24 Jul 2015, 2:49 am
24 Jul 2015, 2:54 am
24 Jul 2015, 2:56 am
sly279 wrote:
mind game example. liking a guy , but telling him, you hate him. flirting with him but anytime he talks to you insulting him and saying you hate him. . no thanks. or wanting one thing but doing another thing. thats not playful playful is playing tag, hide and seek, being silly, making forts, gooffing off etc with your spouse. I don't play mind games. but I am very playful.
Why so negative about mind games? The other thread about a girl that flirted in various ways to get the attention of a guy has better examples: Air kisses, plays with hair while giggling, offering massage and playing footsie. To that I can add testing if a guy is exclusive and setting up meetings. Mind games are only negative and scary if the girl is teasing you and don't like you, in which case it really isn't mind games but more like bullying.
sly279 wrote:
I don't want a ND girl. they aren't very nice and cuddly.
What a terrible generalization.
By claiming you don't want a ND girl, and simultaneously claiming you want a playful girl in her teens you can marry, you basically have setup something that never will happen. That's not because girls are awful, but because of your requirements.
24 Jul 2015, 3:05 am
sly279 wrote:
only what I've noticed from thousands of women in my area. polling 500 people is enough to give a good idea of peoples opinions on something fora state or national level according to many groups. so thousands of women out of 6 thousand should be pretty good data for my area.
You mean online, and without actually meeting them? Why do you think that says anything about how these women are?
sly279 wrote:
how does it restrict my chances with women who won't even talk to me?
They won't talk to you because you seek them online, where girls are rare and guys are plentiful, so they have massive requirements in order to sort out most of the guys. That has nothing to do with how they are in real life if you meet them in a more ordinary context.
sly279 wrote:
I've also only met in person , one woman who is kinda playful. the rest have all been super serious.
Of course. If you are on dating site, it's assumed you want a serious relationship, unless it is a hook-up site only for sex and one-night-stands.
24 Jul 2015, 3:11 am
24 Jul 2015, 3:20 am
24 Jul 2015, 3:24 am
sly279 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
I don't want a ND girl. they aren't very nice and cuddly.
sly279 wrote:
most women though aren't and don't want a playful guy.
No wonder you struggle to find a decent girl who likes you, when you have these opinions of them. You want an NT woman who is playful and wants a playful partner, and you believe there are very few of these. Your views on women really do restrict your options and chances.
only what I've noticed from thousands of women in my area. polling 500 people is enough to give a good idea of peoples opinions on something fora state or national level according to many groups. so thousands of women out of 6 thousand should be pretty good data for my area.
how does it restrict my chances with women who won't even talk to me?
I've also only met in person , one woman who is kinda playful. the rest have all been super serious.
Random sample is required. Thousands of women in the same places (i.e. you observe them only at the places you go) is very unlikely to bring you a random sample.
However you have done it is clearly insufficient, though, as it has led you to conclude that neurodiverse women "aren't very nice and cuddly", which is just offensive. I'm sure many on this site would protest. Don't take my word for it, my partner says I'm very nice and cuddly!
And before you go ahead and say "but you're different to most women", yeah, so what? I wouldn't date most women either. The "typical" woman is not my cup of tea at all. But I know that there ARE more compatible people, even if they are the minority. I wouldn't rule out neurodiverse women as a whole, that would be a tragic overgeneralisation.(edited typos)
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24 Jul 2015, 3:26 am
24 Jul 2015, 3:28 am
24 Jul 2015, 3:33 am
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
I don't want a ND girl. they aren't very nice and cuddly.
sly279 wrote:
most women though aren't and don't want a playful guy.
No wonder you struggle to find a decent girl who likes you, when you have these opinions of them. You want an NT woman who is playful and wants a playful partner, and you believe there are very few of these. Your views on women really do restrict your options and chances.
only what I've noticed from thousands of women in my area. polling 500 people is enough to give a good idea of peoples opinions on something fora state or national level according to many groups. so thousands of women out of 6 thousand should be pretty good data for my area.
how does it restrict my chances with women who won't even talk to me?
I've also only met in person , one woman who is kinda playful. the rest have all been super serious.
Random sample is required. Thousands of women in the same places (i.e. you observe them only at the places you go) is very unlikely to bring you a random sample.
However you have done it is clearly insufficient, though, as it has led you to conclude that neurodiverse women "aren't very nice and cuddly", which is just offensive. I'm sure many on this site would protest. Don't take my word for it, my partner says I'm very nice and cuddly!
And before you go ahead and say "but you're different to most women", yeah, so what? I wouldn't date most women either. The "typical" woman is not my cup of tea at all. But I know that there ARE more compatible people, even if they are the minority. I wouldn't rule out neurodiverse women as a whole, that would be a tragic overgeneralisation.(edited typos)
well thers not a lot of ND women in my area, and the ones I met were quite rude. I really don't think ND and NT's are that different. other then social issues. which as I found out means NDS can be quite rude. didn't say rule out said I wouldn't want to date them, ie I'm not going to specifically seek out ND women anymore. I'm not one to rule out anyone without talking to them and giving it a try. but ND are so spread out. I met one that was nice but she lives so very far away a relationship was impossible, she moved on as she should and is happy with a guy now. reality is nts are more common and so more likely to be met. decrease that to NDS who are rare then add that like nt's they can be just as picky when it comes to other issues and it gets even harder.
24 Jul 2015, 3:36 am
Peacesells wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Peacesells wrote:
When you say polling, do you mean writing to them on dating sites? These women receive a ton of messages everyday, it's only natural that most of them behave like that.
dating sites, ad sites, in person.
I don't by the they say one thing and do another. that has not been what I've seen. if anything they would list wanting playful guy then lure him and and do a bait in switch and demand he stop being playful and childish. that would open up their options.
When you say in person, you mean from dating sites?
Anyway there are many ways of being playful and childish, some of them are not nice at all. I would say that dating sites are terrible for dating.
no I mean women from work, gaming, airsoft, college etc. while I don't meet them in a dating sense. I still meet women, talk to bunch and overhear conversations from others.
mind games aren't playful. playful is a positive word. do you ever here people when talking about youths and use the word playful as bad? or with cats and dogs. besides with adult people playful only has a good meaning. I think its horrible that with adults its a negative.
bit tired of women telling me i need to grow up.
24 Jul 2015, 3:41 am
24 Jul 2015, 3:44 am
sly279 wrote:
mind games aren't playful. playful is a positive word. do you ever here people when talking about youths and use the word playful as bad? or with cats and dogs. besides with adult people playful only has a good meaning. I think its horrible that with adults its a negative. bit tired of women telling me i need to grow up.
bit tired of women telling me i need to grow up.Depends, it can also be not positive. For example you don't act playful at a funeral. or maybe these women just on't like your way of being playful.
Moreover if you say that you don't want a responsible/serious relationship but want a teenagish one, it's just natural that they will tell you to grow up.
24 Jul 2015, 3:55 am
24 Jul 2015, 4:13 am
Peacesells wrote:
sly279 wrote:
no . one is doomed to never get the teenage relationship. you could still though unlikely get married and have kids ans have an responsible/serious adult relationship. but thats not the kind of relationship I desire. one day after having the youthful one yes, but I want the youthful one first.
Really you don't want a responsible/serious adult relationship? You are 27, you should accept it.
Would a woman of your age want to be with you, if she knew that?
Teenage years are gone, I think that even if you didn't have a relationship then you should still behave like a man of your age.
And I am not attacking you now, I am just giving advices.
just saw this.
eventually yes. but I want to experience a fun youthful relationship first. no woman wants to be with me regardless, this is just one of many horrible things wrong with me evidently.
though i dont' see whats wrong with a fun/playful relationship. Its not like I'm not committed, and responsible when it comes to bills, work, etc. I'm just not ready to go from 200 mph to 20mph like switching a switch.
yes I need to grow up or die. I know. gotta live by societies standards and all that stuff. well I won't so that leaves me with only the other option I guess. but I'm going to try to enjoy whatever years I have left rather the be soulless and unhappy with some woman who doesn't love the real me in fear that if I ever slip up and show the slightest bit of the real me it'll all be over.
Peacesells wrote:
sly279 wrote:
mind games aren't playful. playful is a positive word. do you ever here people when talking about youths and use the word playful as bad? or with cats and dogs. besides with adult people playful only has a good meaning. I think its horrible that with adults its a negative. bit tired of women telling me i need to grow up.
bit tired of women telling me i need to grow up.Depends, it can also be not positive. For example you don't act playful at a funeral. or maybe these women just on't like your way of being playful.
Moreover if you say that you don't want a responsible/serious relationship but want a teenagish one, it's just natural that they will tell you to grow up.
they dont' know my style of playful they list not playful/childish on their profiles. they talking in a general sense.
yeah no and I'm not playful at work or when I drive a car. duh. but I should be able to be playful in my own house around my spouse. i should be able to be myself when in the safety of my home.
24 Jul 2015, 4:16 am
