I wonder what will happen to physical beauty?

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I have an article on that:

http://undergroundwellness.com/are-chem ... g-you-fat/


These sorts of discussions always turn into moralizing and aesthetic judgements. It becomes overweight people are lazy gluttons who need to eat less and exercise more versus overweight people are good looking to a significant portion of the population. Lost in all that is what overwight means. I think it means that some very negative changes have happened in our enviroment, the very least of which is easy access to too much food. Which is to say that I think a very decreased calorie version of what people already eat would not help. And that easy access to large amounts of pre-industrial food would not lead to these unhealthy outcomes and would be just fine.

Why do I think that? Because I'm old enough to remember when overweight was a lot less common, even though food was just as abundant as it is now (and just as tasty). The OP has hit on something but in the most obnoxious and point-missing way possible. The change in "beauty" is irrelevent. But the recent drastic upswing in obesity and metabolically- associated diseases like diabetes with no matching drastic increase in food quantity tells us that something else (probably several somethings) has radically changed in the enviroment.

I was a skinny little kid eating fries and drinking soda along with all the other skinny little kids. Todays kids do the exact same thing and they balloon up and get diabetes.

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/fac ... ildren.htm

As the article shows, the children now balloon up and get diabetes. I didn't. My soda-drinking peers didn't either. But kids do now. There is also an increase in Type 1 childhood diabetes which is unrelated to obesity. The article states these things but doesn't make any hypotheses.

Instead of getting into fights about whether fat is aesthetically acceptable or not, we should be trying to figure out what went so terribly wrong in our enviroment and addressing it, first off in our own lives. Obesity is but one symptom, not the disease itself, which I believe is a steady poisoning we have unwittingly brought on ourselves. Thin people are not off the hook. They are getting posioned too. It's just that obesity is not one of the symptoms they are showing.

I am making changes in my own life to "clean up". The first linked article shows some non-intuitive ways to detoxify your cooking and eating enviroment.

Janissy,

When we were kids, we were also more active physically than lots of kids in todays generation. I've never been heavy but I know that's my metabolism. My best friend was heavy in high school and grammar school and all her life, but she wasn't as heavy as some kids I see today.

Sure, we ate junk, but we walked to the store or McDonalds to get it and then walked back. We sat around or watched tv or listened to records but that gets boring after a while so you go somewhere and do something. Usually by walking or riding bikes or skatebarding. I wasn't good on a bike, too scared of a board, so it was walking with me. It might seem like we did as much sitting around as kids now, because we would go to this ones house or that ones house and lay around eating chips and drinking cokes and doing nothing, but we walked there, and not just a few houses down. Sometimes we would play some kind of sport for fun, not on a team. We weren't any good, but it was being up doing something. We had Atari, but there is only so much Atari that you can play without getting bored. We had arcades where we would spend hours standing in one spot, but we had to walk there. And stand.

My kids will sit for hours, all day, only getting up to get something to eat or drink, playing games. I make them go out and do things.

There has always been childhood obesity, but I believe it's worse now because of video games and the internet. It seems to me that the heavy kids are heavier now too than then, and I think that's why.

except that the thread topic itself is about whether or not fat people are attractive. yes, there are many factors to consider and your facts are really helpful in discussing factors in obesity rates, but that's not what the thread topic is about.

Everyone has their own preference for what's attractive. I myself don't find fat girls attractive, but I have a friend who finds them very attractive and prefers them. He actually doesn't find skinny girls to be attractive. It's just the way people are. If I don't find a girl physical attractive then I can't date her.

... but do stand out if you're not. What goes around comes around, eh?

WTF?! Who told you that American's standards of physical beauty is in decline.?

Sure , I don't mind 5-9 pounds overweight , but obese, like BMI 30 and up is..A NONO in MY BOOK

Physical beauty in decline?

Two words: Cosmetic surgery.