Can we just get rid of this forum?

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If this forum vanished the threads here would just ooze into other parts of the board.

I agree with the OP that Aspies are not wired for relationships, or even friends, really. But I disagree about not needing them. I still get desperately lonely. I just get frustrated that I can't connect with people.

In my opinion, there should be a defense for every offense no matter how valid. If statements go uncontested, how will anyone ever learn? Sometimes the defense or offense has major holes in it and the counter-point is easily discarded but I still think it serves a purpose in making the other side examine the other point or their own.

Well I think the men here who have legitimate issues with women should be allowed to say something and not be ridiculed for it. Another thing that amazes me is how wimpy some of the guys are here who put women on pedestals and always defend them. That's why when a guy here makes a thread saying he can't get a woman because of gender roles and difficult pre-requisites required both guys and girls will start ganging up and using ad hominem attacks. What I'd like to say to those guys is that you're wasting your time defending these women because really, it's not like they are going to go out with you or have a real life relationship with you. There's plenty of "normal", rich, bad boys for that. I come from another forum completely unrelated to aspergers, someone just pointed this place out to me once, so I thought I'd get some feedback on this.

Everyone is allowed to say whatever they want unless they are deliberately attacking someone. However, they shouldn't expect to be able to say something without recieving any feedback (aka criticism). Like I said above, feedback is good and can cause people to rethink things. Person with the original point (in this case complaints about women) should also be able to back up their point in the face of such criticism. That's how I like to communicate anyway. If you only want to talk to people who agree with you, you'll end up with a pretty narrow perspective on life, imo. You should feel free to voice your complaints. But you have to realize that some people are going to disagree with you. That's ok. Everyone has their own perspective.

I don't think anyone has been ridiculed as this means soemone is mocking and insulting them. If this has happened, the mods need to be notified.

Are you aware of the just-world fallacy? It's something people will always use against a man who is dateless and not able to get someone in his life.

vilin66, you are right and this is the reason why being dateless can often snowball and self-perpetuate.

I think you will recieve less criticsm if you qualify your statements using words like "many" or "most." It is factual that many women (and men) go by this assumption that a dateless person must be single for a reason. I don't think anyone can debate that. What they CAN debate is that this is true for all people. I personally know of several spectrum males that got their very first girlfriends in their 20's. So there are some girls who are willing to look past that. True, it may be too much to hope for and you're probably better off assuming it won't happen.. but that doesn't mean it can't.

I just feel that some members here (myself included) object to blanket statements that are not qualified properly.

Well if it generalizes to the the women here, why do they get ticked by it? If a guy says women care about money and a girl who "doesn't" reads it and makes it her lifes work to beat the guy for it, what's the point? if it doesn't apply, why get offended? The only reason I can think of is that.......well, maybe it does apply to them. Otherwise why would they get offended? This is just the typical type of behavior I've seen on here. The women are allowed to say things about men, but when the men want to say things about women, suddenly all the "that's sexist" "you're a misogynist woman hater" cards come out. Seems like a double standard thing.

let's break it down.

hyperlexian, the numbers 1 and 2 (aside from the fetish/excretory function parts) of the rules you quoted is just a more indepth way of saying "deliberately attacking someone" - groups of people (eg genders, race, or sexual orientation) still count as "someone" to me. Or at least that was my intended meaning. I didn't address 3 as I don't think it applies in this case.

My point is, he can express himself he should just qualify his statements instead of directing them at all women.