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They shouldn't do that either.

Men should care for their weight too.

On the contrary people don't take it seriously enough, or obesity wouldn't be an epidemic and the fastest growing disease

Being overweight has become.normalized by society, this is bad.

Obesity is no less a disease than cancer.

I would rather be obese than have a brain tumour.

Exactly. If there was a spanish flu epidemic everyone would be scrambling to get medicine and they'd avoid known patients like a literal plague.

I feel like the only sane man saying "Hey guys, you could die from this" while scores of people tell me stuff like "We should have spanish flu acceptance" and "stop shaming people with spanish flu, they're still healthy" and "doctors exaggerate the dangers of spanish flu so they can sell more medicine".

It was the same story last century with smoking. Doctors discovered the dangers of smoking but the tobacco companies still kept selling the stuff even though they knew it's both harmful and addictive.

Now we have McDonald's are snackfood companies using principles of psychology to make their food addictive. Addiction scares me because when people are addicted they lose their free will. They can't stop.

Junkfood addiction is far more common than people think. Defending junkfood addicts is like defending heroin addicts. I'm not saying any type of addict should be shamed, they need help not shaming. I just don't think we should enable addicts by telling them it's ok to continue in their addiction.

By extension, we shouldn't enable the food-pushers who profit from this either. It's no longer a free market because addiction robs people of their free will.

But there’s a lot between obese and skinny. You can be chubby and healthy . A lot of people would say anything but thin is fat.
Guess it depends on what one considers healthy lifestyle. I bet a mountain climber would say you’re unhealthy.

I hope your right. I’ve been depressed lately since dog passing. I haven’t been to gym in a week and I over ate few days might not gone over my balance point but over 1600 calories. My family bought me dreaded Oreo cookies too so I ate some

Very confusing it seems like they even confuse themselves

Maybe it’s not their fault anymore then it’s someone’s fault for being stolen from.

In the real world what others did effects you. You don’t live in a bubble where outside forces don’t effect you.

Agreed with everything.

Fast food is like advertisements, porn or pop.music.

Simple on the outside but there's a lot of psychology involved on the inside that plays to peoples tendencies.

People consider my views extreme too but ironically I'm against fat shaming.

But "fact shaming" people who consider obesity a terrible and growing disease that needs to be stopped with more health education and health programs in society is just as wrong as fat shamers.

I don’t see how me pointing out hypocrisy here makes me the fat acceptance police, but whatever. If I’m defending “being unhealthy” it’s because it’s probable these people are clearly struggling, so it’s pretty hypocritical for people who also struggle in other ways to not at least acknowledge that it’s possibly not that easy to lose weight.

Its easier to lose weight than to cure mental illness.

When mental illness cause weight problems then they go hand in hand.

2/3 Australian adults are overweight.

Do 2/3 fat people in Australia have mental.problems making it harder for them.to keep weight off?

My experiences: I was fat as a teenager and unhealthily lost the weight from an eating disorder and overexercise.

Same.thing when I was 17.

Despite healthy eating and weight training I am fairly weak.

My strength was below average and is only.now just above average many months later.

Almost a year of proper diet and exercise I am not very strong and average in physique. But I don't give up.

I recovered from being both fat and anorexia.

Today I have an unhealthy obsession with healthy diet and exercise causing me lots of stress. It's been like this the whole journey but nearly 4 years later I'm finally becomig healthyish.

So I know.exacty.what you're talking.about.

People are getting mixed messages. People hear "you have to eat less so you won't get fat" from some sources and "don't eat less or you'll turn into an anorexic from other sources.

Sometimes people try to fact shame you by saying if you encourage an obese person to lose weight you're leading them to anorexia. An obese person trying to get to a healthy weight does not fit the definition of anorexia.

Another piece of misinformation I hear is "don't eat less or your body will store more fat". Eating less does not make you get fatter. The subjects of the Minnesota Starvation Experiment lived on a very low calorie diet. Eating less didn't make them fatter, it made them extremely thin. I'm not saying their diet is healthy but it proves that eating less doesn't make the body store calories it doesn't have.

Sometimes I wonder if groups like Healthy at Every Size are being funded by McDonald's. Obviously I have no proof of that, I'm not claiming it's so, just speculating.

Click this link to hear a podcast discussing the misguided people who think that drawing a correlation between weight and health is a hate crime.
https://thefpl.us/episode/89

If underweight models are providing a bad role model for young girls by giving an unhealthy body image than plus-size models are also providing a bad role model for young girls by giving them an unhealthy body image. I don't mean the plus-size models who are just a bit chubby, I mean the plus size models who are morbidly obese like like Tess Holliday.

Imagine you're teenage daughter has decided to get down to a healthy weight by eating sensibly and then she reads a magazine interview with a 125 kg plus-size model who says it's healthy to have a BMI over 40 and that trying to lose weight will automatically lead to an eating disorder.

It must be really hard for parents when their kids are hearing so many mixed messages. When a person who looks like this is saying this is a healthy size, it must send confusing messages to adolescents who already have enough to deal with.

That’s still your experience. It may not be someone elses. Do you have any idea what hormones do to some women due to their monthly cycle? It’s not nice. Some women are luckier than others.

I think the only way is to separate the issues of weight and health, push a healthy lifestyle and ignore weight altogether.

The problem we have is that the c**p is the easy, cheap, and most convenient option at all times, so when were determined we manage to swim against the tide and loose some weight BUT when we have a problem (inevitable, and I'm including NT's) we are no longer able to give our healthy lifestyle priority and we fall back onto the c**p because it's all around us. When we are doing better and able to make it a priority again we have to start all over again.

I've noticed that people who don't find this as difficult are mostly those surrounded by other healthy lifestyle people, therefor when they fall back on what's easy and convenient it's on a different level eg. I am having a bad time, I go to my Mum's 'my life's awful' does my Mum say 'oh dear have some cake' NO! she says 'do you want an apple or a banana'

I often feel like I am surrounded by the c**p but it's more mixed for me, the shops have endless isles of rubbish but also there are whole foods here and while most people are unhealthy, my parents are not, I am sure this is part of why I have a healthy lifestyle which did mean that I lost 3st 7lb and I've kept it off for several years now, but it does need to be tackled as nations by make a healthy lifestyle the convenient option, the unhealthy would then be something people had to make an effort and a conscious decision to do.

And defiantly no fat shaming or thin shaming, because that's basically telling someone to hate themselves.

I have low testosterone making it incredibly difficult to gain or maintain muscle mass.

Undereating and overexercise damages peoples metabolism, hormone levels, thyroid, etc.

Reading (fiction and history) writing (historical fiction) and walking (with a bit of running)

I don't mind a bit of telly but the screens now are ridiculous so I don't have a telly. I watch a bit of ITV Player on my laptop instead, like Endeavor, Morse, the Durrells. And the rugby.

Yes, and each other.