13 Apr 2018, 10:24 am
magz wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
So it looks we agree 
As a general bias-seeker, I would only look if it is actually money or social status – they are connected but capitalism equates them, which isn't obvious in general.
As a general bias-seeker, I would only look if it is actually money or social status – they are connected but capitalism equates them, which isn't obvious in general.
Is it a matter of having "good" money/social status or an elite level(top 1%)?
13 Apr 2018, 11:12 am
Closet Genious wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
magz wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Why will a man who’s well off date a woman who works full time min wage, but a well off woman will only date a man who makes the same or more as her?
I can't answer for all women, obviously, but I personally prefer to date someone with a similar income as me, as I've found that big differences can cause uncomfortable power imbalances in the relationship.
I'd guess there are probably more men who are happy to have more power, and women who are happy for their male partner to have more power, than the other way around.
Not me. I wouldn't want to date a poor woman. Might end up having to support her. I don't want to have more power than my partner because as Spiderman said, with great power comes great responsibility. I want to be her partner, not her keeper.
I'm a pretty lazy guy. The thing I like most about feminism is that it gives women more responsibility, which means less responsibility for me to deal with. I took equality for granted until I started dating Chinese girls are used to having less power and less responsibility, even though they often wield power from the behind the scenes. There's something insidious about that.
When me and my today spouse started dating, I had to refuse several invitations from him because I wouldn't be able to afford them. At that time I often didn't know what I could eat the other day. No matter he was willing to pay, it just would make me extremely uncomfortable and my position in the relationship would be uncomfortably questionable.
Actually his penny-wise attitude (I couldn't find the right word in a dictionary... but he's a little like Uncle Scroodge, he hates spending money despite being well-off) saved the day, he didn't mind a lunch of bread and herring on a bench in a park
So he had to kind of descend to my financial level to meet me.
Now we we both work, he earns much more but it's okay, his skills are more marketable and work is his number 1 while my number 1 are the kids.
My mother would often get into fights with her boyfriends because they wanted to give her money, and she would refuse.
In my experience, men prefer to make more money than women just like they prefer to date a woman who's younger, dumber, and less funny than them. I don't see how that's the fault of women.
The big reason behind why men love to make money, is because women absolutely love money.
As do men.
13 Apr 2018, 11:14 am
XFilesGeek wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
magz wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Why will a man who’s well off date a woman who works full time min wage, but a well off woman will only date a man who makes the same or more as her?
I can't answer for all women, obviously, but I personally prefer to date someone with a similar income as me, as I've found that big differences can cause uncomfortable power imbalances in the relationship.
I'd guess there are probably more men who are happy to have more power, and women who are happy for their male partner to have more power, than the other way around.
Not me. I wouldn't want to date a poor woman. Might end up having to support her. I don't want to have more power than my partner because as Spiderman said, with great power comes great responsibility. I want to be her partner, not her keeper.
I'm a pretty lazy guy. The thing I like most about feminism is that it gives women more responsibility, which means less responsibility for me to deal with. I took equality for granted until I started dating Chinese girls are used to having less power and less responsibility, even though they often wield power from the behind the scenes. There's something insidious about that.
When me and my today spouse started dating, I had to refuse several invitations from him because I wouldn't be able to afford them. At that time I often didn't know what I could eat the other day. No matter he was willing to pay, it just would make me extremely uncomfortable and my position in the relationship would be uncomfortably questionable.
Actually his penny-wise attitude (I couldn't find the right word in a dictionary... but he's a little like Uncle Scroodge, he hates spending money despite being well-off) saved the day, he didn't mind a lunch of bread and herring on a bench in a park
So he had to kind of descend to my financial level to meet me.
Now we we both work, he earns much more but it's okay, his skills are more marketable and work is his number 1 while my number 1 are the kids.
My mother would often get into fights with her boyfriends because they wanted to give her money, and she would refuse.
In my experience, men prefer to make more money than women just like they prefer to date a woman who's younger, dumber, and less funny than them. I don't see how that's the fault of women.
The big reason behind why men love to make money, is because women absolutely love money.
As do men.
Because women love it.
13 Apr 2018, 11:16 am
13 Apr 2018, 11:17 am
Closet Genious wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
magz wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Why will a man who’s well off date a woman who works full time min wage, but a well off woman will only date a man who makes the same or more as her?
I can't answer for all women, obviously, but I personally prefer to date someone with a similar income as me, as I've found that big differences can cause uncomfortable power imbalances in the relationship.
I'd guess there are probably more men who are happy to have more power, and women who are happy for their male partner to have more power, than the other way around.
Not me. I wouldn't want to date a poor woman. Might end up having to support her. I don't want to have more power than my partner because as Spiderman said, with great power comes great responsibility. I want to be her partner, not her keeper.
I'm a pretty lazy guy. The thing I like most about feminism is that it gives women more responsibility, which means less responsibility for me to deal with. I took equality for granted until I started dating Chinese girls are used to having less power and less responsibility, even though they often wield power from the behind the scenes. There's something insidious about that.
When me and my today spouse started dating, I had to refuse several invitations from him because I wouldn't be able to afford them. At that time I often didn't know what I could eat the other day. No matter he was willing to pay, it just would make me extremely uncomfortable and my position in the relationship would be uncomfortably questionable.
Actually his penny-wise attitude (I couldn't find the right word in a dictionary... but he's a little like Uncle Scroodge, he hates spending money despite being well-off) saved the day, he didn't mind a lunch of bread and herring on a bench in a park
So he had to kind of descend to my financial level to meet me.
Now we we both work, he earns much more but it's okay, his skills are more marketable and work is his number 1 while my number 1 are the kids.
My mother would often get into fights with her boyfriends because they wanted to give her money, and she would refuse.
In my experience, men prefer to make more money than women just like they prefer to date a woman who's younger, dumber, and less funny than them. I don't see how that's the fault of women.
The big reason behind why men love to make money, is because women absolutely love money.
As do men.
Because women love it.
No, men love money for pretty much the same reasons women do.
Men are just as greedy, superficial, petty, and status-obsessed as women.
13 Apr 2018, 11:25 am
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13 Apr 2018, 1:08 pm
SSJ4_PrestonGarvey wrote:
magz wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
So it looks we agree
As a general bias-seeker, I would only look if it is actually money or social status – they are connected but capitalism equates them, which isn't obvious in general.
As a general bias-seeker, I would only look if it is actually money or social status – they are connected but capitalism equates them, which isn't obvious in general.
Is it a matter of having "good" money/social status or an elite level(top 1%)?
It depends on the woman... and the culture.
In polygynist societes a small number of the most successful males tends to dominate the gene pool... sometimes with disastrous side effects: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2017072 ... c-disaster
In other societes being the only wife of a commoner is considered a better situation than living in the prince's harem. So women likely settle with someone about their own status.
IRL both strategies compete. And promiscuity makes it even more complex.
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