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13 Jan 2011, 11:44 am

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I just took any oppurtunity, even if I didn't think we'd be overly compatible.
You don't know until you take a chance. If it doesn't work after a few dates, break it off.
No harm done.


I should be knowing if it would work out or not before the first date. Otherwise I'm just wasting both her time and mine...


How is getting experience wasting time? :?
That's like saying it's wasting time trying anything because it might not work out.


I don't know about other people, but my goal is to find a woman I can spend the rest of my life with. Spending time in a relationship that's doomed to eventually fail is time that I could be spending looking for the one that won't...

Lot s of people who get married think it will last for the rest of their lives & the marjoirty of marriages fail


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13 Jan 2011, 11:46 am

If I hear one more person blather about how women have it easier, I'll vomit all over my keyboard.

I only just found a boyfriend over the internet after being single for 4 years. And he is in another f*****g country. Yeah, I had everything handed to me on a plate.


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13 Jan 2011, 11:47 am

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Lot s of people who get married think it will last for the rest of their lives & the marjoirty of marriages fail


Pollster Louis Harris has written, "The idea that half of American marriages are doomed is one of the most specious pieces of statistical nonsense ever perpetuated in modern times." It all began when the Census Bureau noted that during one year, there were 2.4 million marriages and 1.2 million divorces. Someone did the math without calculating the 54 million marriages already in existence, and presto, a ridiculous but quotable statistic was born. Harris concludes, "Only one out of eight marriages will end in divorce. In any single year, only about 2 percent of existing marriages will break up."



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13 Jan 2011, 11:50 am

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If I hear one more person blather about how women have it easier, I'll vomit all over my keyboard.

I only just found a boyfriend over the internet after being single for 4 years. And he is in another f***ing country. Yeah, I had everything handed to me on a plate.


relationships spanning the globe...not fun, I will admit



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13 Jan 2011, 11:54 am

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Lot s of people who get married think it will last for the rest of their lives & the marjoirty of marriages fail


Pollster Louis Harris has written, "The idea that half of American marriages are doomed is one of the most specious pieces of statistical nonsense ever perpetuated in modern times." It all began when the Census Bureau noted that during one year, there were 2.4 million marriages and 1.2 million divorces. Someone did the math without calculating the 54 million marriages already in existence, and presto, a ridiculous but quotable statistic was born. Harris concludes, "Only one out of eight marriages will end in divorce. In any single year, only about 2 percent of existing marriages will break up."

I know a lot more people who got divorced than people who stayed married


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13 Jan 2011, 12:03 pm

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Lot s of people who get married think it will last for the rest of their lives & the marjoirty of marriages fail


Pollster Louis Harris has written, "The idea that half of American marriages are doomed is one of the most specious pieces of statistical nonsense ever perpetuated in modern times." It all began when the Census Bureau noted that during one year, there were 2.4 million marriages and 1.2 million divorces. Someone did the math without calculating the 54 million marriages already in existence, and presto, a ridiculous but quotable statistic was born. Harris concludes, "Only one out of eight marriages will end in divorce. In any single year, only about 2 percent of existing marriages will break up."

I know a lot more people who got divorced than people who stayed parried


Well then, the statistics must be wrong if your personal experience is otherwise.



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13 Jan 2011, 12:06 pm

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I dated tons of women I met on the internet. Most of them were awful, but with each one I became a little more confident in myself and learned a thing or two about women in general. It became less nerve-wracking and I learned how to suppress my own anxieties and quirks. After doing this for long enough I met a woman who I began having a real relationship with. We moved in together and I learned all the little details that go along with sharing your space with someone you are also sharing a bed with. After a couple of years I married her. We were married for several years and I learned all the things that are important for maintaining a marriage even though I did not necessarily follow them or care at that point. So, I divorced her and went back to internet dating. I met a woman 6 months after my divorce was finalized and married her 2 years later. This is the relationship that I was always meant to be in and I would have never had it if I had not had all the previous "practice", because I would not have been ready when it came along.


And how do you propose I date tons of women if I can't even get one to like me?



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13 Jan 2011, 12:08 pm

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I dated tons of women I met on the internet. Most of them were awful, but with each one I became a little more confident in myself and learned a thing or two about women in general. It became less nerve-wracking and I learned how to suppress my own anxieties and quirks. After doing this for long enough I met a woman who I began having a real relationship with. We moved in together and I learned all the little details that go along with sharing your space with someone you are also sharing a bed with. After a couple of years I married her. We were married for several years and I learned all the things that are important for maintaining a marriage even though I did not necessarily follow them or care at that point. So, I divorced her and went back to internet dating. I met a woman 6 months after my divorce was finalized and married her 2 years later. This is the relationship that I was always meant to be in and I would have never had it if I had not had all the previous "practice", because I would not have been ready when it came along.


And how do you propose I date tons of women if I can't even get one to like me?


You can't get a woman to like you well enough to accept a date while online? If this is the case than I would suggest that the cause is the same attitude that you are projecting in these forums and you need to work very hard to suppress it.



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13 Jan 2011, 12:14 pm

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Lot s of people who get married think it will last for the rest of their lives & the marjoirty of marriages fail


Pollster Louis Harris has written, "The idea that half of American marriages are doomed is one of the most specious pieces of statistical nonsense ever perpetuated in modern times." It all began when the Census Bureau noted that during one year, there were 2.4 million marriages and 1.2 million divorces. Someone did the math without calculating the 54 million marriages already in existence, and presto, a ridiculous but quotable statistic was born. Harris concludes, "Only one out of eight marriages will end in divorce. In any single year, only about 2 percent of existing marriages will break up."

I know a lot more people who got divorced than people who stayed parried


Well then, the statistics must be wrong if your personal experience is otherwise.

I take statistics with a grain of salt. The numbers can be maintained to prove most anything


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13 Jan 2011, 1:35 pm

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All that i am saying is that man has to the provider and take charge in relationships thats all.

a fully grown man having meltdowns is not going to be appealing to a women at all. If your a women on the ohter hand its more acceptable to have meltdowns etc....... basicly what i am saying is that women can get away with acting silly and men cannot.

i have read up on the internet that aspie find it very hard to establish realtionships thats why i think that is harder for men.


I must be quite a weird woman then...sure its not the first thing I would look for, but it would not really be unappealing to me. I've had my fair share of meltdowns(one was drug induced, but thats another story for a different time). So it would be something I could relate to.



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13 Jan 2011, 2:21 pm

The problem with this idea is that in practice, it will either be unfair to someone, or simply will not work. Think it through. Say that you set up a group for people who have a difficult time dating. Who are the only people who will join? Those who have a hard time dating. Which is a great recipe to end up with a room divided in the middle, the men on one side, whispering to each other about how unfair the women are, and the women on the other side, whispering to each other about how unfair the men are... Unless you could force some people to join - which would be totally unfair - that's all you'd get out of such a group. A mutual hatred society.

Dating isn't inherently "fair" or "unfair", it is simply the best method anyone has yet figured out to allow people to find each other. Sure, there are women any sane man would want to avoid - just as there are men any sane woman would want to avoid. But everyone, NT or AS, must just keep "looking through the pile" until you find someone who works for you. NTs don't have it any easier - a lot of them establish relationships that end up in disaster. And the only thing women have an easier time at is finding one night stands; there are enough guys out there unwilling to consider more that all women - NT and AS - could just as easily claim the dating world is unfair to them.

People get hurt dating. All people. Men, women, NT, AS. I've never seen any indication any of them like that part of it. But it is just part of being human. Keep on looking through the hurt, or give up, those are the only choices you have.

To be honest, I would guess (I don't know you, so this is only a guess) that your biggest obstacle to successfully dating is this very idea that life is somehow "unfair" to you because a woman doesn't just throw herself at your feet. It doesn't work that way, not even for NTs. There's a whole genre of literature - romance - which makes that pretty plain. But, as long as you expect women to just accept you and have a relationship with you because you want it, you're not going to see that relationships only happen when you do your part in working to make them happen. And, even once you learn that much, you'll probably go through a number of relationships that don't work out, struggle to make them work only to have your heart broken. That's the reality every single person faces. Yes, there are a few lucky ones who marry their high school sweetheart and live happily ever after - but even they have to work hard to make that last.

Now, I've said all this assuming you want a real relationship. If that's what you're looking for, my advice stands. If what you're really after is just a chance to jump in some girl's pants... why should she say yes unless she wants you, too? If a lonely, horny gay guy came on to you, would you feel it was only "fair" to let him have a night's fun with you? I didn't think so. :) Okay, so we've established that even if you're only looking for sex, it is only fair when both parties want it. So, still, you have to work to find someone who is willing to climb into your bed, and chances are, she isn't going to look much like the girls you see on TV shows and in movies. NTs don't get girls who look like that, either, by the way... For that matter, you probably don't look much like the guys playing opposite those girls, either, so you've got nothing to complain about.


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13 Jan 2011, 2:27 pm

I look like keanu reeves. :)



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13 Jan 2011, 2:29 pm

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I should be knowing if it would work out or not before the first date. Otherwise I'm just wasting both her time and mine...


Unless you believe in psychics, I'm not sure how you propose to accomplish this feat. In fact, if you have any way at all to know, before the first date, whether or not it would work out, you could make a fortune, and become irresistible to women (or at least the ones primarily interested in wealth). Heck, if you could predict the outcome of a relationship in advance with even a twenty or thirty percent rate of success, I'll bet you could still make millions, even if you were completely honest about the likelihood of accuracy.


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