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11 Apr 2018, 5:10 pm

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Yes and you’d think they would be, but actually due to them being poor they want a well off man more then other women. Similar to women who live at home and work min wage. Honestly realistically it makes more sense a well of woman who doesn’t need income or a car would be more accepting.

I would disagree. A well-off woman would probably feel she deserves a well-off man. Some of the women on this forum already mentioned the fact that well-off women may want to do things that require money with their SO and not have to flip the bill all the time because he can't afford it. You may say 'well they don't need to do things that cost money' which is true, but as hard-working women they may feel like they've earned it, so whether they need it or not is irrelevant if they have the means to make it happen.

Well-off men are more lenient with less well-off women because if that woman isn't working or works much fewer hours, she can still add value by assuming the 'housewife' role. Though househusbands are more common than ever nowadays, I don't think many couples meet under circumstances where the man is expected to take on the househusband role. Seems to me when that does happen it tends to be after the couple's been dating for a while and either the man loses his job or the woman wants to step it up with her career.


And what’s that to do what I said? I said from a logical point of view. A well off woman has everything she need money and car wise. She could logical be with a guy who doesn’t and be fine. A poor woman doesn’t have what she needs money and car wise and is therefore needs to find a man to provide her them. So if a poor woman needs money and a car will she more likely go for a well off guy who owns a car or a poor guy who rides the bus? Who’s going fulfill her needs? It’s not rocket science. A well off woman if she dated a poor man would still have her money and car and be able to do all the things she could before. Dating a poor man wouldn’t need to have any effect on her life other then having company.

Men want company, so they accept a poor woman who won’t make them richer but won’t set them back either. Most men don’t care about their partners status or income. They probably care about her looks. There’s plenty of nonhouswife unemployed or part time women who don’t do much house work or still spit it with the guy
The Whole housewife lifestyle is dying and not many people do it anymore.
Why will a man who’s well off date a woman who works full time min wage, but a well off woman will only date a man who makes the same or more as her?



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11 Apr 2018, 5:19 pm

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Are we back to arguing about whether or not having a little money to spend is an unreasonable thing to expect in a mate?

Let me bring this to a conclusion once and for all. It's not.


In your opinion.

Most men couldn't care less about a partners earning potential.


If a woman likes to do things that cost money. I fail to see how it's "unreasonable" to want a man who can at least pay his own way.

I've known several men who had no interest in supporting a woman, and I didn't see their preference as "unreasonable."


Is ok for said women to call men worthless, not real men, childish, unlovable?
And many other slurs and insults?
Society has said it’s not ok for men to out down fat women. Society worked hard to make being a fat woman ok, and today most fat women have relationships. They wouldn’t have in the 60s-80s. Society can be changed. We could change society to not belittle poor men and one day women will be ok dating poor men. I believe women don’t want poor men out of society saying they had more then it actually having to do with lyfatyle choice. Why should a min wage woman need a well off man to live a lifestyle she can’t afford?

Oh you now a few men who care. Oh snap that must men most men care, oh wait, no most men don’t care about providing for a woman who makes less then them. It’s the norm. Men are told to be a real man they have to. Many men feel de masculated (according to women) when their gf or wife makes more then them. There’s tons of man videos and magazines that enforce this. We need to change it as a society.
Maybe we’d have less single parents and fatherless kids.

Your acceptance of it makes it seem hopeless for men like me, like we better off dead. Only plus side is most women are monogamous so they be alone forever too.



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11 Apr 2018, 6:23 pm

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Why will a man who’s well off date a woman who works full time min wage, but a well off woman will only date a man who makes the same or more as her?

I can't answer for all women, obviously, but I personally prefer to date someone with a similar income as me, as I've found that big differences can cause uncomfortable power imbalances in the relationship.

I'd guess there are probably more men who are happy to have more power, and women who are happy for their male partner to have more power, than the other way around.



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11 Apr 2018, 8:14 pm

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Why will a man who’s well off date a woman who works full time min wage, but a well off woman will only date a man who makes the same or more as her?

I can't answer for all women, obviously, but I personally prefer to date someone with a similar income as me, as I've found that big differences can cause uncomfortable power imbalances in the relationship.

I'd guess there are probably more men who are happy to have more power, and women who are happy for their male partner to have more power, than the other way around.

Just cause it can doesn’t mean it will or must.
You could just not think making more money makes you in charge or in power.
So there’s no hope for me at all or men like me. Poor men are just doomed.



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11 Apr 2018, 8:22 pm

It's not easy for poor men----that's for sure.

But I don't believe they are "doomed."

There are women out there who are not materialistic, who don't care too much how much a guy "makes," or whether or not he has a car. I've met plenty of these women.

It's probably easier in a place with decent public transportation and parking problems.



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11 Apr 2018, 11:28 pm

sly279 wrote:
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Why will a man who’s well off date a woman who works full time min wage, but a well off woman will only date a man who makes the same or more as her?

I can't answer for all women, obviously, but I personally prefer to date someone with a similar income as me, as I've found that big differences can cause uncomfortable power imbalances in the relationship.

I'd guess there are probably more men who are happy to have more power, and women who are happy for their male partner to have more power, than the other way around.

Just cause it can doesn’t mean it will or must.
You could just not think making more money makes you in charge or in power.
So there’s no hope for me at all or men like me. Poor men are just doomed.

It can create a dynamic of imbalance whether you think it should or not. I certainly wasn't expecting it to happen when it happened to me, but it did. So I would prefer to date someone with a modest income, like me, not someone raking it in like my ex was.

That's preference, though. Doesn't mean I wouldn't consider it again.



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12 Apr 2018, 12:53 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
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Why will a man who’s well off date a woman who works full time min wage, but a well off woman will only date a man who makes the same or more as her?

I can't answer for all women, obviously, but I personally prefer to date someone with a similar income as me, as I've found that big differences can cause uncomfortable power imbalances in the relationship.

I'd guess there are probably more men who are happy to have more power, and women who are happy for their male partner to have more power, than the other way around.

Just cause it can doesn’t mean it will or must.
You could just not think making more money makes you in charge or in power.
So there’s no hope for me at all or men like me. Poor men are just doomed.

It can create a dynamic of imbalance whether you think it should or not. I certainly wasn't expecting it to happen when it happened to me, but it did. So I would prefer to date someone with a modest income, like me, not someone raking it in like my ex was.

That's preference, though. Doesn't mean I wouldn't consider it again.


Why?
She could put in equal money as me then spend rest on herself.
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12 Apr 2018, 12:56 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
It's not easy for poor men----that's for sure.

But I don't believe they are "doomed."

There are women out there who are not materialistic, who don't care too much how much a guy "makes," or whether or not he has a car. I've met plenty of these women.

It's probably easier in a place with decent public transportation and parking problems.


My area has one of the best public transportation systems in the nation. They were ranked 1 or top 10 at one point. I remember they bragged about it and out it on the buses and schedule books.
But women here don’t care.they prefer a guy with a truck but he has to atleast have a car.

The ones who are all seem to already be in relationships.



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12 Apr 2018, 1:00 am

sly279 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
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Why will a man who’s well off date a woman who works full time min wage, but a well off woman will only date a man who makes the same or more as her?

I can't answer for all women, obviously, but I personally prefer to date someone with a similar income as me, as I've found that big differences can cause uncomfortable power imbalances in the relationship.

I'd guess there are probably more men who are happy to have more power, and women who are happy for their male partner to have more power, than the other way around.

Just cause it can doesn’t mean it will or must.
You could just not think making more money makes you in charge or in power.
So there’s no hope for me at all or men like me. Poor men are just doomed.

It can create a dynamic of imbalance whether you think it should or not. I certainly wasn't expecting it to happen when it happened to me, but it did. So I would prefer to date someone with a modest income, like me, not someone raking it in like my ex was.

That's preference, though. Doesn't mean I wouldn't consider it again.


Why?
She could put in equal money as me then spend rest on herself.
:cry:

She might want to pay more to be able to do more, e.g. live in a suburb closer to work. She pays more rent than you - potential power imbalance (the place "feels" more like "hers" which creates a sense of her having more control and power). There's so many other possible examples. And the imbalance thing might not even be an issue. But it might, like it unexpectedly was for me.



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12 Apr 2018, 1:09 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
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Why will a man who’s well off date a woman who works full time min wage, but a well off woman will only date a man who makes the same or more as her?

I can't answer for all women, obviously, but I personally prefer to date someone with a similar income as me, as I've found that big differences can cause uncomfortable power imbalances in the relationship.

I'd guess there are probably more men who are happy to have more power, and women who are happy for their male partner to have more power, than the other way around.

Just cause it can doesn’t mean it will or must.
You could just not think making more money makes you in charge or in power.
So there’s no hope for me at all or men like me. Poor men are just doomed.

It can create a dynamic of imbalance whether you think it should or not. I certainly wasn't expecting it to happen when it happened to me, but it did. So I would prefer to date someone with a modest income, like me, not someone raking it in like my ex was.

That's preference, though. Doesn't mean I wouldn't consider it again.


Was this ex a male or female? And what 'raking it' actually means?



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12 Apr 2018, 1:16 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Why will a man who’s well off date a woman who works full time min wage, but a well off woman will only date a man who makes the same or more as her?

I can't answer for all women, obviously, but I personally prefer to date someone with a similar income as me, as I've found that big differences can cause uncomfortable power imbalances in the relationship.

I'd guess there are probably more men who are happy to have more power, and women who are happy for their male partner to have more power, than the other way around.

Just cause it can doesn’t mean it will or must.
You could just not think making more money makes you in charge or in power.
So there’s no hope for me at all or men like me. Poor men are just doomed.

It can create a dynamic of imbalance whether you think it should or not. I certainly wasn't expecting it to happen when it happened to me, but it did. So I would prefer to date someone with a modest income, like me, not someone raking it in like my ex was.

That's preference, though. Doesn't mean I wouldn't consider it again.


Why?
She could put in equal money as me then spend rest on herself.
:cry:

She might want to pay more to be able to do more, e.g. live in a suburb closer to work. She pays more rent than you - potential power imbalance (the place "feels" more like "hers" which creates a sense of her having more control and power). There's so many other possible examples. And the imbalance thing might not even be an issue. But it might, like it unexpectedly was for me.


Why would we have to live together?



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12 Apr 2018, 1:42 am

sly279 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Why will a man who’s well off date a woman who works full time min wage, but a well off woman will only date a man who makes the same or more as her?

I can't answer for all women, obviously, but I personally prefer to date someone with a similar income as me, as I've found that big differences can cause uncomfortable power imbalances in the relationship.

I'd guess there are probably more men who are happy to have more power, and women who are happy for their male partner to have more power, than the other way around.

Just cause it can doesn’t mean it will or must.
You could just not think making more money makes you in charge or in power.
So there’s no hope for me at all or men like me. Poor men are just doomed.

It can create a dynamic of imbalance whether you think it should or not. I certainly wasn't expecting it to happen when it happened to me, but it did. So I would prefer to date someone with a modest income, like me, not someone raking it in like my ex was.

That's preference, though. Doesn't mean I wouldn't consider it again.


Why?
She could put in equal money as me then spend rest on herself.
:cry:

She might want to pay more to be able to do more, e.g. live in a suburb closer to work. She pays more rent than you - potential power imbalance (the place "feels" more like "hers" which creates a sense of her having more control and power). There's so many other possible examples. And the imbalance thing might not even be an issue. But it might, like it unexpectedly was for me.


Why would we have to live together?

That's where most serious adult relationships lead.



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12 Apr 2018, 1:58 am

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
sly279 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Why will a man who’s well off date a woman who works full time min wage, but a well off woman will only date a man who makes the same or more as her?

I can't answer for all women, obviously, but I personally prefer to date someone with a similar income as me, as I've found that big differences can cause uncomfortable power imbalances in the relationship.

I'd guess there are probably more men who are happy to have more power, and women who are happy for their male partner to have more power, than the other way around.

Just cause it can doesn’t mean it will or must.
You could just not think making more money makes you in charge or in power.
So there’s no hope for me at all or men like me. Poor men are just doomed.

It can create a dynamic of imbalance whether you think it should or not. I certainly wasn't expecting it to happen when it happened to me, but it did. So I would prefer to date someone with a modest income, like me, not someone raking it in like my ex was.

That's preference, though. Doesn't mean I wouldn't consider it again.


Why?
She could put in equal money as me then spend rest on herself.
:cry:

She might want to pay more to be able to do more, e.g. live in a suburb closer to work. She pays more rent than you - potential power imbalance (the place "feels" more like "hers" which creates a sense of her having more control and power). There's so many other possible examples. And the imbalance thing might not even be an issue. But it might, like it unexpectedly was for me.


Why would we have to live together?

That's where most serious adult relationships lead.


Due to my income and being born wrong I don’t see any long term relationship happening. :cry:
I’ll be lucky to get a short term one.
I’ll never live with any woman, take rides form her or accept gifts.

I could probably eventually provide for an unemployed woman if she accepted living in a single bedroom appartment and riding the bus. But it doesn’t seem such women exist.



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12 Apr 2018, 2:22 am

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Why would we have to live together?

You wouldn't. It was an example.



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12 Apr 2018, 2:24 am

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Was this ex a male or female? And what 'raking it' actually means?

Female. Which makes no difference to me but I get that I'm different to the norm.
'Raking it in' means making lots of money.



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12 Apr 2018, 6:02 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Was this ex a male or female? And what 'raking it' actually means?

Female. Which makes no difference to me but I get that I'm different to the norm.
'Raking it in' means making lots of money.



And she left you because you don't make enough?