Women asking guys out?
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Why would they acknowledge it? Denying it makes them look better, and it’s you who suffers from it, not them.
The blunt ones said it so there were probably more who cared about it; also people are less shy in texting for some reason.
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Most people seem to like believing the world is nice and fair, in some sense other than the law of the jungle. They also have a habit of immediately concluding that someone who says something unpleasant is going on or is about to happen, wants it to happen. Therefore, bringing good news makes you look better, even if the news is false.
It doesn’t make sense to me, but they don’t need to convince me.
I get it.
I personally look at it this way. The good stuff is to be expected. The bad stuff is NOT to be expected. That’s why when bad things happen people scramble to fix it. Living your life in such a way that you only expect the good things to happen keeps you happy and optimistic.
Fundamentally this is what all the self-help and motivational books are really about. They lose me when they start talking about “positive confession,” the idea that you can merely speak something into being, or that speaking or thinking certain things attracts things and people to you.
And I also don’t pretend that this IS reality. It’s just that mindset determines action. So if I’m playing a mental game or knowingly deluding myself, I don’t really care as long as the results are consistently good.
People are generally like that. I find that gossip tends to attract negative people who thrive on knowing people have it worse than they do and enjoy the sensationalism. They WANT people to fail. You aren’t going to want to be around people you know look forward to your downfall. Positive people build each other up and celebrate the good things.
News media is absolutely atrocious. There was a school shooting recently when the resource officer took out the shooter. Iirc, that was a total of two fatalities and one injured. Ok, yeah, that sucks. But here is a guy on his JOB who possibly saved many more lives. Why isn’t that all over the news? No. Instead, I just read a report about the Parkland kid who’s getting love letters from fans.
Maybe the world really is going to Hell in a handbasket. Maybe I and some others are trying to do something about it. Messages of hopelessness are not for us.
I can defo see that. Staying positive, bright, upbeat, and happy makes you more attractive.
Why would they acknowledge it? Denying it makes them look better, and it’s you who suffers from it, not them.
Have many female friends who dumped men for being "too short."
Definitely not something that is only in "men's heads."
One girl I worked with straight-up told me how much contempt she has for small men. Even referred to them as children.
Why would they acknowledge it? Denying it makes them look better, and it’s you who suffers from it, not them.
Have many female friends who dumped men for being "too short."
Definitely not something that is only in "men's heads."
One girl I worked with straight-up told me how much contempt she has for small men. Even referred to them as children.
I've heard similar things.
One chick at work was telling me all about this one time she met a really cool guy on an online dating site. He was smart, funny, handsome, ect.
Then they met in real life and she saw how short he actually was. She dropped him like a bad habit.
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Why would they acknowledge it? Denying it makes them look better, and it’s you who suffers from it, not them.
Have many female friends who dumped men for being "too short."
Definitely not something that is only in "men's heads."
One girl I worked with straight-up told me how much contempt she has for small men. Even referred to them as children.
I've heard similar things.
One chick at work was telling me all about this one time she met a really cool guy on an online dating site. He was smart, funny, handsome, ect.
Then they met in real life and she saw how short he actually was. She dropped him like a bad habit.
She's also tall for a woman yet expects men to still be taller than her when she's in high-heels. Plus she's overweight but wants body-builder type men. We're friends so I don't want to say anything that'd hurt her feelings, but dear God are her standards eye-roll worthy.
Why would they acknowledge it? Denying it makes them look better, and it’s you who suffers from it, not them.
Have many female friends who dumped men for being "too short."
Definitely not something that is only in "men's heads."
One girl I worked with straight-up told me how much contempt she has for small men. Even referred to them as children.
I've heard similar things.
One chick at work was telling me all about this one time she met a really cool guy on an online dating site. He was smart, funny, handsome, ect.
Then they met in real life and she saw how short he actually was. She dropped him like a bad habit.
She's also tall for a woman yet expects men to still be taller than her when she's in high-heels. Plus she's overweight but wants body-builder type men. We're friends so I don't want to say anything that'd hurt her feelings, but dear God are her standards eye-roll worthy.
^ That type of attitude is depressingly common in modern society.
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What’s the problem anyway? If they can find a partner meeting their sky-high standards, then they can afford to have them, no matter whether you think they themselves are good enough or not. And if they can’t, it’s their loss.
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Exactly. I can't see anything being said that hasn't already been said many times since I returned to the site this year. Same stuff people were saying two years back, and presumably all the time in between. This particular thread isn't supposed to have anything to do with helping 2 male members improve themselves anyway. So there's no need to post advice to them here. If they start a thread for honest advice about what they might be able to improve, then sure, hopefully that's what would be found in there (even though it's already been said).
I've recently been giving advice via PM on request - I don't think an unrelated thread is the best place to tell individual members harsh truths about their looks or situation. But just cos you're not seeing something being said (which I argue, you are, just not by every single member), doesn't mean it's not being said.
We can create a dedicated thread for them on their requests, but please Idealist camp, if that happens,....then this time, let us to monopolize all advising, just for this time.
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Exactly. I can't see anything being said that hasn't already been said many times since I returned to the site this year. Same stuff people were saying two years back, and presumably all the time in between. This particular thread isn't supposed to have anything to do with helping 2 male members improve themselves anyway. So there's no need to post advice to them here. If they start a thread for honest advice about what they might be able to improve, then sure, hopefully that's what would be found in there (even though it's already been said).
I've recently been giving advice via PM on request - I don't think an unrelated thread is the best place to tell individual members harsh truths about their looks or situation. But just cos you're not seeing something being said (which I argue, you are, just not by every single member), doesn't mean it's not being said.
We can create a dedicate thread for them on their requests, but please Idealist camp, if that happens,....then this time, let us to monopolize all advising, just for this time.
Now what fun would that be?
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I don’t feel there’s any advice ther would help me. There’s a solution but it’s one I can’t do because if my disability and if I didn’t have it, then I wouldn’t have a problem.
If I hadn’t been born wrong I’d joined the military, got a wife , had kids, found a job outside the military after while or stayed in until retirement.
Or could gone to work in construction with my uncle. He’s wealthy. But at last I can’t Handel full time work. I’m not normal so the solution to just find s better paying full time job is impossible
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If I hadn’t been born wrong I’d joined the military, got a wife , had kids, found a job outside the military after while or stayed in until retirement.
Or could gone to work in construction with my uncle. He’s wealthy. But at last I can’t Handel full time work. I’m not normal so the solution to just find s better paying full time job is impossible
Drop everything right now and go to your uncle right away; no excuses; if you can work part time then you surely can work full time; or you can arrange something in the middle with your uncle if he’s close to you; learn some trade with him, I dunno. Maybe he has other businesses or can introduce you to some business where you can use some of your skills.
You have a wealthy uncle; that can be a blessing.
Don’t stay a cashier forever sly; it’s not enough - I am telling it bluntly; no woman dreams about getting married to a cashier. And if anyone here or elsewhere tells you this is not a major factor then I can assure you they’re lying or delusional.
Go! Now.
If I hadn’t been born wrong I’d joined the military, got a wife , had kids, found a job outside the military after while or stayed in until retirement.
Or could gone to work in construction with my uncle. He’s wealthy. But at last I can’t Handel full time work. I’m not normal so the solution to just find s better paying full time job is impossible
Drop everything right now and go to your uncle right away; no excuses; if you can work part time then you surely can work full time; or you can arrange something in the middle with your uncle if he’s close to you; learn some trade with him, I dunno. Maybe he has other businesses or can introduce you to some business where you can use some of your skills.
You have a wealthy uncle; that can be a blessing.
Don’t stay a cashier forever sly; it’s not enough - I am telling it bluntly; no woman dreams about getting married to a cashier. And if anyone here or elsewhere tells you this is not a major factor then I can assure you they’re lying or delusional.
Go! Now.
This is the truth sly.
Go watch the lion king. You need to stop being a fox and become a lion.
This is a major factor for sly, whether it's a major factor for women or not, because he is so hung up about it. Yes, he needs a better job so he will feel more worthy of a relationship with a woman.
Those idealists often act as if they know sly's situation better than he does. If he keeps repeating that financial situation is causing him problems then maybe it does?
Ok, in all seriousness, I recall you said you're overweight and I do recall you struggled in dating, yet you're married now, maybe you should tell sly the truth what you did.
No, I am underweight actually. And I have a lot undesirable physical characteristics. I have bad teeth, bad posture, monotone voice, short height, etc. But I do have a masters degree in software engineering and a decent job.
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Those idealists often act as if they know sly's situation better than he does. If he keeps repeating that financial situation is causing him problems then maybe it does?
Ok, in all seriousness, I recall you said you're overweight and I do recall you struggled in dating, yet you're married now, maybe you should tell sly the truth what you did.
No, I am underweight actually. And I have a lot undesirable physical characteristics. I have bad teeth, bad posture, monotone voice, short height, etc. But I do have a masters degree in software engineering and a decent job.
Ok, so the same point stands.
