Pedantry: WHY is it a turn-off to women?

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21 Jun 2009, 8:46 am

I actually like pedantry, being someone who's often guilty of it. (but I try not to do it to strangers or acquaintances anymore.) Last week, I talked to a guy friend about political parties in Europe and how they were formed. Good thing it was all in YM so I can post links and stuff. When we said goodbye, he said: "thanks for the lecture." Hahaha.

But really, I should cut down the lectures. Good thing the guy who was the recipient of the political party talk a friend, who's used to me :lol:



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21 Jun 2009, 9:19 am

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Here is an excerpt from a IM conversation I had(Schwartzmacht is MY handle BTW):


Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:44:40 AM): tell me, are you not an ombrophile?
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:45:13 AM): a what?
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:45:22 AM): ombros==rain
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:45:32 AM): ;)
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:45:49 AM): ombros does not equal rain
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:46:01 AM): ombro does
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:46:30 AM): ombro is a prefix derived from the greek noun ombros
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:46:45 AM): Is this how you are on dates?
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:46:49 AM): no
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:47:01 AM): because its really a turn off and quite annoying
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:47:23 AM): are you saying that Im being too pedantic?
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:47:53 AM): I am saying you are really weird and not my type
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:48:02 AM): hrm
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:48:18 AM): don't Hrm at me
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:48:45 AM): WTF did I say that got you offended?
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:48:56 AM): I am gonna go


Good Grief! I dont understand why women get like this when you get picky about words :x . I did NOT mean to be condescending or to correct her but it seems women actively HATE men who are pedantic. Why is this so? Any thoughts??

This reads like she had already made her mind up about you by this point in the conversation. You should look at this in the context of your previous interactions with her, rather than what you said here, which strikes me as being quite innocuous on its own. Her reaction may not necessarily have much to do with you, either - she might also be in a particularly bad humor, or not a pleasant character in general.

Nobody really likes being corrected, but it can be a sign of strength or confidence of a sort, which is a plus for many people. If a girl tries to call you out on that, though, it's usually time to move on.



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21 Jun 2009, 11:02 am

you guys are wasting a whole thread on one person. It's not always all about you, its more about the girl than it is about u. the problem with people is that

they wanna point fingers at other people when its their fault
but when its not their fault they wanna point fingers at themselves.



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21 Jun 2009, 12:17 pm

Can't win em all -- basically, you both discovered there that you weren't each other's type. Be happy, you both just saved a lot of time and energy. Plenty of other fish in the sea for both of you.



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21 Jun 2009, 4:28 pm

Travell wrote:
here's how it is.

Guys like pretty girls, and will chase them only so long until he starts looking stupid

Girls want everything, and after that they still arent happy, and will chase a guy that is either playing games or doesnt really like her. She will chase him until its too late, until her life is messed up ..as in (marrying jerks, or getting a bum bf).

Girls dont need a personality to attract guys. When guys say, I like older women because they are more confident. BS. The confidence that older women have, give them the power to accept themselves and that causes them to accept many more men. And when a man is accepted by a woman, that's an easy way in to a relationship or much more. Confidence cause women to not have bitchy personalities, which men like as well because its easy access to a relatiosnship with a beautiful women.
Guys like women who are independent because she wont be in his pocket all the time, not because it shows confidence and she's strong. It takes a load off of the man.

Men want stuff easy, but women want stuff dificult.


I think Anna got it wrong, not just a dickhead, a clueless one.


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22 Jun 2009, 10:27 am

willa wrote:
Travell wrote:
here's how it is.

Guys like pretty girls, and will chase them only so long until he starts looking stupid

Girls want everything, and after that they still arent happy, and will chase a guy that is either playing games or doesnt really like her. She will chase him until its too late, until her life is messed up ..as in (marrying jerks, or getting a bum bf).

Girls dont need a personality to attract guys. When guys say, I like older women because they are more confident. BS. The confidence that older women have, give them the power to accept themselves and that causes them to accept many more men. And when a man is accepted by a woman, that's an easy way in to a relationship or much more. Confidence cause women to not have bitchy personalities, which men like as well because its easy access to a relatiosnship with a beautiful women.
Guys like women who are independent because she wont be in his pocket all the time, not because it shows confidence and she's strong. It takes a load off of the man.

Men want stuff easy, but women want stuff dificult.


I think Anna got it wrong, not just a dickhead, a clueless one.


I like you willa



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22 Jun 2009, 3:02 pm

willa, anna-banana: I think dickhead is a too strong word on this forum. I'd go with clueless though. It seems to me that people's lack of knowledge and experience is considered a valid reason to shut them out of certain circles of society. Even without accepting that they are in need of help more than ignorance.


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22 Jun 2009, 4:51 pm

Kenjuudo wrote:
willa, anna-banana: I think dickhead is a too strong word on this forum. I'd go with clueless though. It seems to me that people's lack of knowledge and experience is considered a valid reason to shut them out of certain circles of society. Even without accepting that they are in need of help more than ignorance.


thanks, Kenjuudo, but I think Travell needs your words of wisdom more than I do :wink:


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22 Jun 2009, 5:26 pm

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Kenjuudo wrote:
willa, anna-banana: I think dickhead is a too strong word on this forum. I'd go with clueless though. It seems to me that people's lack of knowledge and experience is considered a valid reason to shut them out of certain circles of society. Even without accepting that they are in need of help more than ignorance.


thanks, Kenjuudo, but I think Travell needs your words of wisdom more than I do :wink:
What wisdom? I'm completely "unwise". I am only capable of arriving at conclusions through logical and analytical thinking. :P

I'm a robot. Nice to meet you. ;)


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22 Jun 2009, 6:10 pm

People can get offended when they think they are equal levels and somebody starts talking like they know more than them. Your langauge in my opinion was lecturing.


Instead say something like "do you like walking in the rain?

Then say, "I heard that is called being ombrophile."

You end up impressing on her that you're smart without making her feel ignorant.



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23 Jun 2009, 2:49 am

I think this person just was not your type, plus its the internet where things are misinterpreted in the blink of an eye.

I talked to this one person randomly, they thought I was a stalker and blocked me, I then imed them again trying to be a pest and they damn near proposition me, saying how awesome a person I was and how she never met a guy like me before. I have to end up turning them down several times, and then ironically distanced myself from them.

Point is, people see what they want to see online occassionally. Also people have different preferences, very rarely do two individuals have the exact same preference. Some girls might like you to be pedantic, some girls might love you being pedantic, some girls may think you're not their type even more so than your friend Viola here did.

Also (Off topic) I don't think all guys like are pretty girls, guys even genetically speaking just like women whom they consider a prize, which in a lot of cases has jack squat to do with looks.



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23 Jun 2009, 5:17 am

WillWasHere wrote:
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From xkcd.com

that is f*****g hilarious man. absolutely golden, thanks for shareing :D



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25 Jun 2009, 1:42 am

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From an NT perspective you were definitely pedantic. She wasn't looking for knowledge or to be corrected on what she considers an irrelevant detail, but for validation and pumping up her ego.


"Tell me, are you not an ombrophile?" is pretty awkward. She gave him two chances to turn it around.

ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:45:49 AM): ombros does not equal rain
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:46:01 AM): ombro does
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:46:30 AM): ombro, ombros, it's all greek to me.

ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:46:45 AM): Is this how you are on dates?
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:46:49 AM): Not really, I usually type slower on dates.


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From an Aspie standpoint you were perfectly logical. Which, of course, is the problem when interacting with NTs.


The NT logic is usually "joke failed--abort! Change topic!"



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25 Jun 2009, 2:13 am

I say "good riddance". If she couldn't handle that, then she's going to be a pain in the ass anyway. :lol:


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25 Jun 2009, 3:16 am

Travell wrote:
If women really want confidence then why is it that a guy who is seen as strange or insecure, can get an unattractive girl (ugly girl) , by just being himself around her. But if he's himself around an attractive girl then he's a loser.

Or do all women want the same thing, and only the pretty one's are the only ones able to get it??

????Hmmm??


You must remember that attractiveness is a subjective quality, and is entirely dependent on the eye of the beholder. Someone you might find unattractive, another person might find attractive.

People have a tendency to find those who have similar facial features to them more attractive - so by logical deduction a girl (who you class as attractive) is likely to go after a guy (who you class as attractive) because you would be attracted to certain physical traits, therefore they must both have those physical traits, therefore they are more likely to find each other attractive because they share similar features.

It's human psychology. :P

But it's very important to remember Travell that every single person on earth is going to have a different idea of what's attractive and what's not, and thus every single person on earth will be attractive to some people and unattractive to others. Attractiveness is subjective.


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25 Jun 2009, 7:56 pm

Microdot wrote:
KnightGhost wrote:
From an NT perspective you were definitely pedantic. She wasn't looking for knowledge or to be corrected on what she considers an irrelevant detail, but for validation and pumping up her ego.


"Tell me, are you not an ombrophile?" is pretty awkward. She gave him two chances to turn it around.

ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:45:49 AM): ombros does not equal rain
ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:46:01 AM): ombro does
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:46:30 AM): ombro, ombros, it's all greek to me.

ViolaPlayer1987 (6/7/2009 10:46:45 AM): Is this how you are on dates?
Schwartzmacht (6/7/2009 10:46:49 AM): Not really, I usually type slower on dates.


KnightGhost wrote:
From an Aspie standpoint you were perfectly logical. Which, of course, is the problem when interacting with NTs.


The NT logic is usually "joke failed--abort! Change topic!"


*Sigh* More passive-aggressive NT Bullsh*t, thats just what we need around here. :roll: