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10 Apr 2009, 2:08 pm

no not really i am 5 feet 8



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10 Apr 2009, 2:50 pm

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I am a short person will women not date me because i am short?


Have you considered Human Growth Hormone treatment?


it's expensive and totally useless and dangerous.



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10 Apr 2009, 3:15 pm

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Most women say height doesn't matter, so I think you're safe.

I wouldn't date a guy who's shorter than me, but that's because I'm really self-conscious about my height.


Erm... aren't you giving an example of what the OP is saying? I'm not blaming you, I would feel uncomfortable dating someone taller, and I have a friend that the only reason he doesn't ask out a certain girl he really likes, even though he thinks she'd say yes, is that she's taller. In any case, I've learned that when it comes to people of either sex, what they say they want has little bearing on what they will respond to in practice - especially what they say when sober or in response to a direct question (asking them directly when they're sober is the best way of getting an answer not worth listening to in most cases - but I always listen to spontaneous drunken confessions).


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10 Apr 2009, 3:45 pm

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short guys tend to have extreme inferiority complexes


and these complexes are caused by...... ?

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and be really aggressive and overbearing


I was used to be called the peaceful at school since I never engage into fights and was the calmest student at class.

The napoleon complex was scientifically debunked ages ago:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/th ... 42338.html

I bet it's all in your head , when you see a tall bossy person => he's confident, and when you see a short bossy person => he has complex.

Was your shorter bf really more aggressive than your current taller one?

To answer your question, yes, my old boyfriend was much more aggressive, controlling, and violent, he was a ticking time bomb who was emotionally and verbally abusive, which was the reason I dumped him. My current boyfriend is very placid and laid back; he doesn't constantly demand to know where I am going to be like the old one did, and he has yet to leave me a weepy voicemail where he cries about how horrible it is that he's short and how he hates himself for it.
It wasn't just him either. Short men in my life seemed to have some axe to grind against me, for no particular reason, such as a former boss, several high school teachers, and various classmates who bullied me with taunts about my lack of femininity owing to my height, even though I didn't insult their height. I understand there is frustration involved in not fitting into the typical "masculine" mold, especially in a society that demands such rigidity from gender, but that doesn't mean I'm going to bend over backwards to accommodate men who treat me like s**t because they are under 180 cm and I'm not.

However, short, confident, down to earth guys can be sexy. I've had a monstrous crush on Joey Jordison since I was 13, and he's 5'2-5'4. But he seems comfortable in his own skin, more so than his taller bandmates, so I immediately felt a connection and special affection with him. :wink:



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10 Apr 2009, 3:50 pm

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i was talking about height i am 5 foot 8.


Nah, that ain't short. I'm not much taller than you and I'm about average height (5' 10''). :D


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11 Apr 2009, 6:30 am

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My current boyfriend is very placid and laid back; he doesn't constantly demand to know where I am going to be like the old one did, and he has yet to leave me a weepy voicemail where he cries about how horrible it is that he's short and how he hates himself for it.


Is this he refers to your ex or to your current bf, either way it's unbelievable that any guy would leave a voicemail to her girlfriend where he cries about his height....maybe it's not as literally as you're picturing?

'Unbelievable' here doesn't mean amazing but it means that I can hardly believe you, that story is very unrealistic.



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11 Apr 2009, 6:37 am

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*laugh* Oh, LPP... I wish it were that it was just you. We're apparently antithetical, existing in different realities, contrasting modalities.

I've experienced the effect of my size when teaching, being aware of how easily I can intimidate others. I've never said that I am unaware of my height; rather, I am constantly aware of it. What I said is that insecurity breeds hostility, and that there have been numerous occasions where the only evident cause for the confrontation was that the other individual had something to prove in front of a crowd. You might wish to check exactly what was said before leaping to response.


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I always confronted you in every thread, does that mean that I am picking you on because you're tall and I want to prove something in front of the WP members? Probably this what you were thinking ,no? When shorter guys (which are the majority of guys since you're very tall) confront you in front of a crowd, do they tell you that they are targeting you because they need to prove something or because you're tall?


In fact, I didn't know your height till you mentioned it in thread.



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11 Apr 2009, 10:20 am

LePetitPrince wrote:
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My current boyfriend is very placid and laid back; he doesn't constantly demand to know where I am going to be like the old one did, and he has yet to leave me a weepy voicemail where he cries about how horrible it is that he's short and how he hates himself for it.


Is this he refers to your ex or to your current bf, either way it's unbelievable that any guy would leave a voicemail to her girlfriend where he cries about his height....maybe it's not as literally as you're picturing?

'Unbelievable' here doesn't mean amazing but it means that I can hardly believe you, that story is very unrealistic.

It's real enough. I'm not going to bother posting the things he said, since I don't feel compelled to prove myself, but rest assured, the height insecurity of my ex boyfriend did manifest itself in that way, and it was extremely obnoxious to deal with. We also couldn't go out on dates much, because he was too embarrassed to be seen with me in public, fearing that he'd be mistaken for my little brother.
So in my personal experience, I have to say, I only desire guys with self confidence. Being tall and having a healthy ego aren't mutually exclusive of course, but after that ugly experience, I've learned the warning signs.
Also, attacking my integrity by accusing me of lying or embellishing details is extremely rude.



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11 Apr 2009, 11:01 am

I'd be wary of the Napoleon complex. There may be a correlation between being a short guy and being aggressively insecure, but given all the short guys I know who aren't aggressive I'm sure it's pretty weak. It turns into some prejudice like if a tall guy is aggressive, he means it, if a short guy is aggressive, it's just that Napoleon complex again.



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11 Apr 2009, 11:05 am

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My current boyfriend is very placid and laid back; he doesn't constantly demand to know where I am going to be like the old one did, and he has yet to leave me a weepy voicemail where he cries about how horrible it is that he's short and how he hates himself for it.


Is this he refers to your ex or to your current bf, either way it's unbelievable that any guy would leave a voicemail to her girlfriend where he cries about his height....maybe it's not as literally as you're picturing?

'Unbelievable' here doesn't mean amazing but it means that I can hardly believe you, that story is very unrealistic.

It's real enough. I'm not going to bother posting the things he said, since I don't feel compelled to prove myself, but rest assured, the height insecurity of my ex boyfriend did manifest itself in that way, and it was extremely obnoxious to deal with. We also couldn't go out on dates much, because he was too embarrassed to be seen with me in public, fearing that he'd be mistaken for my little brother.
So in my personal experience, I have to say, I only desire guys with self confidence. Being tall and having a healthy ego aren't mutually exclusive of course, but after that ugly experience, I've learned the warning signs.
Also, attacking my integrity by accusing me of lying or embellishing details is extremely rude.


I didn't attack you or accused you, I just stated my opinion and my opinion says that I don't 100% believe your story ;). Deal with it.



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11 Apr 2009, 11:11 am

Anyway, there may be a correlation between height and attractiveness over the mean but I wouldn't say it's very strong either. I know plenty of shorter men who do get dates and plenty of men approaching, at or taller than my height (6'1") who don't seem to. Including me, I mean, I've been snubbed a few times for shorter men, including by one girl who only ever went out with men who are shorter than her.



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11 Apr 2009, 11:14 am

And 5'8" isn't that short.



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11 Apr 2009, 11:40 am

LePetitPrince wrote:
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*laugh* Oh, LPP... I wish it were that it was just you. We're apparently antithetical, existing in different realities, contrasting modalities.

I've experienced the effect of my size when teaching, being aware of how easily I can intimidate others. I've never said that I am unaware of my height; rather, I am constantly aware of it. What I said is that insecurity breeds hostility, and that there have been numerous occasions where the only evident cause for the confrontation was that the other individual had something to prove in front of a crowd. You might wish to check exactly what was said before leaping to response.


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I always confronted you in every thread, does that mean that I am picking you on because you're tall and I want to prove something in front of the WP members? Probably this what you were thinking ,no? When shorter guys (which are the majority of guys since you're very tall) confront you in front of a crowd, do they tell you that they are targeting you because they need to prove something or because you're tall?


In fact, I didn't know your height till you mentioned it in thread.


No - we're in a virtual environment, our physical forms have no bearing here - I referred to my past experience only in intimidation. I don't think you've ever picked on me, LPP - we banter, we disagree. And I've taken care, each time, to specify insecurity (NOT height) as a cause for hostility. And that being said, I've been unable to find any reason save what they had to prove by fighting someone twice their size - I'm willing to admit that I could well be wrong, and would welcome the insight that would come with it... but that doesn't change the fact that the insecurity drives a need to prove oneself in most cases.


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11 Apr 2009, 2:29 pm

Short People, you have to pick them up, just to say "hello"!

Don't you guys know the song from 1977? Video here on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NvgLkuEtkA

This is the author in the video, explaining the song as he sings.



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11 Apr 2009, 4:14 pm

I should tell you about dream that I had about living with some aliens on their planet. They come to collect me in their spaceship. The spaceship was about the size of a large suitcase, so they had to shrink me down to their size, I may have had the dream as a result of watching the Simpsons where Lisa got shrunk by a race of miniature humans. The aliens gave me the option of choosing whether I am shrunk down to their average size or a 6ft tall equivalent. I really want to be the same size as the average alien as I had already everything in common with me already; however, I only choose the 6ft tall equivalent because it may give me a small advantage with their women.



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13 Apr 2009, 1:30 pm

My younger brother is near your height, about 5'7". He has a very beautiful wife who is also 1/2 cherokee. She is about ~5'5"...

I have yet to meet a woman that is taller than me. I once met a gal who was 6'4"...


I also find that my size and height intimidate people as well.

It is like that short people make up their lack of height by their more aggressive or outgoing personality. I worked with a number of short guys, (5'1" to 5'5") and most of them had a noticable personality.... like a pomeranian dog... although small, there is a lot of dog in that little body of theirs...