aside from sperm, what good are men?

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We're not conservative lol

I didn't say all the guys here are conservative--but the conservative contingent on this forum is very vocal and vitriolic, especially towards liberals and feminists.

Oh. Well don't pay any attention to those dorks lol

that's a good question. technically speaking, not even sperm is necessary for reproduction with today's technology anyway (besides, if you ask me, it might even be a good thing if humans stopped reproducing altogether, at least for a while). i don't see how that's relevant to your situation though. i'll explain why:

for all i care, men could be sentenced to extinction by natural death. "new law: no new male babies allowed". i'm fine with that. or even, "new law: all men shall be subjected to mandatory sex change". i'm fine with that too. millions of people out there wouldn't be, though. why is it so, beats me. men are just totally and completely uninteresting. to me

it's hard to fathom that my view isn't shared by the entirety of the human population as well, but the reality is beyond obvious anyway. most women are attracted to men, just as much as most men are attracted to women. there is no logical reasoning for it and there doesn't need to be. it's just fact. i do not comprehend how come anyone can be attracted to a man, but it just doesn't matter that i don't comprehend it. it's not up to me. and even if i don't find men interesting or particularly useful in any way, all the better for me if women will generally disagree . because... i happen to be male. bottom line is it doesn't matter if it makes me feel uninteresting, because there are people (namely, women) out there who i'd find interesting and who would find me interesting as well

now if someone would insist in making me feel uncomfortable for the same reasons why they were attracted to me in the first place, that's on them. i am not responsible for such disappointment that they may feel about me, and i have no obligation to keep up with conflicting expectations. if an initial expression of attraction for me implies the imposition of increasing expectations not founded on anything i have shown or expressed, then i'm out. it's a stupid game i refuse to play, nothing to do with me being male. it's just self-preservation against [knowingly or unknowingly] inconsiderate individuals

my sex/gender/whatever you call it doesn't define me any more than my mental-health conditions do. in other words, it loosely defines much of what i can't be, but not much of what i can. it's only one fact about me among many others. if you follow self-defeating thinking, you can always find a demographic that you happen to be part of which makes you doomed to tragedy when you equate yourself to it, no matter who in the universe you are

that's what i don't get about feminism and counter-feminism trends btw. or any other form or activism, for that matter. as theoretical ideas to be systematically discussed and promoted accordingly through formal rules and initiatives, sure, it makes perfect sense. but as a personal thing, 24/7... i just don't get it. people will be people. they won't accept me or understand me any better if i preach to them that they should do so. best case is they won't be pissed off with me (which, in their place, i probably would)

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or, more specifically, if i preach that they should do so just because i happen to be part of demographic xyz, as if i and my arbitrary demographic slice of the population are one and the same -- for better or... for better, because that's how activism works

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Just because one criticizes something in radical feminism doesn't mean he or she is conservative.

And conservatives are part of societies too, you can't eliminate them.

If we did it would be undemocratic. It would be like telling people they're only allowed to vote for the Democrats. A one sided democracy is a contradiction in terms.

Go get the truck, I'll bring my tranq's. XD

Then Pharaoh gave this order to all his people: "Every Hebrew boy that is born you must throw into the Nile, but let every girl live." (Exodus 1:22 NIV)

he failed to establish a successful coalition government though and his proposal has been stuck in congress ever since

i'd still like to see an example of the second hypothetical law i mentioned though

If you locked The Thread That Shall Not Be Named, then you gotta lock this one too. Otherwise, you're being prejudiced, biased, and discriminatory.

Oh, wait. Only denigrating women is bad. Denigrating men is OK. Never mind. Carry on.

I should've typed eggs instead of sex....

The mod who locked the other thread didn't even mention this one, which was the original thread. They don't even see it lol.

The female equivalent locked at page 5, here we are past 20.

I do agree that it is not fair. Even though I find the topic and threads distasteful.

I sent a personal message to a moderator explaining the double standard being crammed down our throats.

Of course since men seem to be scum of the earth, I'm sure they will not even pay attention.

Both thread should be allowed to continue, and people need to grow up and stop being over sensitive. And stop being hypocrites.

Either close down both, or leave both open.

Maybe that's a good way to teach us about how love and dating is in the real world. What's the point of having an idealistic forum in an imperfect world?

Dudes, we should let it go. I believe there will come when women stop abusing us. Okay, some women.

i don't entirely disagree with the sentiment, but by that reasoning we should all be aiming to reproduce all the unpleasant elements of the world at large inside our own homes. you know, toughen up and get over it

the thing isn't accepting or allowing or inviting the inevitable annoyances of the world into your own environment, but accepting instead that they exist and always will. the world is not a fair place and never will be. present-day culture does a disservice to everyone by insisting that fairness is the default state of the universe and that it's probably your fault when anything seems to suggest otherwise. on the other hand, people blaming thousands of other people for one person in their life that they're pissed off with but can't confront is the oldest thing in the world, so there's that