Blog post on the epidemic of forced celibacy in males

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There is another poster here, a man who understands women exceptionally well (in my opinion) who said in this or another thread that he understood the women's point of view on this since if he were surrounded by very hungry lions, he would not be eager to jump into their mouths even if their hunger pangs were very painful. He's made that "prey around starving animals" analogy before and I think it's a wonderful one. Being a woman around a man who is that desparate does feel like being a gazelle around an extremely hungry lion. The very painful hunger pangs of the lion do not inspire the gazelle to sacrifice its own bodily well being just so the lion's stomache won't hurt so much.

And that's what's happening here. I have no doubt that it is painful to be a man who desperately wants women but women don't want him. I also have no dount that it really, really hurts to be a very hungry lion. But I wouldn't offer my body to either one just so they won't be in so much pain. I think the men who are that desperate are making the women around them feel like prey around a ravenous animal and when has prey ever sacrificed it's own self to make the predator feel less hungry?

This is why I can understand RICKY's advice to visit prostitutes. It takes the edge off the hunger.

If your hunger is for sex, then yes it works wonders. But not everyone is looking for something that can be bought so easily...

Prostitutes are a last resort for me. I got my logical and moral reasons why. Even though I got lots of bottled up sexual frustration with no avenue to vent it off...

Someone should invent those.

$3000 and you have a RealDoll...

I can't use a real doll in a train station.

i seem to have been born with a higher sex drive than an average woman (for example, i currently masturbate 5 to 10 times a week even in addition to regular sex. in high school that was more than 2 times a day, even up to 4 times). i went through extended periods where i could not get any sexual contact with another person... and i know if i were not married i would be back to that same situation.

but i don't get the idea of using another human being for sexual purposes. because, well, it involves another human being. it is not a victimless crime. most women are doing the job because they have to, because of having no other choice, not because they want to; it is a choice that is usually bred out of desperation. and the trade has an impact on the women. some women are unable to ever have a positive emotional relationship again, much less a healthy sexual relationship, after working in prostitution.

i'm not just talking illegal prostitution - i mean legal as well. there is a time limit on what age a person is still considered desirable in the business, and the chance of ever getting a decent job after 'retirement' is very slim. plus the health risks. sure the women are tested for STI's, but nobody is testing the customers, and women in legal brothels are often quietly encouraged to allow the man to go without protection for the sake of his enjoyment. anything for the customer.

i would not buy a pair of jeans from a company that hired children to work in a sweatshop, and many people would agree with that sentiment. so i don't understand why it could ever be considered acceptable to purchase sexual services from a fellow human.

i tend to think that people who use sexual services are either unaware of the impact, or they don't care about the impact, or they enjoy the idea of degrading a woman, or they like the idea of having control over another person through payment. i don't think it has much to do with sex at all, at its core. i think it has to do with putting one's own desires above other people's and not really caring about the negative impact that one can have on other people.

^but, sex aside for a moment, do you ever feel lonely?

i'm surprised this thread hasn't died yet.
where's the Threadkiller Society when we need them ?

yes, friend-wise. i have only short friendships and i don't relate well to people. even on WP people talk about being friends with each other, but i alienate people. i totally understand why because i do it to myself, but i still hate the feeling.

i am not romantic so love-wise i don't get too lonely. back in my dating days it was more important to me to have sex than love, though now i think they make a good combination. i have a lot of emotional baggage and i don't take very good care of myself (stupid choices, etc.) so i think sometimes my husband is more like a caregiver than a partner. he doesn't mind, but i hate being a burden.

@Nostromos, I acknowledge that you have worked hard to make progress - and you've made progress....but there's more work to be done. I'm just encouraging you to continue down that path.

@hyperlexian, I respect your argument about prostitution, but I disagree. If prostitution were legal (therefore safe, sanitary, well compensated, regulated, etc.), I believe the negatives you're referring to would either be greatly reduced or non-existent. While it's not something I would do, there are all kinds of women in this world who have all kinds of different perspectives about their bodies and sex. If a woman wants to rent her vagina, I think she should be able to do that in the safest, healthiest, fairest way possible. I don't see legalized prostitution as being about power or degradation - I honestly think it's about sex.

Part of why I like independent providers. They chose to do it because it was the most efficient way for them to make money in light of their current circumstances.

Some of them got into the business because of stupid choices they made (ie single mom who got knocked up by a "bad boy" who ran off cry me a river!), some them like what the money buys, and for many it beats flipping burgers.

They want to leave the business, that is their choice, you can tell when a girl is getting ready to quit (more of an attitude and service level drops) anyway.

Rules to go by are simple: no pimps, no streetwalkers, no underage (easy to spot), no Russians/Eastern Europeans, no more than one girl at a time, always use protection

Besides dating sucks. Why should I not enjoy myself simply because I can't dynamically trigger 20 attraction switches at once in a hot sweaty loud bar but I can make money at my job?

For me it is about sex and companionship. Every girl I see, I treat her well and we usually have a good conversation. I'd say half the time spent is conversation anyway.

It is also about the social proof, i've hired girls before simply to not be dateless at social events. You'd be surprised at how much female attention you receive when you have a cute girl already on your arm. Isn't hypergamy great?

This stupid argument will be all moot when the sexbots hit anyway. Come to think of it, when the sexbot revolution hits, the L&D section of wrong planet will be a ghost town!

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I broke free from the shackles that were around my bits by paying for sex. First time at 26, what a waste. I thought it would calm me down, but it hasn't

ITS HAPPENED TO ME TOO LATE. I SHOULD HAVE GOT IT AT AGE 18. THAT WAY I WOULD HAVE STOOD A REAL CHANCE. NOW, I AM EMOTIONALLY DAMAGED BY THE SOCIAL AND PEER CRAP THAT SURROUNDS SEX. THANKS A BUNCH. BLOODY IDIOTS.

It's called not being a loony f-tard...

The only thing that Sodini ever deserved was to be put down like a rabid dog.

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ha. I dropped the v-chip at 21. Ya gotta start early. It really takes the edge off.

Down in the sex stakes, but I've compensated in other areas. Money for instance. I don't know anyone who can match what I have.