Slight overweightness...kills chances?

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09 Oct 2009, 3:50 pm

Unfortanally I have to agree with the OP. I have not read the whole thread but due to what has happened to me through the years trying to find someone.

Sometimes I go to chatrooms and start talking with someone nice. We start to private chat. As soon as the see a pic of me or see me on cam that I am overweight they stop talking to me.

I also agree that people that judge you on your weight are not work your time. But it still hurts when this happens.



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09 Oct 2009, 8:23 pm

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Unfortanally I have to agree with the OP. I have not read the whole thread but due to what has happened to me through the years trying to find someone.

Sometimes I go to chatrooms and start talking with someone nice. We start to private chat. As soon as the see a pic of me or see me on cam that I am overweight they stop talking to me.

I also agree that people that judge you on your weight are not work your time. But it still hurts when this happens.


Yes, I can imagine it must hurt. I'm not overweight, but I get furious when people does that.

The so far love of my life was overweight, I didn't care. One of my best online-friends (played a lot of WoW) was overweight. I remember that one time, that one time when someone made fun of her because of it. I don't think I've ever shown my anger in so many words before.

I recently saw a picture of my ex-girlfriend, she's put on a lot more. It scares me, because what if she's sick in some way? At the same time, I can't ask her that. That's a mission of insanity. Nothing but pure idiocy. And she said I shouldn't talk to her because it was too hard for her, so I have only spoken to her four times during a period of four years.

And on another forum, some of the women is telling a man to lose weight. Which pisses me of in so many ways. He seems to be ok with it though, not ok with it but he says he was asking for it. But I mean, one of them choosed the biggest font size to tell him to lose weight. Idiot monkeys, I'd say.

First of all, we share the same value. Second of all, noone even knows the true reason of why someone is overweight.

How hard can it be to treat one another with some dignity and respect?



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09 Oct 2009, 9:39 pm

if your a bit tubby like me, dont worry about it (plus even i expect myself to get in shape before expecting a gf, it's a matter of heart and you need to have confidence and keeping yourself busy or exercising a bit)

if your fat then consider getting a fat gf, simple, if not work on you're confidence, self esteem and get some control into you're life (a career, job whatever, transportation, people and home living skills etc) get yourself to the point where you're happy with your life, and a gf is the topping to the cake (no pun intended ha ha seriously no offence)

if your obese then it is your own fault, you wasn't thinking and you need to exercise or liposuction or something! plus I wouldn't expect a girl to go out with me if i dress in the stuff i commonly wear, thats why i would dress up nice, get the collared shirts and nice pants i think



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09 Oct 2009, 10:27 pm

I know I am fat, not obese. I know this hurts my chances. But I am happy with who I am. I am not going to try and get thin just to have a GF. To me that is very shallow and narrow minded way of thinking. Besides, the person you are with should like and love you for who you are, and not demand you change for them.

Its one thing to try and encourage someone to loose weight, eat better, ect to show you care. Its another to say" "loose weight or I am leaving you" If you meet the right person, you will positivly encourgue them to change for the better, and they you.



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09 Oct 2009, 10:51 pm

KenM wrote:
But I am happy with who I am. I am not going to try and get thin just to have a GF.


thats fine,
that just means you will/may have to get other things in order and improve if possible,
im guessing a girl would prefer a person who has a clear picture of what they
want to be or have a job or even better a career (something you love doing)
or basically isn't just a bludger and has a good personality

you're right when you say they should accept you for who are, but being fat or overwieght is a condition, it is not a PART of WHO you are, it may be linked with you're personality and your love with food or simply just a bad metabolism, a part of life is bettering yourself as much as you can, and if you really don't see you being fat as a problem then fine, but you
do have to try to better yourself otherwise a girl will see you as a bludger who is going nowhere



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10 Oct 2009, 6:46 am

AngryJessman wrote:
do have to try to better yourself otherwise a girl will see you as a bludger who is going nowhere



The thing is I have a house, a decent secure job that I really like, a decent car to get around in and all that. I am on my feet all day at work and I don't mind walking and stuff like that. So I feel I am fairly active. But people just see me as being lazy because I am fat. Even after I tell women about my job, ect. and we seem have good chemistry when we talk, I show them myself on cam or with a pic, they just out and out stop talking to me. They bail, no goodbye, nothing. Thats not right.
I am on a couple of personel sites with my pic up. I'm wondering if I take my pic down if I will get more responses on there.



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10 Oct 2009, 6:59 am

yet another idealistic thread.

the world is the way it is, and not the way it "should" be according to you guys. get over it.


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10 Oct 2009, 7:19 am

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. The exercise portion of health is drastically overrated.


Rubbish. Where did you get that tidbit from the Lazy Bastards Handbook of Crap Excuses?


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10 Oct 2009, 12:49 pm

Slim male with small amounts of regular excercise here. Consider me an anecdotal example of a male who doesn't really care.
Though once I am already with someone, I do start to worry about their health, at least if a medical professional has expressed concerns.

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10 Oct 2009, 1:33 pm

I agree whole-heartedly with Tim Tex. Beauty is only skin deep.

To me, the most attractive women are intelligent, confident, witty, and peaceful, regardless of hair color, face shape, eyeshade, weight, height, and all the other things superficial people care most about. To take this one step further, models must be very shallow people because they spend all their time focusing on their outward appearance and therefore must not have much going on on the inside. I would rather spend an evening with a woman engaging in quiet, intelligent, stimulating conversation than basking in the glow of makeup and glitter and having nothing to say. True attractiveness comes from within and shines outward like a beacon.

Don't spend another second worrying about how you look. Instead, attend to the inner side of yourself and cultivate your personality by doing things like reading, meditating, listening to music, practicing a musical instrument, taking walks in the woods, exploring an art museum, pursuing your hobbies and interests, or any combination of things that suit your interests. Just be yourself. You are young and still have much time for your personality to shine through. You cannot make another person like you by changing your outward appearance and, even if you could, why would you want to be with somebody who is so superficial anyway? I can spot a poser a mile away.

It is important to have good hygiene, and to by physically healthy, but it only takes 30 minutes of excercise four times per week and a healthy diet to lead a healthy lifestyle.

Hope this helps :D



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10 Oct 2009, 3:28 pm

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I agree whole-heartedly with Tim Tex. Beauty is only skin deep.

To me, the most attractive women are intelligent, confident, witty, and peaceful, regardless of hair color, face shape, eyeshade, weight, height, and all the other things superficial people care most about. To take this one step further, models must be very shallow people because they spend all their time focusing on their outward appearance and therefore must not have much going on on the inside. I would rather spend an evening with a woman engaging in quiet, intelligent, stimulating conversation than basking in the glow of makeup and glitter and having nothing to say. True attractiveness comes from within and shines outward like a beacon.

Don't spend another second worrying about how you look. Instead, attend to the inner side of yourself and cultivate your personality by doing things like reading, meditating, listening to music, practicing a musical instrument, taking walks in the woods, exploring an art museum, pursuing your hobbies and interests, or any combination of things that suit your interests. Just be yourself. You are young and still have much time for your personality to shine through. You cannot make another person like you by changing your outward appearance and, even if you could, why would you want to be with somebody who is so superficial anyway? I can spot a poser a mile away.

It is important to have good hygiene, and to by physically healthy, but it only takes 30 minutes of excercise four times per week and a healthy diet to lead a healthy lifestyle.

Hope this helps :D


I don't fully agree. However, I do think that most people who are considered ugly aren't remarkably ugly at all. I constantly encounter supposedly ugly people who are pretty.


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10 Oct 2009, 3:38 pm

KenM wrote:
AngryJessman wrote:
do have to try to better yourself otherwise a girl will see you as a bludger who is going nowhere



The thing is I have a house, a decent secure job that I really like, a decent car to get around in and all that. I am on my feet all day at work and I don't mind walking and stuff like that. So I feel I am fairly active. But people just see me as being lazy because I am fat. Even after I tell women about my job, ect. and we seem have good chemistry when we talk, I show them myself on cam or with a pic, they just out and out stop talking to me. They bail, no goodbye, nothing. Thats not right.
I am on a couple of personel sites with my pic up. I'm wondering if I take my pic down if I will get more responses on there.


Are these women you are interested in overweight themselves? If not, why not? If you are overweight, the women you will have the most luck with will themselves be overweight. An overweight woman is far more likely to cut you slack about weight on the grounds that you will then cut her the same slack and you will be overweight together. Lots of couples are that way.



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12 Oct 2009, 10:43 am

I had more luck with women when I was skinnier. I'm 6'4 and used to be 210, which is average I think. Then, I was more energetic and therefore more confident (that's how it works with me at least). Now that I'm 270 I'm not near as energetic, and less confident... or more anxious. I'm stuck inside, alone most times now... which contributed to weight gain. That is to say, the weight didn't make it harder to date, rather my isolation did and then I gained weight. Now the weight is an additional burden.

I admit, I'm a sucker for first impressions, looks are a part of this. I definitely tend toward content though, but that takes time I may not have/offer. And therein lies the problem with confidence, I realize how I size things on first impressions and feel the same is being done to me.

If you really want to get ugly about it... looking past nighters and flings... being overweight can often seem like a genetic flaw as opposed to a byproduct of the cultural structure and its physio/psychological impact. "I don't want my kids to look like that. I don't want my kids to act like that." Even more specifically, my grandfather would tell my Mother and I "you are a mistake" or call us "spoiled kin" not worthy of his bloodline.



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12 Oct 2009, 12:36 pm

I am often attracted to men who are a little on the soft side. Not to the point where it causes any serious health problems, but I actually like a little extra weight on some guys.


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12 Oct 2009, 1:17 pm

I don't know any guy who's attracted to the magazine supermodel type with unrealistic dimensions. I'm being serious here. I don't know why women keep believing that illusion, to be honest.

Being healthy weight doesn't guarantee success, either. I'm 6'2" and 180lbs, and women still aren't interested in me at all.



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12 Oct 2009, 5:15 pm

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Being healthy weight doesn't guarantee success, either. I'm 6'2" and 180lbs, and women still aren't interested in me at all.


Oh, how I hear you! As I've mentioned before in this thread, I'm 6'1" and about 156-158; I look very fit (no "muffin top" or jiggling excess fat; visibly-toned abs and arms, etc.) but I don't even *exist* to most men in "real life."
I might as well be invisible. :cry:


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