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But it would be the same thing.

What I'm saying is, there's no "excuse" to generalize people based upon their gender, race, sexuality, and all that other stuff.

It reeks of it now and no it would not let off steam from guys doing it here anyway. Ignorance and group mentality is actually what encourages this behavior.

Besides we already got a rant sticky, why exclusively to dog women?

Yes you're right, and it's totally against my morals too. Don't know what I was thinking - that's what happens when you go so far as to give up your own sense of right and wrong in order to compromise.

Sorry sunshower, didn't mean to come off so hard, I know you're only trying to make it a peaceful place but peace can only be sought by those who need to know the difference between ignorance and knoweledge.

For me, it hasn't been easy. As an aspie, I try not to blame my condition but this has made it hard for me to openly communicate with guys b/c I feel akward.

Now last time I made a thread about that, it was either you're ugly or they already have a girlfriend. So this crap about girls having it easy....maybe it's true for most of you but that hasn't been the case for me personally. I don't think I can identify with many of these stereotypes that have been "theoretically" put on women. I also don't think it's very fair not to take into account females and their own experiences. It seems to go metaphorically through one ear and out the other with some of the members here.

Maybe it's just me I don't know....but I really don't think it's fair for me to have to feel alone and then conform into this oddball construct. I've been too polite about this when I first joined WP and it did nothing....so I'm not going to circumvent around well guys have had it bad in relationships. I have no doubt that it's painful for guys as well as hard given the condition and circumstances that come hand in hand to those who take all this social crap for granted. I've wanted to rant many times myself about guys and neurotypicals. But I realize after looking at these topics such as women demonized into b*****s, prudes, demons, and wanting bad boys......it really has educated me in several ways about why I shouldn't do the same thing.

I can understand and have learned from a few good aspie guys here about this alpha thing in more detail than the general crap about women having it easy. I can see this being difficult. There are issues being female and an aspie myself I would love to bring forth to this forum on relationships, but I fear sometimes that I'll just get the same crap I did from my last post. So why bother if this place is going to exclusively be all about guys?

Meanwhile, I don't think I've seen many females bring up any of their own that're similar to mine. Maybe I'm of the minority of the minority here on WP...who knows but I just don't think having a thread dissing women for one's own frustrations is really that healthy or helpful. So far, it's as if some of the guys here already "KNOW" women so I don't understand why one would even ask for feedback or help.

Anyway just my thoughts. If my words come off blunt or rude, I apologize since this is also a bit of a rant. I don't believe I've ever made threads same men are this or men or that and I've had some terrible issues with some of the guys in my life.

MissConstrue- I apologize if my comments offended you; they certainly weren’t directed at you. It is just the only thing I have to judge women by are my own personal experiences, which I can assure you have not been good. It is one thing just to say no, but it is totally different to say no while openly mocking and laughing at me, and calling me names like freak and tard. Some have shown interest until they found out about my AS, and then just started to ignore me. I honestly prefer that treatment then to be laughed at and called names. I also said in a few other threads I have trouble controlling my anger sometimes. I now realize that is no excuse, and generalizing a group of people based on my own experiences is wrong. Once again, I apoligize and they weren’t directed at you.

Sunshower- I appreciate the advice you gave me in the other thread, but it seems I always have trouble putting advice into my own practical use. I have come to the conclusion that my AS isn’t nearly as high functioning as most of the posters on this board. Despite having average intelligence, I would estimate my social skills to be on par with the average middle-schooler, even though I turn 23 later this year. Regardless, I still appreciate the advice.

I should probably apologise somewhat....

As some of the male posts on this thread show, rampant misogyny is not part and parcel of male AS. To receive hostile, mocking or just plain disrepectful treatment isn't fair, or right but it's obvious now some of the generalisations I got a bit soapbox about are heat of the moment stuff.

Shame I don't have any nuggets of wisdom to add about why some NT women do this stuff, they must be the same types of ones who bully and ostracise females with AS.

Yay for this thread!

Seriously I stopped posting on hear a while ago because I thought the hole thing was being overwhelmed by bitternes and despair. I know this thread is more about how women are depicted in this forum but I'd say the two problems are pretty cloesly linked.

And yes there is nothing wrong with a good rant now and then, and I'd imagine that everyone here has a little bitternes inside them concerning relationships. And maybe this is a little easier for me than others on here as I have had a few succeses with women to mix in with the hundreds of failures and crushing disapointments.

But I really think this forum would be much better if people tried to have a generally positive attitude, to focus on what does work rather than on what doesn't. Sunshowers thread is a pretty good example, positive advice in a friednly understanding way.

Also I know for a fact that when women start talking about what's attractive in a guy, if they start talking about things that you don't think ring true for yourself it can kinda hurt sometimes. Like when women start talking about confidence, at a time when I'm not feeling all that confident, then part of you're brain starts telling you "well you're screwed, get used to a life of being on you're own". But the thing to do isn't become despondent and start forming a really negative, defensive attitude towards women. The thing to do is to try and remember times when you have been confident, times when you have attracted women. And if there were no such times try to start thinking about what you can do to make that happen, try asking the advice of the women that posted whatever (most of the girls on here seem pretty friendly really).

Anyway to summarise, be happy, confident, positive, good things will happen if not now then later. Be moddy, despondant, bitter and it very quickly turns into a self-fufiling prothecy.

p.s I had to to format my computer recently and lost my automatic spell checker thingy, so apologies for the know doubt numerous spelling mistakes in this.

I have to say that I am impressed with some of the responses that have been posted in this thread. I see guys apologizing, and I wasn't expecting that. But mostly, I like oli234's suggestion about asking us women for advice. I am certainly open to questions. Not that I am an expert, but sometimes I can see potential solutions inherent in the so-called problem.

agreed. asking the women for advice and solutions definitely sounds like a better idea, thankyou again to oli234.