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08 Aug 2012, 2:18 am

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Wolfheart is the live proof that online dating's success for males is all about looks (with very few exceptions).


Gotta agree with previous poster- your line are cheesy bad!! If you were not super good looking, women WOULD call you creepy! (referring to another thread!! Ha!) Seriously though- your looks DEFINITELY are allowing those bad lines to continue!!



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08 Aug 2012, 2:23 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
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The guys who message me are the ones I want to be talking to.


I hardly believe that, are you saying that you never ignore a lot of unwanted messages?

I have a green dot on Okc, 'replies often'. I do get messages from guys who I just don't feel I would be attracted to, sure, but I rarely get the 'unwanted' messages from guys who are clearly incompatible. I am not their type, physically. I could make myself up and wear skimpy clothes and post a pic that makes me look like I am their type, but why would I want to do that? Just to get more hits? No thanks.

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I must be doing something right with my profile, to indicate clearly what type of guy I might be interested in.


and so am I.

Well that's great. You want to attract the typical female, so all is well for you!


Why are you assuming that these girls are really skimpy simply because they find someone attractive based on physical attraction? You don't really know the character of someone until you get to know them and that's not something you can show straight away. I have been getting messages from intelligent women that are studying at degree or doctorate level so I can't understand why you would assume that only promiscuous women like a good appearance.

Showing a good physique is a display that you have devotion, determination, discipline and that you take care of yourself.

If I have said anywhere that I think the women who reply to "abs" pics are skimpy or promiscuous, please show me so I can correct it. I certainly do not belive this. Promiscuous? I've never even hinted that? I believe the abs pics are more likely to attract MORE women, as demonstrated by Boo. At the same time I believe they will attract LESS women like me, but more overall. They will probably be more "typical" women. I have no doubt whatsoever that some of them will have been to university and so forth. When I talk about wearing skimpy clothing, that's when I'm talking about ME doing the equivalent of an abs pic, which I believe will lead to more messages in my inbox, most of which I won't want, because I am not interested in the "typical" guy, typically, lol.

So I'm saying what I do works for me. I present myself in a way that attracts the kind of guys I might be interested in. And the guys who attract me (and I can only assume here, other women who are similar to me) are the ones who set up their profile in a similar way, and do not bare their chest in the main picture.

If a guy wants to attract the typical female, go ahead and show your abs, as this seems to work. All I've been saying is that I believe it also excludes a certain type of female, the type who is put off by that way of making a first impression. We are clearly the minority, so most guys probably won't care. Only the ones who I might want to talk to will care (huge exaggeration, don't quote that), so yay me! :D


It's funny really how your mind is programmed and conditioned to respond to certain lines, images and behaviours and that's what your attraction is based upon, it's quite shallow to be truthful but attraction is something that is shallow to most and that's true for most people, at least me and Boo are willing to be honest about it. You are simply willing to prejudge people based on their profile photo or how they wish to exhibit their body, you do assume that it does make them promiscuous in some way.



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08 Aug 2012, 2:31 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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I have mentioned the professions/mentality of some the girls many times in the other thread, she's not getting they're more than looks-seekers.

And I have never said that they aren't more than looks-seekers. Maybe I don't explain myself well enough, but a few of you seem to jump to odd conclusions from what I say.

Let me make it clear also that I do not believe the "typical guy" is necessarily poorly educated or only interested in looks, either. How can they all be? They are the majority. I just think in most cases they do not have the type of mindset that suits me.

And when I said it was good for you that you are attracting the type of female you want, I wasn't being sarcastic.


Attracting the typeS I want, yellowtamarin, typeS.

Humanity is more than "typical" and "Atypical", get out of this WP BS mentality.


agreed on this post. YT keeps talking of pics of abs drawing away her type, but in reality is there such a thing as her type? Are types all specifically made, like production models, without any factory options. Its not fair to compare people by types, but typical vs atypical is ludicrous.



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08 Aug 2012, 2:37 am

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Wolfheart is the live proof that online dating's success for males is all about looks (with very few exceptions).


Gotta agree with previous poster- your line are cheesy bad!! If you were not super good looking, women WOULD call you creepy! (referring to another thread!! Ha!) Seriously though- your looks DEFINITELY are allowing those bad lines to continue!!


Well done, congratulations for figuring that out, don't you realize the line is meant to be cheesy and silly? That is what makes it funny, maybe it's more of a Brit thing but even foreign girls seem to get it.

Well guess what? they seem to be responding positively.

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08 Aug 2012, 2:45 am

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08 Aug 2012, 2:49 am

Wolfheart wrote:
sweetcakes wrote:
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Wolfheart is the live proof that online dating's success for males is all about looks (with very few exceptions).


Gotta agree with previous poster- your line are cheesy bad!! If you were not super good looking, women WOULD call you creepy! (referring to another thread!! Ha!) Seriously though- your looks DEFINITELY are allowing those bad lines to continue!!


Well done, congratulations for figuring that out, don't you realize the line is meant to be cheesy and silly? That is what makes it funny, maybe it's more of a Brit thing but even foreign girls seem to get it.

Well guess what? they seem to be responding positively.


no, silly lines as usual have been a way to check interest, not to create it. You already had interest, you didnt create any. Most cant use them from the get go as we have to build interest.



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08 Aug 2012, 2:49 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
The guys who message me are the ones I want to be talking to.


I hardly believe that, are you saying that you never ignore a lot of unwanted messages?

I have a green dot on Okc, 'replies often'. I do get messages from guys who I just don't feel I would be attracted to, sure, but I rarely get the 'unwanted' messages from guys who are clearly incompatible. I am not their type, physically. I could make myself up and wear skimpy clothes and post a pic that makes me look like I am their type, but why would I want to do that? Just to get more hits? No thanks.

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I must be doing something right with my profile, to indicate clearly what type of guy I might be interested in.


and so am I.

Well that's great. You want to attract the typical female, so all is well for you!


Why are you assuming that these girls are really skimpy simply because they find someone attractive based on physical attraction? You don't really know the character of someone until you get to know them and that's not something you can show straight away. I have been getting messages from intelligent women that are studying at degree or doctorate level so I can't understand why you would assume that only promiscuous women like a good appearance.

Showing a good physique is a display that you have devotion, determination, discipline and that you take care of yourself.

If I have said anywhere that I think the women who reply to "abs" pics are skimpy or promiscuous, please show me so I can correct it. I certainly do not belive this. Promiscuous? I've never even hinted that? I believe the abs pics are more likely to attract MORE women, as demonstrated by Boo. At the same time I believe they will attract LESS women like me, but more overall. They will probably be more "typical" women. I have no doubt whatsoever that some of them will have been to university and so forth. When I talk about wearing skimpy clothing, that's when I'm talking about ME doing the equivalent of an abs pic, which I believe will lead to more messages in my inbox, most of which I won't want, because I am not interested in the "typical" guy, typically, lol.

So I'm saying what I do works for me. I present myself in a way that attracts the kind of guys I might be interested in. And the guys who attract me (and I can only assume here, other women who are similar to me) are the ones who set up their profile in a similar way, and do not bare their chest in the main picture.

If a guy wants to attract the typical female, go ahead and show your abs, as this seems to work. All I've been saying is that I believe it also excludes a certain type of female, the type who is put off by that way of making a first impression. We are clearly the minority, so most guys probably won't care. Only the ones who I might want to talk to will care (huge exaggeration, don't quote that), so yay me! :D



Again, you're stuck in the 'typical' and 'atypical' categorizing thinking, you should get rid of this lol, seriously.


I agree, this is exactly the typical and atypical categorizing and black & white thinking that contributes to the God superiority complex that some people have on here.



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08 Aug 2012, 4:56 am

MXH wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
sweetcakes wrote:
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Wolfheart is the live proof that online dating's success for males is all about looks (with very few exceptions).


Gotta agree with previous poster- your line are cheesy bad!! If you were not super good looking, women WOULD call you creepy! (referring to another thread!! Ha!) Seriously though- your looks DEFINITELY are allowing those bad lines to continue!!


Well done, congratulations for figuring that out, don't you realize the line is meant to be cheesy and silly? That is what makes it funny, maybe it's more of a Brit thing but even foreign girls seem to get it.

Well guess what? they seem to be responding positively.


no, silly lines as usual have been a way to check interest, not to create it. You already had interest, you didnt create any. Most cant use them from the get go as we have to build interest.


Well if it works, it works, it is better than using the typical "hey, how are you" line and the garden shed one is simply a joke, I don't actually use that line as an opener unless it's later on in a conversation.

Maybe there's some sort of translation error but this is a hoe for the people unaware of what a hoe is and it seems to work better than obsessively ranting on about quantum mechanics or telling someone a bunch of stuff they don't really care to know.

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08 Aug 2012, 5:52 am

^^ this hoe needs it to be hard and long.



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08 Aug 2012, 7:19 am

Sorry for slow response, just got back from a lovely date with a guy whose abs I have not yet seen ;)

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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I have mentioned the professions/mentality of some the girls many times in the other thread, she's not getting they're more than looks-seekers.

And I have never said that they aren't more than looks-seekers. Maybe I don't explain myself well enough, but a few of you seem to jump to odd conclusions from what I say.

Let me make it clear also that I do not believe the "typical guy" is necessarily poorly educated or only interested in looks, either. How can they all be? They are the majority. I just think in most cases they do not have the type of mindset that suits me.

And when I said it was good for you that you are attracting the type of female you want, I wasn't being sarcastic.


Attracting the typeS I want, yellowtamarin, typeS.

Humanity is more than "typical" and "Atypical", get out of this WP BS mentality.

There are a billion ways to separate humans into groups. I think "the type who responds to an abs pic" and "the type who does not respond to an abs pic" is a legitimate way of separating females on an online dating site. The first group is a majority, the second is a minority, as you have shown. You don't have to separate people by type based on just one thing, like the length of their 36th eyelash on their right eye. You can choose to make it as specific of broad as you want, depending on what you are using it for. In this case, I would think that "the type who responds to an abs pic" has something else in their mindset, in most cases, that separates them from "the type who does not respond to an abs pic". I will not call it typeS because that wasn't the point I was trying to make. I am well aware that the females within each type are diverse in other ways.

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What makes you think that physically working out somehow makes me lesser in mental aspects? Working out to a disciplined routine involves mental willpower and discipline, it isn't something that somehow takes away from your intelligence. No one will care less, you're right but what matters now is the moment and feeling good in the moment so we can either roll the dice, take a gamble and chance or just sit around in some library waiting for everything to fall in our place whilst debating about our God superiority complex of pure intellect.

You seek shelter in wisdom but you won't find it, I seek shelter in simplicity and that's a more achieveable goal. I'm not out to be the next president of the United States or the next Einstein, I'm simply someone who came to these forums with the hope of bettering myself, learning and helping others, I think I have done that to some extent.

It seems that people wish to question mine and Boo's motives simply because something has worked successfully, it just goes to show if you aren't on the level of negativity as other people on this forum, they will always find something to criticize.

Huh? I never said that physically working out somehow makes someone lesser in mental aspects, and I don't believe it either. The only thing I am referring to in terms of an online dating profile is the impression one may give of themselves with their choice of main profile pic. It is the FIRST thing someone sees, first impressions, they matter. I will judge someone based on their profile pic - but I wouldn't think, for example "oh that guy is showing off his abs so he must a bit stupid so I don't want to date him". I will think something more along the lines of "this guy thinks it is very important that the first thing I see of him is his bare torso. That is not what attracts me to a guy, initially. In fact I'd rather not see it just yet. I'm not at the beach. From this first impression I'm already getting an idea that we have different priorities when it comes to what we look for in someone." Something like that. Notice no reference to the guy's intellect or level of promiscuity or anything.

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It's funny really how your mind is programmed and conditioned to respond to certain lines, images and behaviours and that's what your attraction is based upon, it's quite shallow to be truthful but attraction is something that is shallow to most and that's true for most people, at least me and Boo are willing to be honest about it. You are simply willing to prejudge people based on their profile photo or how they wish to exhibit their body, you do assume that it does make them promiscuous in some way.

Firstly, I don't have an issue with your profile pics. They get you want you want, so they work, it's all good. They wouldn't attract ME, or OTHER'S LIKE ME (like me in particular ways I must add, because otherwise Boo will call be up on lumping everyone like me into the same type), but they will attract women who are happy to see it. Really the only reason I ever started commenting on this stuff was because I thought maybe Aspie guys might like to attract Aspie girls as well as NTs, so as an Aspie female, who thinks a bit differently to the majority of other females (but possibly similarly to a lot of other Aspie females), I was putting my two cents in as to how the pics come across to me.

Secondly, I must disagree again with the promiscuity thing. It has nothing to do with it. How do you know I'm not promiscuous myself, or that I don't want to date promiscuous guys? An abs pic, to me, does not give that much suggestion of the guy's level of promiscuity, it just gives an idea of what first impression they want to give, what they would like potential partners to look for in a guy, initially. That's not what I look for, so I move on...



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08 Aug 2012, 7:48 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
b9 wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
yellowtamarin wrote:
The guys who message me are the ones I want to be talking to.


I hardly believe that, are you saying that you never ignore a lot of unwanted messages?

I have a green dot on Okc, 'replies often'. I do get messages from guys who I just don't feel I would be attracted to, sure, but I rarely get the 'unwanted' messages from guys who are clearly incompatible. I am not their type, physically. I could make myself up and wear skimpy clothes and post a pic that makes me look like I am their type, but why would I want to do that? Just to get more hits? No thanks.

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I must be doing something right with my profile, to indicate clearly what type of guy I might be interested in.


and so am I.

Well that's great. You want to attract the typical female, so all is well for you!


Why are you assuming that these girls are really skimpy simply because they find someone attractive based on physical attraction? You don't really know the character of someone until you get to know them and that's not something you can show straight away. I have been getting messages from intelligent women that are studying at degree or doctorate level so I can't understand why you would assume that only promiscuous women like a good appearance.

Showing a good physique is a display that you have devotion, determination, discipline and that you take care of yourself.


you will be long dead in 200 years, and no one will have a desire to dig you up and f*ck you.

you are placing much of your identity in your temporary body, and when you get old and frail, you will be without the adulation you claim you engender.

you spend all of your mental energy in the blink of a "geological time frame" eye, and you will be dust in 500 years. no abs or anything.

i guess it is good to honor the temple of your current existence, but i hope you know that the older you get, the further away from your ideal you will become.
if someone bases their identity in their body image, then they have the impossible task of maintaining their body for as long as they wish to enjoy that status.


i do not know.


and so your brain would be rotten in 200 years too
that is very true, but my brain is not rotten yet, and what i say has validity for me at this point of time. i am aware that in the scheme of things, i am like a bacterium on a giant petri dish of life, and when i no longer have anything to say (when my brain dies), that my thoughts and values will just blow away in the eternal sweep of the enormity of reality.
i know i will not be remembered or contribute anything that leaves a legacy, but i still actively think anyway.
i guess the problem is that i contributed what i had to say, and what i had to say was written in a very scathing way and i very much wish you had not quoted me, because when i saw what i wrote last night this morning, i thought i should delete it, but it was too late.

i do not want to insult wolfheart because he seems like a nice person, but your quote sets my post in concrete. to wolfheart :i am sorry i was so scathing.



The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
no one will desire to consult your intelligence unless you leave a significant legacy (ie. invention).
it is not of any interest to me that no one will care what i thought during my life after i am dead. there are billions of people with trillions of thoughts, and my thoughts are just a few molecules in that torrent.
i am not conceited. i know i will leave no legacy (except for a house for my girlfriend to live in), and i never had any aspirations for "glory", so your advice to me is not unsettling.


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Your lecture of "wisdom" was so uncalled for.
you are the one that has used the word "wisdom", and i just wrote what i thought. i am not a perfect thinker, and i can easily accept advice that my words are useless, but i know if i think what i think, i believe it. the value of those thoughts to the wider public are questionable i agree.

what i was trying to say (but failed to refine the insults from) was that physical beauty is temporary, and anything that is temporary is like a blink of the eye of the universe. even the himalaya ranges exist only between blinks of a universal eye.

i imagined young teenagers with "bangs" as they call them (like j. bieber) who address their physical appearance constantly (by flicking their fingers through their hair to refashion it (or check on it) every few seconds, and i imagined that in 500 years, their graves will be unremarkable, and in 1000 years , they will be dust (given the correct conditions (they could also be slime at the bottom of a cess pool or any other number of non sexual entities))). i often wonder how vain the unwrapped hideous mummies from ancient egypt were about their appearance when they were alive.

whatever. i should not have posted my post because it was rude so sorry.



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08 Aug 2012, 9:06 am

I've always found the way NT people flirt to be really weird, almost off-putting. What's the secret to liking it?

Bear in mind, I'm also the guy that gets bored to tears whenever people start up with that "small talk" thing. I am apparently uninterested in people unless we're doing or talking about something interesting.

You know what would be ideal for me? Dinner, a nice glass of wine, SHABANG, then perhaps a nice conversation about biology or something. I need a female clone of me!



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08 Aug 2012, 9:32 am

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Bear in mind, I'm also the guy that gets bored to tears whenever people start up with that "small talk" thing.
i never feel sad about small talk. i never have cried as a result of small talk. i can not understand why people cry when they they are bored. i have never seen it so i can not understand the mechanism.

small talk is ignored by me, and it never infects me to the extent that i am brought to tears by boredom.
i am never bored either. i always see an angle that i am interested in pursuing, and whether or not it is shared, i will follow it back into my own private world of thought inevitably.



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08 Aug 2012, 9:33 am

@yellowtamarin
I don't respond to online profiles with ab shots either, I don't know if it's because I'm autistic, it's just not my thing (I wanna see your face, not your man teats!) Not wanting to see you half naked is not the same as not being visual
but you have to understand, if we don't like what they think women like we're super liars and thats terrible...


-advice op-
some women like some things, some women like other things
so when you do things to attract some women, you're alienating other women, there is no universal "attractive" ideal
number of suitors (as long as it's more than zero) is less important than quality and compatibility of suitors (three promising matches are better than 20 low compatibility duds)
think about who you want to be with, think about what that person would like to see, present that


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08 Aug 2012, 9:39 am

if rat's anuses were the currency of our economy, then i would be a pauper.



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08 Aug 2012, 10:50 am

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@yellowtamarin
I don't respond to online profiles with ab shots either, I don't know if it's because I'm autistic, it's just not my thing (I wanna see your face, not your man teats!) Not wanting to see you half naked is not the same as not being visual
but you have to understand, if we don't like what they think women like we're super liars and thats terrible...


-advice op-
some women like some things, some women like other things
so when you do things to attract some women, you're alienating other women, there is no universal "attractive" ideal
number of suitors (as long as it's more than zero) is less important than quality and compatibility of suitors (three promising matches are better than 20 low compatibility duds)
think about who you want to be with, think about what that person would like to see, present that


no one implied that YT is lying.