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09 May 2016, 10:04 am

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It reminds me too much of when I was a kid.....and the kids put ME on the "ignore list."


Oh no no...it's not like that kraftie.

The list was only a suggestion to those who had been continuously in conflict with those on the list or been unfairly accused by those on the list on several occasions, its purpose was to stop the fights that happen between the same users.

But it's just that...a suggestion; everyone can make his/her own list.

Again, it is simply a manual foe feature thing.

And btw, most of them agreed with me on this suggestion.


I think it's ironic to go on and on about your secret list publicly while accusing others of stirring drama.



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09 May 2016, 10:05 am

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*shock horror* i don't have a foe list, or an "ignore list" either...cos... i believe in acting my age, not my shoe size :roll:

Agreed. Passing a list through PMs advising which members to "ignore" is primary school behaviour.



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09 May 2016, 10:14 am

Anway....let's go back on topic.



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09 May 2016, 10:15 am

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I believe Sly got flack from at least a couple people about things he said in the haven.


I think it would be helpful if the "Active Discussions" list included the name of the forum for each thread. I've noticed quite a few people (myself included) get drawn in by interesting titles and follow the link, then end up replying without even noticing what forum the discussion is in. Since the rules and tone can vary considerably from forum to forum, it can cause problems.



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09 May 2016, 10:15 am

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The thing is, I have decided to adopt a zero interaction policy with some users (regardless of gender may I say) whom, in my opinion, seek for drama over trivial, little things and give me moral lectures over things which are....trivial (and so what If I call a content in a post nonsense? This is my opinion about the post), and worse of all, accusing me of things which are from their own projections.


As you've just used this "policy" against Boofle, this post is clearly referencing her and is a personal attack.


I don't want to speak with you.

Please let's ignore each other.



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09 May 2016, 10:24 am

YippySkippy wrote:
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I believe Sly got flack from at least a couple people about things he said in the haven.


I think it would be helpful if the "Active Discussions" list included the name of the forum for each thread. I've noticed quite a few people (myself included) get drawn in by interesting titles and follow the link, then end up replying without even noticing what forum the discussion is in. Since the rules and tone can vary considerably from forum to forum, it can cause problems.


i've also been caught out :oops:

great idea!




@Marshall... :heart: ...hang in there...i loved your earlier (and very thoughtful) post and mostly agree...just didn't get chance to reply because i got side tracked.



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09 May 2016, 10:26 am

marshall wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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It reminds me too much of when I was a kid.....and the kids put ME on the "ignore list."


Oh no no...it's not like that kraftie.

The list was only a suggestion to those who had been continuously in conflict with those on the list or been unfairly accused by those on the list on several occasions, its purpose was to stop the fights that happen between the same users.

But it's just that...a suggestion; everyone can make his/her own list.

Again, it is simply a manual foe feature thing.

And btw, most of them agreed with me on this suggestion.


I think it's ironic to go on and on about your secret list publicly while accusing others of stirring drama.



Well... leaks happen.



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09 May 2016, 10:31 am

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It seems like there are certain women who take offense to any man expressing anger or frustration over rejection.


The problem is, again, with generalization. These rants are often of the "why do women do X" variety. It is the generalizing that's offensive. And rants belong in The Haven, anyway.

Nope, he wasn't talking about these "why do women do X" rants. Some women really take offense when they shouldn't. They are not many and it doesn't happen so often, but it happens.



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09 May 2016, 10:37 am

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Nope, he wasn't talking about these "why do women do X" rants. Some women really take offense when they shouldn't. They are not many and it doesn't happen so often, but it happens.


As do some men.



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09 May 2016, 10:43 am

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Nope, he wasn't talking about these "why do women do X" rants. Some women really take offense when they shouldn't. They are not many and it doesn't happen so often, but it happens.


As do some men.

Of course, it is obvious. In both cases these people need to stop making drama.



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09 May 2016, 10:43 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
It reminds me too much of when I was a kid.....and the kids put ME on the "ignore list."


Oh no no...it's not like that kraftie.

The list was only a suggestion to those who had been continuously in conflict with those on the list or been unfairly accused by those on the list on several occasions, its purpose was to stop the fights that happen between the same users.

But it's just that...a suggestion; everyone can make his/her own list.

Again, it is simply a manual foe feature thing.

And btw, most of them agreed with me on this suggestion.


I think it's ironic to go on and on about your secret list publicly while accusing others of stirring drama.


Well... leaks happen.


I don't always disagree with your opinions, but I kind of have to side with "the enemy" and say you're coming across as a bit childish.



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09 May 2016, 10:49 am

What are you all still arguing about?

It looks like "he said blah" "she said blah" round and round, baiting and emotional reactions over and over, I think some of you think its just fine to let your lack of internal locus of control/emotional regulation impact on other people negatively, there are at least some members that would like to resolve the L&D issues as part of a bigger picture, but thats not on the point scoring agenda. I made some suggestions as well as identify the issues, and now I'm out. :D



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09 May 2016, 10:54 am

Peacesells wrote:
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It seems like there are certain women who take offense to any man expressing anger or frustration over rejection.


The problem is, again, with generalization. These rants are often of the "why do women do X" variety. It is the generalizing that's offensive. And rants belong in The Haven, anyway.

Nope, he wasn't talking about these "why do women do X" rants. Some women really take offense when they shouldn't. They are not many and it doesn't happen so often, but it happens.

It isn't clear that everyone gets upset for the exact same reasons. There are at least at least a couple members who seem to be triggered by almost any kind of male frustration, like it is a slippery-slope to abuse or even rape. You can tell because they often respond by accusing the male of being "entitled". At least that's how it seems to me.



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09 May 2016, 10:55 am

marshall wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
marshall wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
It reminds me too much of when I was a kid.....and the kids put ME on the "ignore list."


Oh no no...it's not like that kraftie.

The list was only a suggestion to those who had been continuously in conflict with those on the list or been unfairly accused by those on the list on several occasions, its purpose was to stop the fights that happen between the same users.

But it's just that...a suggestion; everyone can make his/her own list.

Again, it is simply a manual foe feature thing.

And btw, most of them agreed with me on this suggestion.


I think it's ironic to go on and on about your secret list publicly while accusing others of stirring drama.


Well... leaks happen.


I don't always disagree with your opinions, but I kind of have to side with "the enemy" and say you're coming across as a bit childish.


I agree, I don't act my age online, that would be... boring. :lol:

Getting offended over little things and putting words in mouths is way more childish tho, don't you think? (I don't mean you, you never did that as far as I remember).
Even you have predicted that your long post would be attacked, so I am sure you know that I have a point, we both experienced that firsthand.



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09 May 2016, 10:57 am

Amity wrote:
What are you all still arguing about?

It looks like "he said blah" "she said blah" round and round, baiting and emotional reactions over and over, I think some of you think its just fine to let your lack of internal locus of control/emotional regulation impact on other people negatively, there are at least some members that would like to resolve the L&D issues as part of a bigger picture, but thats not on the point scoring agenda. I made some suggestions as well as identify the issues, and now I'm out. :D


Let me take your hand, pull me out of here. ;__;



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09 May 2016, 11:01 am

marshall wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
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It seems like there are certain women who take offense to any man expressing anger or frustration over rejection.


The problem is, again, with generalization. These rants are often of the "why do women do X" variety. It is the generalizing that's offensive. And rants belong in The Haven, anyway.

Nope, he wasn't talking about these "why do women do X" rants. Some women really take offense when they shouldn't. They are not many and it doesn't happen so often, but it happens.

It isn't clear that everyone gets upset for the exact same reasons. There are at least at least a couple members who seem to be triggered by almost any kind of male frustration, like it is a slippery-slope to abuse or even rape. You can tell because they often respond by accusing the male of being "entitled". At least that's how it seems to me.

Yes. Anyway both them and the annoying guys are not so many, so I don't see any serious issues with this section.