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22 Jul 2024, 9:40 pm

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That's fine.
Everyone is allowed his/her/their choice and we're all different.
We've said that many times.

It seemed as if you were trying to shame or marginalize fxe, and that's not cool.
I hope that wasn't your intention.


No, I had no desire to shame fxe. I just didn't like how fxe smeared a lot of us as boring (just because we have different interests)

You missed his point which was that people were being judgmental and hypocritical.


Also the dove-tailing point that generally you have to meet other people on their terms rather than only your own.

If one has a judgmental attitude about what appeals to "normies", they're more likely to receive negative judgments from those "normies". If one insists on putting other people on the defensive they need to be prepared for those people's defence mechanisms.


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22 Jul 2024, 9:41 pm

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I'm not sure about the aircon quip.
I know some women who work with HVAC and install or repair AC.
Is that what you mean?


It seems like he's referring to jobs that are indoors with air conditioning, as opposed to more physical jobs that are mostly outside in the elements.


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22 Jul 2024, 9:44 pm

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I'm not sure about the aircon quip.
I know some women who work with HVAC and install or repair AC.
Is that what you mean?


It seems like he's referring to jobs that are indoors with air conditioning, as opposed to more physical jobs that are mostly outside in the elements.


I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. :lol:
I know some forest firefighters in California who are women.
I also see lots of women working on road construction when it's over 100 outside.


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22 Jul 2024, 9:47 pm

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What is the natural order of men and women, exactly, and how is it being changed or ignored?


Woman are more successful than ever before at the expense of a lot the men falling behind. Education and in any job with air conditioning, women are doing excellent in.



Hold up.
Women's success is at the expense of men?
How, exactly?

Also yes, women do tend to get more education than men.

I'm not sure about the aircon quip.
I know some women who work with HVAC and install or repair AC.
Is that what you mean?


Women's success is at the expense of men?
How, exactly?

Like I've mentioned, men are now more economically unattractive than ever before. Status and resources helps boost a man's confidence, which in turn would be more attraction to a lot more women. Also it's not womens fault that this is happening but rather our current system in place.

I know some women who work with HVAC and install or repair AC.
Is that what you mean?

I meant you're not going to see a lot of women digging ditches in 95 degree weather 5 days a week was my point.


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22 Jul 2024, 9:48 pm

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I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. :lol:


That's a skill I need to work on. :oops: :lol:


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22 Jul 2024, 9:55 pm

^^ It seems like a positive thing that women are no longer financially dependent on men because it can lead to more equal partnerships. Hopefully, folks can find other things to boost their confidence if they feel they need it. Women are often attracted to men who demonstrate qualities like kindness, compassion, humility, a good sense of humor, etc.



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22 Jul 2024, 9:57 pm

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^^ It seems like a positive thing that women are no longer financially dependent on men because it can lead to more equal partnerships. Hopefully, folks can find other things to boost their confidence if they feel they need it. Women are often attracted to men who demonstrate qualities like kindness, compassion, humility, a good sense of humor, etc.


But how are men supposed to find relationships without financial codependency as an incentive?


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22 Jul 2024, 10:01 pm

:lol:

Yeah, Western society seriously went downhill since women got birth control and careers. I actually heard that during a sermon once. JFC.



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22 Jul 2024, 10:04 pm

TwilightPrincess wrote:
^^ It seems like a positive thing that women are no longer financially dependent on men because it can lead to more equal partnerships. Hopefully, folks can find other things to boost their confidence if they feel they need it. Women are often attracted to men who demonstrate qualities like kindness, compassion, humility, a good sense of humor, etc.


Still to this day, men will always be expected to be the bread winners in some shape or form. For most woman it's optional. It's only mandatory for woman to be the financial head if there's no one else supporting you aside from your parents. Personally to me, money shouldn't matter in relationships but for a lot men its mandatory; otherwise you can't get your foot in the door.

Sorry I missed your other point. Yes that's also true based on the forum based on what we find attraction personality wise. Have you heard of the phrase "Dating for woman is like shopping but for men it's like a job interview." Before you get a interview employers have to look at a resume before considering you.


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22 Jul 2024, 10:06 pm

I can't find the logic this conversation (or the OP, but that's another matter ...)

They're complaining that women are successful and independent even though they admit they themselves are anxious or even boring homebodies, and that they want partners who are opposite or complementary to them.

Non sequitur. ^

They're also saying women are flocking toward dangerous felons so they can be kept and provide "easy" intercourse, but women work in airconditioned offices because they're not risk-takers.

These men are envious of situations where women are in relationships against their will, but they themselves are too scared to ask women on dates because it might hurt their own feelings.

The common denominator seems to be that they have low regard for women whether they're successful or not, but at the same time they desperately seek these people to be part of their lives.

If someone could clarify I'd be most grateful.


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22 Jul 2024, 10:17 pm

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I can't find the logic this conversation (or the OP, but that's another matter ...)

They're complaining that women are successful and independent even though they admit they themselves are anxious or even boring homebodies, and that they want partners who are opposite or complementary to them.

Non sequitur. ^

They're also saying women are flocking toward dangerous felons so they can be kept and provide "easy" intercourse, but women work in airconditioned offices because they're not risk-takers.

These men are envious of situations where women are in relationships against their will, but they themselves are too scared to ask women on dates because it might hurt their own feelings.

The common denominator seems to be that they have low regard for women whether they're successful or not, but at the same time they desperately seek these people to be part of their lives.



All of this is stating and these are practices of freewill and choice. No one forced it, It's just happening.
Also I don't think men value a woman's success. (They would but it wouldn't be the primary driver.) Beauty and personality is more valued from women in society.


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22 Jul 2024, 10:19 pm

Don't fool yourself TP.
They haven't read or believed anything we've said about the dangers for women.
It doesn't fit with their worldview.


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22 Jul 2024, 10:19 pm

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^^ It seems like a positive thing that women are no longer financially dependent on men because it can lead to more equal partnerships. Hopefully, folks can find other things to boost their confidence if they feel they need it. Women are often attracted to men who demonstrate qualities like kindness, compassion, humility, a good sense of humor, etc.


Still to this day, men will always be expected to be the bread winners in some shape or form.
This doesn’t appear to be the case anymore although I suppose it may vary depending on one’s location.
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Sorry I missed your other point. Yes that's also true based on the forum based on what we find attraction personality wise. Have you heard of the phrase "Dating for woman is like shopping but for men it's like a job interview." Before you get an interview employers have to look at a resume before considering you.
Dating for women is not like shopping. It’s f*****g hard. It’s just as difficult as it is for men if not more so due to safety concerns.


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22 Jul 2024, 10:24 pm

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Also I don't think men value a woman's success. (They would but it wouldn't be the primary driver.) Beauty and personality is more valued from women in society.


Right ...
Many men who make comments like this are dependent on their mothers and wives to pay their bills.
Women aren't just for sex and marriage.
Some of them are our parents, sisters, or colleagues.
Some of them save our lives or invent things we use every day.
No one cares what their (female) surgeon looks like.
I hope not, anyway.


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22 Jul 2024, 10:25 pm

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Dating for women is not like shopping. It’s f*****g hard. It’s just as difficult as it is for men if not more so due to safety concerns.


I didn't say dating for women isn't hard. I say shopping because men socially speaking have to come to women to shoot their shot. It's difficult on women's end because picking the wrong guy has consequences and it's easy to do.


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22 Jul 2024, 10:32 pm

Thanks for telling me what dating is like for women.

It’s difficult “on women’s end” for many possible reasons besides that.