What do girls mean when they say they want a bad boy?

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They just want an @$$hole who's smooth and doesn't care too much about conventions. The younger women are, the more likely they are to be into this type of guy.

Best laugh of the day

"Bad Boys" are a major turn-off for successful women.

It's the bored, dingy, emotionally-stunted, co-dependent types of GIRLS (notice I did NOT say women) who can't entertain themselves that want all that tough-man drama in their lives. Blech, I say.

generally it means they have issues with daddy and feeling insufficiently loved and their love map is one of being dangled precariously close to abandonment. I think this mostly stems from bad parenting, it's entrenched behavior and 'good guys' shouldn't take it personally. I have all these issues, I'm just queer so I go for the bad butches but I'm really getting worn down.

I think there is a certain anticipation that this person will be more forceful in bed or whatever but I really don't think you can judge a person's sexual performance by how they appeal to your sense of needing to be abused. It hasn't panned out in my case at all. People who are good in the sack are the ones that pay attention and are willing to do what their partner needs, probably way more likely to be a good guy (which it sounds like you are on the inside) than a bad boy who probably has a degree of narcissism and is more likely to attend to their own needs above any their partner may have.

A guy being dominant or forceful in bed can be selfish which is NOT good. And a "bad boy" is usually selfish -- they're known for walking over others to get what they want.

Give me a confident nice guy anyday.

The problem is that most confident guys are usually not nice and most nice guys are usually not confident. Selfconfidence is often correlated with arrogance.

You calling me arrogant, Salon-something??

Stereotyping will get you into trouble and turn you into an idiot, so stop it.

yeah that I should have qualified that statement, it is probably very gay-specific at least for me.

I said "MOST", not "ALL". I always nuance, but somehow you seem to have missed that.

I haven't found "Most" to be true.

"Most" of our prisoners in our county jail are black (85%). So are black people "often correlated with" crime?

Maybe I got my point across a little better that time.

That topic is way too politically sensitive to even touch. Any less politically sensitive examples you can come up with?!

It's not politically sensitive -- I just made my point and you can't figure out a way to skirt around it. teehee

There is no meaning behind "most" anything. We can't look at someone and say "yeah, but MOST times your kind does this." Or "in MOST situations the likes of people like you do this."

Meaningless if that particular person doesn't do it. Correlations are nothing but fun -- they are not practical on a case by case basis.

I minored in psychology in undergrad and played with correlations a LOT.

I just don't want to get the thought police breathing on my neck. If you want to go into this particular example in more detail, please send me a PM.



Statistics are useful to see patterns and patterns are useful for making predictions. Of course, statistics are never accurate and therefore predictions are never accurate, but they do give an indication.



They're helpful when making predictions, but of course no prediction is guaranteed to match the outcome of the predictions are based on statistics. As I said hereabove, they merely provide an indication... and this can be useful.

Whew, Salon.....you should learn to agree to disagree, or admit when you're wrong.....I shouldn't need to PM you.

Generalizations/stats/predictions/patterns/etc do NOT work on an individual basis and do NOT apply to a singular person -- never have, never will. We should never stereotype an individual, PERIOD.....it makes us close-minded which hampers our ability to get to know them as a person.

There's no discussion left here......the "thought police" (i.e. female with an opinion of her own) has made her point and exited the building.

Personally, I steer away from bad guys. I've talked with many women who chased after the bad boy, some did even while seeing decent guys. Why? The good guys were "too nice" They wanted a challenge, the idea of getting a bad boy to change was more appealing than being happy with a good guy. Never understood that, myself.

I call BS on FabulousFemale.
Terrible example to use.