Living with parents kind of puts the kibosh on dating?

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26 Jul 2018, 12:53 am

I genuinely think goldfish is trying to help.
Bea is not, she just wants to mock.



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26 Jul 2018, 4:46 am

goldfish21 wrote:
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And how your daughter was paying for this affordable one bedroom apartment before having a boyfriend? Did she have a job?


My other gripe is the fact that for women, its still seen as far more acceptable for them to be a parasite of some sort, whether its on their family, boyfriend, or husband. Why? Because they have body parts that 94% of men desire? Seems a pretty BS reason.


Now c’mon RainbowUnion, be fair here.. if Bea had a hot young twink son with a desirable bussy, some sugar daddy might pay for his keep, too.


Yeah, but thats far, far, far less common and you know it. Its also not seen as socialiy acceptable, whereas the other one is.


All true.

Women want equality until its time to pay the bills, then they expect to be looked after. Even if they were expected to pay a 35% share (70% of half, seeing as women are paid 70% of what men are, on average, for the same jobs) most wouldn’t want to & expect gender roles to carry on.


I’m glad you said “not all women” because a mentally ill woman with several disabilities who works extensively hard, 40+ hours to scrape by finds it a tad offensive that you would say such a thing.

Seriously do you people even live? Where is this magical world where women don’t work full time to keep themselves alive??



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26 Jul 2018, 5:01 am

hale_bopp wrote:
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And how your daughter was paying for this affordable one bedroom apartment before having a boyfriend? Did she have a job?


My other gripe is the fact that for women, its still seen as far more acceptable for them to be a parasite of some sort, whether its on their family, boyfriend, or husband. Why? Because they have body parts that 94% of men desire? Seems a pretty BS reason.


Now c’mon RainbowUnion, be fair here.. if Bea had a hot young twink son with a desirable bussy, some sugar daddy might pay for his keep, too.


Yeah, but thats far, far, far less common and you know it. Its also not seen as socialiy acceptable, whereas the other one is.


All true.

Women want equality until its time to pay the bills, then they expect to be looked after. Even if they were expected to pay a 35% share (70% of half, seeing as women are paid 70% of what men are, on average, for the same jobs) most wouldn’t want to & expect gender roles to carry on.


I’m glad you said “not all women” because a mentally ill woman with several disabilities who works extensively hard, 40+ hours to scrape by finds it a tad offensive that you would say such a thing.

Seriously do you people even live? Where is this magical world where women don’t work full time to keep themselves alive??


Many men seem to get in relationships with these exploitative borderline types, then defensively think all women are like that. Of course, many men are just as lazy and exploitative, and many women are hardworking and accountable.



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26 Jul 2018, 5:29 am

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You know, there's a way to exploit that desire without any BS and without making anyone pay for it other than the men enjoying those body parts (or the full body, or even more than that) under the terms agreed to freely with their owner. No parasitism involved. Unfortunately, we like to give that transaction ugly names, to outlaw it, making it unnecessarily dangerous, and to let our blood boil if someone suggests a relative of ours might engage in it.


That's still a form of parasitism IMO, but I agree that it should be legal, and seen as a legit profession.


Why do you think it's parasitism?

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She got government to pay for it. Though housing usually only pays 75% of rent. I guessing maybe her daughter is on disability. All such things are fine with women, but for men makes you a worthless unlovable loser.


What do you want to do about that? Force women to date men they dislike, to the point that they prefer to be alone rather than with them? Brainwash them? Everyone has a right to their own standards. If those things are okay in women, but not in men, it's because men don't care about them, but women do. Either be what women want or accept they won't want anything to do with you.

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Because the thinking is that she can marry a doctor, lawyer, etc, ie a MAN who will set her up.


If that thinking is commonplace, it's because they often can marry such men, so why would they settle for less?

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In my country (note: a middle eastern country), unmarried and unemployment daughters have the right to continue recieving the retirement income of their highest earning deceased parents for life *regardless of age and health condition*, unless they get married.
Sons can’t unless: 1) they’re less than 18 but it stops once they’re 18.
2) it’s confirmed by a medical committe of having a disability (note. only very serious conditions like down syndome, advanced cancer or being handicaped; things like AS or HDD aren’t even viewed as disabilities here)

You can imagine how many unmarried daughters would prefer to remain unemployed and receive retirement income later which would be higher than low paid entry jobs.


I also imagine a lot of men think that's a good thing, because it prevents those women from competing with men for jobs. Am I wrong? Isn't it so cool to perpetuate cycles of dependence, general backwardness and lack of personal freedom? :D


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26 Jul 2018, 6:30 am

Women routinely marry older guys for a better financial situation.

But, men of all ages go for younger women. It takes time for anyone to establish themselves
financially, except for the unicorns that were born wealthy.



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26 Jul 2018, 8:27 am

Spiderpig wrote:
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You know, there's a way to exploit that desire without any BS and without making anyone pay for it other than the men enjoying those body parts (or the full body, or even more than that) under the terms agreed to freely with their owner. No parasitism involved. Unfortunately, we like to give that transaction ugly names, to outlaw it, making it unnecessarily dangerous, and to let our blood boil if someone suggests a relative of ours might engage in it.


That's still a form of parasitism IMO, but I agree that it should be legal, and seen as a legit profession.


Why do you think it's parasitism?

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She got government to pay for it. Though housing usually only pays 75% of rent. I guessing maybe her daughter is on disability. All such things are fine with women, but for men makes you a worthless unlovable loser.


What do you want to do about that? Force women to date men they dislike, to the point that they prefer to be alone rather than with them? Brainwash them? Everyone has a right to their own standards. If those things are okay in women, but not in men, it's because men don't care about them, but women do. Either be what women want or accept they won't want anything to do with you.

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Because the thinking is that she can marry a doctor, lawyer, etc, ie a MAN who will set her up.


If that thinking is commonplace, it's because they often can marry such men, so why would they settle for less?

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
In my country (note: a middle eastern country), unmarried and unemployment daughters have the right to continue recieving the retirement income of their highest earning deceased parents for life *regardless of age and health condition*, unless they get married.
Sons can’t unless: 1) they’re less than 18 but it stops once they’re 18.
2) it’s confirmed by a medical committe of having a disability (note. only very serious conditions like down syndome, advanced cancer or being handicaped; things like AS or HDD aren’t even viewed as disabilities here)

You can imagine how many unmarried daughters would prefer to remain unemployed and receive retirement income later which would be higher than low paid entry jobs.


I also imagine a lot of men think that's a good thing, because it prevents those women from competing with men for jobs. Am I wrong? Isn't it so cool to perpetuate cycles of dependence, general backwardness and lack of personal freedom? :D



Not really, when it comes to entry jobs and some fields, women win in the job market.

Employers here have no shame to specify the gender in job ads.

A sample:

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Junior Accountants are often females for example and employers specify it in ads - a male accountant or HR graduate would have a very hard time to find his first job.



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26 Jul 2018, 8:44 am

^Wow, boo, that would be illegal discrimination here. Employers do discriminate all the time, but they’re not allowed to specify a preferred gender in a job ad. The closest it gets in job ads is “Punjabi speaking preferred,” or “Must speak Chinese/Cantonese/Mandarin.” Etc


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26 Jul 2018, 8:51 am

What percentage of the people in Lebanon speak French, speak English, speak both?

In Canada, for federal civil service jobs, people must speak both French and English fluently.

There are quite a few jobs in New York City which requires one to be bilingual----Spanish/English bilingualism is especially desired. The fact of my English-only proficiency decreased my options when I was searching for a second job.



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26 Jul 2018, 9:07 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I genuinely think goldfish is trying to help.
Bea is not, she just wants to mock.


Thanks for that, boo. It’s accurate. I may argue with sly at times, but I don’t think I really argue with him - it’s more that I argue with his depression and sometimes get frustrated by it. He reminds me of how I used to be years ago and so I do feel for him. I do not dislike sly. Hell, ask sly about the pm I sent him when I first returned to the forum several months ago - I asked if he had over gotten that backyard beehive he wanted. (Because I can’t keep bees where I live, but if he could I’d have bought him one to help save the bees And give sly a valuable hobby.)

And yes, Bea has been quite cruel to sly and others in this thread so I’ve called her out on it as I do elsewhere and in real life. Admittedly, I am biased against her for her past behaviour and so I won’t tolerate her rudeness to others one bit and Will defend those she is unpleasant to.


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26 Jul 2018, 10:21 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Not really, when it comes to entry jobs and some fields, women win in the job market.

Employers here have no shame to specify the gender in job ads.

A sample:

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Junior Accountants are often females for example and employers specify it in ads - a male accountant or HR graduate would have a very hard time to find his first job.


But if there were more women in the workforce, the competition would be even greater for men. Are you really saying it isn't widely resented? You know, like so many people resent having to compete with immigrants.


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26 Jul 2018, 10:53 am

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People seem to just have sex at parks and the schools here

Used to do that as a teenager. And when visiting my future mother-in-law out of town. My husband was her “baby”. I think she would have had a fit if we had tried to sleep together in her home. I was around 35 and he was 40. Discretion is a virtue! :D


You've mentioned at least having a son. Out of curiosity, did you take any measures to prevent him from as much as dreaming of doing what you did as a teenager? Of course, if he's anything like the typical autistic man, it may have been unnecessary. Do you have any daughters? What about them? Do you think they should be strictly forbidden to date, and their male peers scared away from them, for as long as possible, perhaps till they're thirty?


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26 Jul 2018, 10:57 am

Spiderpig wrote:
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People seem to just have sex at parks and the schools here

Used to do that as a teenager. And when visiting my future mother-in-law out of town. My husband was her “baby”. I think she would have had a fit if we had tried to sleep together in her home. I was around 35 and he was 40. Discretion is a virtue! :D


You've mentioned at least having a son. Out of curiosity, did you take any measures to prevent him from as much as dreaming of doing what you did as a teenager? Of course, if he's anything like the typical autistic man, it may have been unnecessary. Do you have any daughters? What about them? Do you think they should be strictly forbidden to date, and their male peers scared away from them, for as long as possible, perhaps till they're thirty?

You see, you need to understand that not everyone in the world is crazy or has crazy parents.



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26 Jul 2018, 11:20 am

Spiderpig seems to have a fascination with WP members’ teenaged daughters.

Sex with minors is against the law. I’d suggest targeting women who DON’T need parental permission to leave the house. Women who have their OWN place are your safest bet. I would set aside these pedophile fantasies for something with an actual future.

You can also get picked up for meddling with disabled women who are technically of age but lack the mental capacity for consent. There was one recent WP member who, as it turns out, was being catfished and possibly groomed. She was bent out of shape because of how her parents reacted but, as it turns out, they were actually right.

Nothing good can come out of a discussion about sex with minors. Adults discussing consensual sex with minors in such a way as to suggest adults should actually be able to have sex with children is, well...it’s a little creepy.



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26 Jul 2018, 11:33 am

AngelRho wrote:
Spiderpig seems to have a fascination with WP members’ teenaged daughters.

Sex with minors is against the law. I’d suggest targeting women who DON’T need parental permission to leave the house. Women who have their OWN place are your safest bet. I would set aside these pedophile fantasies for something with an actual future.

You can also get picked up for meddling with disabled women who are technically of age but lack the mental capacity for consent. There was one recent WP member who, as it turns out, was being catfished and possibly groomed. She was bent out of shape because of how her parents reacted but, as it turns out, they were actually right.

Nothing good can come out of a discussion about sex with minors. Adults discussing consensual sex with minors in such a way as to suggest adults should actually be able to have sex with children is, well...it’s a little creepy.

I would suggest thinking about it twice before accusing some of the forum people of such filthy things. I'd delete your post if I were you or apologize.



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26 Jul 2018, 11:46 am

Spiderpig wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Not really, when it comes to entry jobs and some fields, women win in the job market.

Employers here have no shame to specify the gender in job ads.

A sample:

Image

Junior Accountants are often females for example and employers specify it in ads - a male accountant or HR graduate would have a very hard time to find his first job.


But if there were more women in the workforce, the competition would be even greater for men. Are you really saying it isn't widely resented? You know, like so many people resent having to compete with immigrants.


Of course, no one loves competition that endagers your survival.



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26 Jul 2018, 11:48 am

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^Wow, boo, that would be illegal discrimination here. Employers do discriminate all the time, but they’re not allowed to specify a preferred gender in a job ad. The closest it gets in job ads is “Punjabi speaking preferred,” or “Must speak Chinese/Cantonese/Mandarin.” Etc


Multinational and large companies don’t do this anywhere because they’re being audited for such matters; but small private companies don’t give a sh-t.
I bet they do it too in Canada but far more discretly.