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26 Oct 2017, 4:45 pm

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Men can't live with women; and they can't live without them.

And vice versa.


BS.

Of course men and women can live without eachother.

Men and women have almost nothing in common, besides reproduction.


B.S. why do you think I spend so much time on this forum. I feel like I need to talk to men. I don't want a life without men in it. You get a different kind of conversation to the conversation with women.



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26 Oct 2017, 7:00 pm

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Don't you think women's rights groups will win in getting them banned?

Did they succeed in banning porn back in the 70s/80s?
Did they succeed in banning internet porn in the 90s?
The reason they could not is because both feminism and the porn industry have the exact same motor, men's thirst for sex.
Feminism only works because thirsty men back it up. Remove those men and the whole thing collapses.

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And its not all about sex but being desired, liked, having shared interests

Well, that's kind of where a lot of this technology is going.
Combining weak AI with female voice aps to generate small talk.
I'm telling you NT females are losing their sh*t over a lot of this stuff.



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26 Oct 2017, 9:22 pm

Closet Genious wrote:
Outrider wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Men can't live with women; and they can't live without them.

And vice versa.


BS.

Of course men and women can live without eachother.

Men and women have almost nothing in common, besides reproduction.


One could argue the differences would balance each other out and were essential for prehistoric humans early survival, and humannhisyory had maintained these standards in a delicate equilibrium with of course the occasional rebellion against the.born or slowly changing gender.roles which were all swifly silenced as you can't fight biology.

As you may 'agree' modern society is for the most part incompatible with our natural biology and tendencies toward certain roles and functions in the family unit for survival and has left everything a mess, with a higher percentage of single people today in several countries, birth rates in the US, Japan, Australia and parts of Europe at all.time lows, marriage rates at all time low in several.countries, and divorce rates remaining high.

We are truly f*cked.

Possibly the.most shallow, disconnected and loveless society ever, with individualism on then rise and connection/comraderie with the local community dying.



I agree completely. We have not adapted well to modern society at all, not only in our relationships, but also our health in general(physical and mental).

No matter what current statistic I look up, it's at it's highest point yet: Number of failed marriages/relationships, number of obese people, number of depressed people, general stress levels ect.


There is research to suggest we're not evolved to deal.with modern life optimally.

Our ancestors primarily had to worry about short term stresses, the primary one being getting enough food for the tribe and family each day.

With that out of the way, ,.the only thing for the brain to.do for the.most part is fabricate "problems".

Researchers suggest our ancestors "worked" less hours per week and had less stress levels, ironically.

Humans have been around for at least 10,000-500,000 years+, "modern life"/civilization has only existed since ancient Egypt and Mesoptamia some 5,000 years ago.

NTs will always be highly adaptable and that's why they can still deal with.modern life (in this case barely) as they always have, but even their human adaptability levels are being pushed to their limits to the compromise of their own mental.and physical health.

One could argue that for example a medieval.peasant man and/or his wife had to go.without food some days to.feed the kids, but they weren't mentally or physically screwed.

Middle aged men and women are suffering a lot more health problems today, imagine what it will be like for my generation.

51% of 18-24 year old Australian men get.enough exercise per week, and my anecdotal.evidence suggests young men are typically always more active on average than the rest of.the general population.

We're the only animal with bills, mortgage, needing to study for expansive tests and pass to earn a degree, having to deal.with employment agencies. Banks, real estate, doctors, police, etc.

It is what it is, and it all.keeps society together.

But everything I just listed sounds like paperwork, paperwork and more paperwork to.me.

Its one of the reason my people, the indigenous Australians, have higher than the average drug and alcohol rates, higher imprisonment rates, higher poverty, mental and physical health problem rates.

My peoples are one of the oldest ethnicities in the world, and in less than 300 years were forcibly removed from.one world and now live in another entirely.



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27 Oct 2017, 12:50 am

The Abdominal Snowman wrote:
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Don't you think women's rights groups will win in getting them banned?

Did they succeed in banning porn back in the 70s/80s?
Did they succeed in banning internet porn in the 90s?
The reason they could not is because both feminism and the porn industry have the exact same motor, men's thirst for sex.
Feminism only works because thirsty men back it up. Remove those men and the whole thing collapses.

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And its not all about sex but being desired, liked, having shared interests

Well, that's kind of where a lot of this technology is going.
Combining weak AI with female voice aps to generate small talk.
I'm telling you NT females are losing their sh*t over a lot of this stuff.


In a world where an android can say this...

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I think it won't matter to men that it isn't true. Mia, the character in the TV show Humans, doesn't actually feel but she thinks she does. Men throughout history have sought female companionship and have the ability to devote an enormous attention to physical objects (e.g. boats, cars, motorcycles, memorabilia etc.). As I said, once affordable, men will devote just as much attention to these objects. Joaquin Phoenix character in Spike Jonze's Her can't resist the temptation of having "HER", even though, she is simply a software program. In the end he doesn't make a distinction and he falls in love. What he falls in love is not entirely clear.


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27 Oct 2017, 1:46 am

hurtloam wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Men can't live with women; and they can't live without them.

And vice versa.


BS.

Of course men and women can live without eachother.

Men and women have almost nothing in common, besides reproduction.


B.S. why do you think I spend so much time on this forum. I feel like I need to talk to men. I don't want a life without men in it. You get a different kind of conversation to the conversation with women.


Agreed. Having a crush and being in love are the best things in life. Nothing can beat it. So, I cannot think of a life without women either.



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27 Oct 2017, 1:49 am

Closet Genious wrote:
Outrider wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Men can't live with women; and they can't live without them.

And vice versa.


BS.

Of course men and women can live without eachother.

Men and women have almost nothing in common, besides reproduction.


One could argue the differences would balance each other out and were essential for prehistoric humans early survival, and humannhisyory had maintained these standards in a delicate equilibrium with of course the occasional rebellion against the.born or slowly changing gender.roles which were all swifly silenced as you can't fight biology.

As you may 'agree' modern society is for the most part incompatible with our natural biology and tendencies toward certain roles and functions in the family unit for survival and has left everything a mess, with a higher percentage of single people today in several countries, birth rates in the US, Japan, Australia and parts of Europe at all.time lows, marriage rates at all time low in several.countries, and divorce rates remaining high.

We are truly f*cked.

Possibly the.most shallow, disconnected and loveless society ever, with individualism on then rise and connection/comraderie with the local community dying.



I agree completely. We have not adapted well to modern society at all, not only in our relationships, but also our health in general(physical and mental).

No matter what current statistic I look up, it's at it's highest point yet: Number of failed marriages/relationships, number of obese people, number of depressed people, general stress levels ect.


Certainly, but that is only the general statistics, and some people still fall in love, some people are not depressed, and
some people live with low stress levels. At least to an extent, these are things you can personally affect. Which means you cannot use the general statistics as a reason why you personally are loveless, depressed and stressed out.



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27 Oct 2017, 3:06 am

Closet Genious wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Men can't live with women; and they can't live without them.

And vice versa.


BS.

Of course men and women can live without eachother.

Men and women have almost nothing in common, besides reproduction.

Tell me you were joking.
Or I will have an explanation for your misfortune with women.


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27 Oct 2017, 3:25 am

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Having a crush and being in love are the best things in life. Nothing can beat it.


I hope that's not true, because then, at least, as per my case I have experienced that a crush or being in love has simply a negative effect on my bank account but then I have, after all, dated two sycophants. :wink:

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Certainly, but that is only the general statistics, and some people still fall in love, some people are not depressed, and
some people live with low stress levels. At least to an extent, these are things you can personally affect. Which means you cannot use the general statistics as a reason why you personally are loveless, depressed and stressed out.


On this site, I think general statistics must exclude all those who are "personally effected" by autism, since being "loveless, depressed, and stressed out" is somewhat a normal experience on here. In other words, the general statistics for this site might actually serve as a good indicator of how likely you are to meet someone, which isn't impossible. I just came across a member who met someone on this site and they're living together now. :heart:


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27 Oct 2017, 3:27 am

magz wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Men can't live with women; and they can't live without them.

And vice versa.


BS.

Of course men and women can live without eachother.

Men and women have almost nothing in common, besides reproduction.

Tell me you were joking.
Or I will have an explanation for your misfortune with women.


My misfortune was getting cheated on, I don't need an explanation for that.

I was not joking. I didn't mean "we both watch game of thrones so we have alot in common".
Men and women think differently, communicate differently, select partners differently, value different things differently. I might have more in common with you magz, then you are the exception, not the rule.
Men and women are incredibly different, saying otherwise is foolish.



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27 Oct 2017, 3:38 am

Men and women being incredibly different in different areas is what makes a good partnership.


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27 Oct 2017, 3:59 am

Having a crush is awful. It’s pretty much all you care about. It’s like that person has control over you. Not being in control is a terrible feeling.



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27 Oct 2017, 4:16 am

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Having a crush is awful. It’s pretty much all you care about. It’s like that person has control over you. Not being in control is a terrible feeling.


Yeah. Also, since you're not with them you don't get the full picture of who they are so your brain fills in the gaps with some idealization instead of the reality, keeping you distracted from other potential options.



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27 Oct 2017, 4:21 am

Closet Genious wrote:
magz wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Men can't live with women; and they can't live without them.

And vice versa.


BS.

Of course men and women can live without eachother.

Men and women have almost nothing in common, besides reproduction.

Tell me you were joking.
Or I will have an explanation for your misfortune with women.


My misfortune was getting cheated on, I don't need an explanation for that.

I was not joking. I didn't mean "we both watch game of thrones so we have alot in common".
Men and women think differently, communicate differently, select partners differently, value different things differently. I might have more in common with you magz, then you are the exception, not the rule.
Men and women are incredibly different, saying otherwise is foolish.

I don't watch Game of Thrones. To the crocodiles with the Game of Thrones!
You mean you don't see fellow humans in the opposite sex?


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27 Oct 2017, 4:39 am

Sabreclaw wrote:
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Having a crush is awful. It’s pretty much all you care about. It’s like that person has control over you. Not being in control is a terrible feeling.


Yeah. Also, since you're not with them you don't get the full picture of who they are so your brain fills in the gaps with some idealization instead of the reality, keeping you distracted from other potential options.


It’s a sage bubble of fantasy which eventually gets popped. When it gets popped, it gets popped hard.



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27 Oct 2017, 5:41 am

I agree with Closet, yes - men and women are extremely different.

I may have more in common in the way of looking at life with other men across the seas, like many men here on WP, than women in my city.

We are like aliens to each other.



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27 Oct 2017, 6:01 am

Men are the medicine of the world.