Dating advice please.

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Well, I don't know so much about the actual technicalities of dating, just more about socializing and making friends (which can also lead to relationships), but I'm really glad to see you're having another go at it and not giving up.

I will be really and truly happy when you find someone Ken, I hope that time comes very soon.

I don't really understand the whole "friend zone" concept. To me, when you make friends with another guy, either straight away you know you're just going to be friends and that's it, or you know there might be potential there.

By making friends then either you're just friends (as in the first instance) or you develop that potential, and end up in a relationship. OR that potential doesn't develop and you end up friends - a.k.a. as you get to know each other better, one of you realizes that you're not that well matched as a relationship.

I think "friend-zoning" doesn't happen after you make friends, generally the girl was not interested romantically from the start - but she liked you as a friend (just not romantically attracted).

"I don't have any suggestions other than not to bother with PUA tactics because it doesn't work anyway"

They do work, I've seen it with my own eyes. I know women can't admit they work. Luckily all the men on here are too sharp to take a misguided, self deluding woman's advice.

Wow, name-calling someone you don't even know just because her view happens to be different from yours? Mature and classy. You must be a catch.

from what Ive heard, 'friend zone' means when a woman gets bored of a man not showing any 'romantic interest' and 'gives up' on him. placing him in a friend/brother category to ease her emotional discomfort.

I did not understand friend zone before or believe in it but someone said that ^ to me and I thought, "ooh, I do that all the time" lol.

here is a videojug on how to escape the 'friendzone'
http://www.videojug.com/film/frienditis ... d-material

As opposed to a man who thinks too highly of himself?

That's just another "guru" video... in fact, if the guy in there had a little more hair, I would have thought that Tom rehashed his video...

I'm sorry biscuitpaws. I felt bad all day for the way i said that. i still think some PUAs are good though. I used to try and do it, now I just be myself.

Thanks, Tom ^_^

Well, whatever gives you confidence and works for you, by all means go for it.

I had to look up PUA. It seems I've been out of the dating world for a while

While the terms change, the reality doesn't. People are looking to find and be with someone they mesh with. Someone who "gets" you, and someone that you "get." It's this amazing feeling to understand someone completely so that you know exactly what he's thinking when someone makes point A in a general conversation. THAT is what we're all looking for.

The dance of meeting up can be fun, done well or even done poorly (the later making good stories and laughs later on). It's kind of a game. But there is good reason I married a friend of my sister's and not one of the men I dated after meeting in bars and playing the game. My sister has since married a friend of our other sister's. See how it goes? Long run, the game may be fun and exciting and a huge rush for a few dates, but you've never built the foundation, and there is nothing to go forward with.

So, what do you want? To play the game and have a heady rush for a few dates, or to find someone you can be with? Really BE with?

There are no guide books teaching you the later, because it would be downright boring. Live your life, meet people in natural settings, let them get to know you - and you them. Fate runs it's course. Yeah, nothing to sell there. No big rush, no golden key. In contrast, one of my friends excels at the game and has been married - and now divorced - twice.

So, what do you want?

Well, there could be some sites that could work. I have not been on many datingsites outside of Sweden, mostly because dating someone on the other side of the planet is... well, complicated.

At least MSN is a nice place to talk to people on, dont you think?

I agree with the person that said if you like someone, you will over look the little annoyinaces and if you are not interested in someone, those little things will be the reason they don't want to be with you.

If anyone would like to look at my OK cupid profile and see how I can liven it up, PM me and I'll send you a link.

Yes, that is true and don't assume too much so you won't be disappointed.

@Chelsie: This thread is 8 years old

Put on latex or she taking all yo paychecks.