A comment on the "who has it worse" question...

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I wish there were more opportunities to discuss this insightfully here, where people presented their understanding of the issue. In fact, the most promising comment was the second one from "menintights". I'm interested in what she thinks causes differences between men and women.

In fact, that's probably the most productive way to continue, and the one I will take, to continue the discussion with her over PM.

Men and women are raised differently yes. But they still have all the trappings of having a mammalian brain.

Most people never learn that their mind or body cannot be trusted and feelings and perspectives must be constantly criticized, few people have the capacity to do this and correctly criticize their own thought processes and interpretation of reality, thus there is mass confusion.

Most people believe things because it feels good or they identify with it (for social reasons) not because they actually want to know the truth (which is a time consuming endeavor).

Most people want certainty rather then deal with ambiguity.

*sigh* I feel that you like to target me whenever I say something stereotypical.

Me : *saying something stereotypical*
katzefrau: **ninja fast cut-throat move** eeeeyyyaaa!
Me :



Anyways, the "For males, since their basic instinctive goal is to increase their chances of reproducing" was first said by our lady kiwi Tsiiki on page 2 of this thread.

I feel that you're selectively targeting me , leave me alone .



Second, I agree that we are more than just basic instinct, you can see that in my post on page 2.

Me and Tsiiki are talking about the animal instincts in humans, biology, studies and theories , do not take any of it personally and do not ever think that I am discussing those stuff because of my personal failures in finding a partner , I just love biology and animal world.

wow, you're not exactly an unbiased ear are you? i hope you are not doing any damage to these men by convincing them to hate women.

Yeh, I agree that we are more than instinct.

But we cannot deny that biology/evolution/instinct does NOT play a part in who we are. Men have a biological need for sexual release, it has been shown over and over and over again in numerous studies. But that doesn't mean that every guy sees a chick walking down the street and must attack her to get the release, they can control it and go home and deal with it themselves, or go to a bar for a one-night stand, etc.

I was just posting how the biology between men and women is different, and socially, it does affect us. Of course there are exceptions, there are always exceptions, this is more a law of averages, with people on either end of the spectrum in exceptions. I'm with boo, I find it really interesting how different factors play into this. (I'm not so interested in biology say, but I love seeing how theres always more than one side to thing, and more than one factor that causes situations)

Thank you.

And oh ...as a reply to your earlier post:



People do not think in this logical way when the attraction spark hits them, if a hot celeb approaches some regular woman unexpectedly , she wouldn't think in this checklist way "Will he be a loyal partner? will he dump me after one night? does he have good genes? Will he be a good father...etc etc" , nope , this is not how it happens. What it most likely to happens that many female regular citizens would be extremely flattered for being approached by a famous hot celeb and would go with the flow of attraction without much thinking of the consequences , many others would find it as a dream that came true , once-in-life opportunity that cannot missed , a chance for getting a dream partner and gaining instant fame (instant boost of social status) .

As I said before, I bet that a large majority of female teens would say 'yes' to "Cullen" (hoping that it might develop to something deeper later) , many of them worship that guy already!

A typical teen would think "OMG OMG Cullen is asking me for a day out!! my friends will die of jealously!! I ll be known as Cullen's gf in whole school!! !"

Now why this? Again, they're about the instincts that we are talking about



I say that observing female teens' behaviors tell us much more about the female human primitive brain than the adults since they rely more instinct and less on....reason.

Well I won't argue with that... I know personally I fight emotions/instinct with logic, so not the best example XD

But no way to know until such a study is done~

But I do believe there are more than one factor going into play when it comes to celebs, so hard to pinpoint exaclty what it is (I mean, it could simply be the boost in social status, or it could be the instinct of finding someone who's a good provider, or maybe something else that I can't think with my half working brain atm)

I also believe the last study has some more factors at play than simple instinct, but I don't know all the details from it, and it does show a significant rift between the male and female response to the same situation *shrug*

But hey, now you need to convince cullen/paterson dude to go out on a social experiment and see how many women will have random sex with him! xD
But also needa do it with other actors, female versions as well, and some really rich business men, etc... see how all of the factors play!

But in the end, we don't really know, and can only hypothesize *shrug*

That would cost more than any study XD

and you're right, I am just assuming and estimating stuff based on my personal observations, but we can only know for sure when a such study occurs.

Boo, read my post again. it wasn't an attack of any sort; it was a well thought out observation based on something that i pulled out of your post, simply. if i had happened to agree with you, i think you'd have interpreted it differently.

adhering to stereotypes to explain people does nothing except impede one's ability to get to know people as individuals.

but if you want to call me a ninja, be my guest.

Men are expected to take control. That is one thing that is not in my genes without question. I don't have an Alpha bone in my body. From the experience I have had so far, it seems to me I am not doing 'my job' as a man.