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Grrrr. it's unkind to write people off like that. remember they believe their opinions just as much as you yours.

Carlofirst, you are very narrow-minded. too bad, because I'm going to post my irrelevant personal opinion and experience.

I think it would be very unfortunate to be married to someone who considered my only important job to be keeping the house clean, taking care of the kids, and feeding everyone. I would be very unhappy if I wasn't able to pursue my special interests because they were considered to be interfering with my 24/7 responsibilities, and I'm a happier person when I get to do things besides cleaning up after other people.

I've been through times in my life when my focus was my work, or I was primarily a housewife. I can tell you that the degree of success and the satisfaction I got from either is largely dependent on what the other party brings to the table. if someone wants a housewife, I'm really not the person for them nor are they the person for me, although flexibility in relationship roles is pretty essential to success.

I suppose some would consider me a feminist, but I'm not. I'm just very concerned with relationship equity, and I feel that what works is going to be different depending on the needs of the 2 people who are in the relationship. a man who wants a housewife shouldn't marry a woman who wants to be a lawyer, for instance. neither should someone who wants to be a stay-at-home parent marry someone who expects them to raise kids, keep house, and earn money as my ex-husband expected from me. it was inequitable.

my experience that the real reason that many two career families don't work is that men in general are lazy when it comes to participating in running a household and raising kids, or they just leave it to the woman based on the belief that she's biologically more suited to the job. I've only seen 2 career relationships work when both partners respect the others' time and career and both commit 100% to parenting.

is your real reason for preferring the type of marriage you describe because you don't want to make the effort to help someone else be successful in a career? you just want them to do that for you?

From Merriam-Webster online:

Main Entry: fem·i·nism
Pronunciation: \ˈfe-mə-ˌni-zəm\
Function: noun
Date: 1895

1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
2 : organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests

Too bad this isn't IRC; I could put folks like Carlofirst on ignore...

Hey Carlofirst! Here ya go:



Go back to the 50s and find a Stepford wife there. The future belongs to someone else.

see, there's the rub. I don't think the sexes are equal. there are obvious difference, yeah? that's why I'm deeply concerned about equity. it's unlikely there will ever be a shift from females caring for infants, but females should have the right and the means to pursue economic parity. in the U.S. we are still expected to be financially dependent on a male and any deviation from that results in long-term penalties for both members of a romantic partnership. even though I prefer the word equity over equality, that probably puts me in the feminism camp.

my hair is long. I shave my pits. I don't set men on fire. I mostly like them, especially for sex and also for talking to.

In my humble opinion, a woman that doesn't work when her husband needs her to is a parasite.

Also, @ OP, what are you doing out of the kitchen?

Last edited by shirochan on 01 Oct 2009, 11:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Which part? The one where I said I left my job to raise my kids, clean the house and cook all the meals? Hmm...that sounds like what you want so it isn't that part. Oooh...wait...maybe it's that although I can cook, and I have nice long legs and great boobs, I'm not Thai? That must be it.

Hey, if hanging out in the corner with sinsister (you spelled her name wrong, btw) is utter garbage, than I will take that and be happy with it. You should get to know her, she's a blast. But definitely not your type in the romantic sense. Just saying.

Seriously though. You put something out on a forum and that's cool. You have your opinion and I have mine. But it doesn't mean that you have to try and belittle those that don't believe as you do.

Although though "utter garbage" did make me giggle.

Carry on.