DataSage’s Alpha Male Guide to Meeting Women (JULY UPDATE!!)

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I know a good sadomasochism bar for you!

What, is "data sage", Mystery or something?

If you are an alpha male then you are an alpha male and if you aren't then you will never be. Data Sage isn't an alpha male just because he has discovered how to manipulate women. There are genuinely guys who could give a s**t less about getting laid and are more focused on their career or creating something. This is the true alpha male. You can't fake that s**t and women are smart enough to detect it, well, the elite women will detect it. Asperettes will defintely detect it. Be yourself. IF you aren't an alpha male, don't fake it.

i heart this philosphy.

honestly, a guy who is confidently *himself* is way sexier than an alpha male type. expertise/knowledge and confidence are sexy, at least to this aspie female - not alpha-male style arrogance. by confidence, i mean a male who accepts himself for who he is, and doesn't try to force the upper hand.

alpha males come across as jerks to me in real life, and i don't like that at all.

WOW..

I really should have used my better judgement and stayed out of this thread. I honestly thought it was some individuals sense of humour.
I read the first post a couple times and what others had to say, before I realised it was actually being taken seriously

I was thinking some of those very same questions.




Guys I have known compared them to Harley motorcycles - Wanted because of the label/trade mark, expensive, noisy and high cost of maintenance



Please do..

Sorry.. kinda long, but lumping all females under one label is just not right.
Same with thinking that all males that are not silverbacks will try to be silverbacks.. thats wrong..

/me looks at the comment
/me looks at the name
/me looks at the comment
/me looks at the title
/me *sighs*

Hi I understand your the owner/creator/developer of WP.. great site thanks..
But I have NO clue what your like, or how well you take someone disagreeing with you.
Why did you have to be the first person to say 'Females are programmed'?
I am sorry, but personally I find that such a generalised statement, it is disturbing in a way, since it came from a person that created a site that I think is to show and allow other individuals differences.. not lump everyone together.

1st - I am very much a female
2nd - I am not, nor have I ever been 'programmed' to seek out alpha males (or as I see them, silverbacks)
3rd - You used the term 'most animals' .. are programmed.. Well, if we all acted like most animals, and how they are programmed -
I think the world would be a lot more open minded place, and very sexually free.

- Human Females - in general, seek, want crave the monogamous relationships
- Human Males - in general, do not seek nor wish for a monogamous relationship - they tend to 'settle down' when 'older', but most still look/fantasise

- other species - in the wildlife kingdom, there are only a handful of monogamous species - maybe 6 or 7 from what I recall..
and how many species are there?
- in the wildlife kingdom, females species, have been known to, have sex with males, females their uncles, aunts, cousins and their own offspring/children etc.. etc...
- in the wildlife kingdom - some are born hermaphrodites, some male, some female
If a male dog or female for that matter, decides to mount another of the same sex, do you think the other animals call them gay or lesbians?
- The bonobos have sexual games they play -

The King of the Jungle - The proud Lion - some say the best example of the qualities of an Alpha Male

- this is the best example of the lion matting ritual I have ever read



Does that sound very Alpha male to anyone?


Sorry for the rant at you Alex, but, generalising really gets to me.

/me goes and waits her punishment

Yay, Surya!

errmm thanks.
I was starting to think I scared everyone away from this.. thread, while they all waited and watched for my punishment.

I have a small issue with my mouth - but if something ain't right in my eyes, I say so.

There were some decent points made by the OP, but as an Aspie who also tries to consider himself a gentlemen, there would be absolutely NO WAY I could even fathom talking to a woman like that.

Now as an Aspie I do understand that I do lack in the area of picking up on social cues and what have not, and if anywhere, that might be the only area in which I found this post remotely helpful.

Randy

Surya just destroyed everything that the douchebag creator said.

Surya's got balls!

Lol, I'm not implying you have male genitalia in any respect. I looooove yoooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuu! XD

Yeah, I don't like the "alpha dog" type. They seem too aggressive for my liking and I'm kinda passive. I like the nerdy/geeky type, they're adorably awkward (like me!). Granted, there are some cocky nerds but a decent portion of them aren't.

Personally, I would like a guide for Aspie women that would like to meet someone. We don't have it easy either!

This is false. Nobody is born an Alpha Male. It's a matter of moving up the ranks.

Thread creator brings up strong, excellent points. These will work and are in tune with those "seduction guides" you see in magazines and popular bookstores.

The flaw with it, however, is the dishonesty and emptiness of the technique. One can replicate it and it'll work on many women, especially ones with low self-esteem, but it WON'T lead to any meaningful relationships, something many aspies desire.

The reason lies in it being based off of nothing. It's good for conversations but because the relationship isn't based on the natural feeling you would gain, say, if you met someone through sharing interest in the same novel in a book club.

That being said, it's effective for what it is. Too effective. And this will just turn some women off, especially those independent, strong women deemed worthwhile relationship partners and who aren't easily swooned by pick-up artists.

^this.

been trying to say the same thing in various other threads on this tpoic, but never so eloquently.

I don't like guys that are high up on the social ladder, I prefer the less popular ones because they're more on my wavelength. And these "alpha" types mentioned in this thread are nob heads anyway because they think they're the bees knees with ther big posse of friends that worship them.
I think the whole "women tend to go for the more high up men" thing would apply more to the women that are also very high up socially.

I like stereotypical girly girls to a Mercedes, BMW, or even a VW - high maintenance but have soul, desire and fun unlike a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord. I liken AS guys - people like me to the Toyota Prius, Honda Insight or a Saab. We're too weird, quirky and unlike our sexier VW TDI competitors, ugly to the regular eye. NT men would be compared to a Harley or a lifted Ford F250 diesel. Loud, obnoxious, loves to show off.

Anyways, back to seriousness, I think pickup lines and acting like a douchebag is simply the wrong way to engage the opposite sex. My long time friend from elementary school is a "player" so to speak, but he's smooth and instead of pickup lines he just engages using normal conversations. If we aspies can get out of our shells and manage to strike common ground with the opposite sex, I think we won't have that difficult of time - but the underlying issue is our lack of social training. I think if I can get into a couple of mock dates with a professional there to provide critique, I can certainly learn the ropes...

This Cocky-funny phenomenon that seems so confusing to a lot of folks is really not that bad

when done properly it comes off as a sort of sarcasm. Its funny cause its not serious. Just playful

Life is a matter of tension and release. Thats how succesful conversation works

You tell a girl shes pretty and thats the end of the conversation. What else is there to say? Shes probably heard it a thousand times anyway.
Tell a girl shes ugly in a playful manner and she will argue back in a playful manner. This is how you build tension. The better the tension the better the release

You can be perfectly respectful about it