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19 Jun 2019, 10:41 am

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It’s hardly stating the “ideal” when some of us are just sharing our experiences - the reality.

Ah, TP, you're shouting into the wilderness

No, she's talking to people who don't want to listen. The rest of us are paying attention.

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19 Jun 2019, 10:42 am

I’m confused about why we’re talking about homelessness. Marknis isn’t homeless. I don’t think living with a parent should count.

It’s a sign that at least one person finds you tolerable. That’s good.

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19 Jun 2019, 10:45 am

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Lots of people who are on SSI (not even SSDI) who are raking in $800 a month are in relationships.

These people often become homeless for a time because they don’t submit necessary paperwork and lose their benefits for a time.

These things only exist in the First/2nd World

Those things are extremely common and far from pleasant.

Let’s see how much more real we can get...

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19 Jun 2019, 10:45 am

You would be surprised how many decent homeless people are out there.

You have some who are mentally ill out of their minds.

But you also have some who are eloquent, and proper in their personal conduct.

I'm not saying EVERY woman would do this. But there are woman who might be charmed by a homeless person, and at least seek to "clean him up." And, at the least, help him obtain services.

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19 Jun 2019, 10:52 am

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... It doesn't make sense to say to a woman "... It's money, good looks and status that you want." ...

How many women do you personally know who have married a homeless man from off the street? Just asking.

That's a little extreme Fnord.

No, it's an honest question.

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A man with a good steady job will do for most women.

"Good" and "Steady" being relative, of course. Having no job at all puts many men out of the running for relationships.

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Money was never an issue for me choosing a partner as long as he had a solid work ethic, that was sufficient.

Not jobless, eh? What about "Not homeless" as well? Did his living conditions never enter the picture, or would you have been content to go back to his place if it had turned out to be a cardboard box in an alley off of Fifth Street?

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Gold diggers and social climbers are something else entirely of course and they probably don't make the most compassionate wives.

Who said anything about gold-diggers? Given the choice between a homeless man with no job, and a full-time shelf-stocker living in a one-bedroom apartment, the man with the job and a place to live will be more likely to be in a relationship.

While wealth and social status may not be the primary conditions for most women to enter into a relationship, the complete lack of wealth and social status are certainly deal-breakers.

Yes. I agree because women want to have a partner who can help support a family. A humble job will do. My point is that women are drawn to charisma and kindness, someone who will LISTEN to them and validate their feelings, more than they desire money and status. I mentioned gold diggers as an ugly exception to the norm of most women's motives to find a partner. Kraftie is right, women can fall in love with people down on their luck. We nurture rather than compete.

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19 Jun 2019, 10:53 am

I feel like most women would be wary of allowing a homeless man into her home.

But I do feel they can be charmed by such a person.

I do find that many women have at least a fairly strong "maternal instinct."

I should also mention that men can very well have a strong desire to "save" someone. That someone could be a homeless woman.

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19 Jun 2019, 10:55 am

It’s not a good idea to pick up some random stranger who’s sleeping on a park bench, but on the other hand, there are lots of different things that can put people in lousy situations.

Safety is extremely important, obviously.

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19 Jun 2019, 10:57 am

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Yes. I agree because women want to have a partner who can help support a family

This forum is laughable.

So after all this formidable lecture, who’s stereotyping women now? :lol:

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19 Jun 2019, 10:58 am

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... women want to have a partner who can help support a family ... women are drawn to charisma and kindness, someone who will listen and validate their feelings, more than money and status...

^QFT^

It's the whole package, with greater emphasis on some aspects and less on others, depending on who's looking.

The idea that it's ONLY empathy or ONLY wealth or ONLY good looks is preposterous -- everything gets taken into account, and not just one or two aspects.

But the complete lack of even one aspect will "break the deal".

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19 Jun 2019, 11:00 am

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Yes. I agree because women want to have a partner who can help support a family

This forum is laughable.

So after all this formidable lecture, who’s stereotyping women now? :lol:

Obviously, not all women want children but many do.

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19 Jun 2019, 11:02 am

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Who said about strangers? Maybe he is the homeless man who salutes you every time you pass to your way home.

His body odor may charm you for instance. No one knows. :heart:

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19 Jun 2019, 11:03 am

Fnord wrote:

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... women want to have a partner who can help support a family ... women are drawn to charisma and kindness, someone who will listen and validate their feelings, more than money and status...

Everyone is different, though. Some will be fine if one aspect is lacking.

It’s usually not that logical. It often comes down to just clicking with somebody for no apparent reason.

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19 Jun 2019, 11:05 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

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Who said about strangers? Maybe he is the homeless man who salutes you every time you pass to your way home.

His body odor may charm you for instance. No one knows. :heart:

What a kind way to stereotype people who are down. :roll:

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19 Jun 2019, 11:06 am

Stereotype? anyone who can’t have access to shower will have body odor. Duh.

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19 Jun 2019, 11:08 am

The point I’m trying to make here is that there’s no reason to give up on finding someone.

I know some people in relationships who you all would argue are undateable. Perhaps they are all just figments of my diseased imagination.

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19 Jun 2019, 11:09 am

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Fnord wrote:

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... women want to have a partner who can help support a family ... women are drawn to charisma and kindness, someone who will listen and validate their feelings, more than money and status...

^QFT^ It's the whole package, with greater emphasis on some aspects and less on others, depending on who's looking. The idea that it's ONLY empathy or ONLY wealth or ONLY good looks is preposterous -- everything gets taken into account, and not just one or two aspects. But the complete lack of even one aspect will "break the deal".

Everyone is different, though. Some will be fine if one aspect is lacking. It’s usually not that logical. It often comes down to just clicking with somebody for no apparent reason.

... which serves to explain the high rates of divorce and spousal abuse...

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