makuranososhi wrote:
If you see marriage as only a contract, then you will never see the value that others place on it. Time has a way of showing us how narrowly we've seen over time...


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Meh, you could be right.



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18 Dec 2008, 1:03 pm

I dont agree with marriage personally and politically but I understand completely that others do like it and why they want it.

If I wanted a comitment with someone I would want it with them and not involve it with the state or other people and I would not need a piece of paper for that. I find it quite rude that society assumes how much I care for someone based on a piece of paper and decrees what share of their property I am entitiled too from having a piece of paper. People are not property, I think it devalues love and personal expression. It reminds me too much of a business contract or house deeds. I see it a way way of controlling people and pushing unrealistic social norms onto people.

But I do understand the reasons people like it and I am very pleased when people find happiness this way.



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18 Dec 2008, 1:08 pm

DeLoreanDude wrote:
makuranososhi wrote:
If you see marriage as only a contract, then you will never see the value that others place on it. Time has a way of showing us how narrowly we've seen over time...


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Meh, you could be right.


Marriage is not a contract, if it is then friendship is also a contract and you, are just the product of contract.


And some people marry, because they have feelings for the other and want to be more then "just" a couple. and also what he said



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18 Dec 2008, 1:15 pm

Tias wrote:
DeLoreanDude wrote:
makuranososhi wrote:
If you see marriage as only a contract, then you will never see the value that others place on it. Time has a way of showing us how narrowly we've seen over time...


M.


Meh, you could be right.


Marriage is not a contract, if it is then friendship is also a contract and you, are just the product of contract.


And some people marry, because they have feelings for the other and want to be more then "just" a couple. and also what he said


No, you dont need to sign a contract to make friends with someone, you LITERALLY have to sign a contract to get married.



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18 Dec 2008, 1:25 pm

Cause when you are married you have other advantages, and it's easier for when having a child and other things.
Well now i am not married myself nor close to or anything, so i can only talk from my own experience now.



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18 Dec 2008, 1:42 pm

I can't relate so I can't really speak for myself.

It must have a point or people wouldn't see it as significant especially in raising families. I can only say that when I saw my aunt and uncle get married, they really looked like they felt something for eachother. As both of them were saying their vows, they got teary eyed.

I think there might be more than a contract going on...like it's some kind of closure. May not be true for everyone but ceremonies always mean something to people.


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18 Dec 2008, 4:46 pm

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I think there might be more than a contract going on...like it's some kind of closure. May not be true for everyone but ceremonies always mean something to people.

For me a lot of it has to do with the fact that he is legally bound to me and can't just leave one day when we get in an argument. Well, he can, but not without the pain of a divorce.

When I was in other relationships I always felt like I was walking on thin ice since they could leave at any moment. Most breakups I went through were sudden and unexpected (AS probably doesn't help that).

I believe the ceremony is just for the sake of proclaiming to all friends and family that you intend to spend the rest of your lives together.


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18 Dec 2008, 4:55 pm

While I don't think it should be a prerequisite for sex (despite me being a Christian), I would definitely get married.


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