24 Sep 2012, 7:26 pm
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WantToHaveALife
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24 Sep 2012, 11:34 pm
SpiritBlooms wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
thewhitrbbit wrote:
Tradition.
You either have to adapt, or pray that you'll catch the eye of a girl who bucks tradition.
You either have to adapt, or pray that you'll catch the eye of a girl who bucks tradition.
it gets annoying how girls always argue, say that "guys are hunters, blah blah blah", pisses me off too, i also hate it, it gets annoying, frustrating, on how life, society, culture, or just people in general, they always use the sexist phrases, quotes towards us guys "Man Up, Be a Man, Grow a Pair, Grow Some Balls, Sack it Up" makes me feel like punching a guy, dude who would say that to me in person
Not all modern women require this of men, but each person is an individual, and yes, cultural acceptance is also something that affects us. Also, to a great degree, what the men were like that we grew up with. My husband was actually pretty shy when we met, I think he only asked me out because my BIL pressured him to. He's never hunted, he treats our cats like babies, and he loves to cook. But one thing he had in common with my dad and brothers was that he liked to work on cars, and for some reason I felt at home with that. In contrast there was a guy I dated once, and it was a complete turn-off to me to learn that he didn't even know how to check the oil level in his car. Because the men I grew up with were different, I think that was why it sort of shocked me. (But I also knew how to check the oil in my car, and I couldn't understand anyone who drove a car and didn't.)
So it's sometimes a little thing. It seems silly and superficial or even sexist, but these things affect us at a gut level, and that's why I was insistent about evolution earlier. If there's one area in our modern lives in which we still rely heavily on instincts and gut-level responses, it's in choosing or accepting a mate. Attraction isn't something you can calculate, it's almost completely feeling and instinct based. Which is why we always hear that love is blind, or stupid. It quite often is!
I just hate, despise, loathe on how we guys have to get labeled p*****s, wimps, cowards for not approaching, not making a move, yeah i may lack the balls, guts, courage to approach a girl, talk to her and ask her out, but i'm not afraid of standing up for myself, overall, i just hate, despise, loathe on how life, society, culture, expects us guys to toughen it up all the time, to be all warrior-like, etc.
This one guy said this to me on a Plentyoffish thread, on the forums a few years ago and thats when i had just had enough of hearing the phrase, quote "Man Up, Be a Man, Grow a Pair, Grow Some Balls" over and over, he said:
"No bro, it isn't. And i don't want to be a**** but seriously this is like the eleventh thread you've complained in.
F*cking grow a pair. Seriously, man up. You need to have a spine, NO ONE respects a door mat, and you'll NEVER get a relationship without respect. Realize that YOU are in control of your own destiny and women don't OWE you s**t, not a relationship, a bj, love, respect, sympathy, NONE of it.
You gotta EARN it. EARN it by realising that you don't NEED to have a chick to validate your existance, realize that people try to help you all the time, but your LAZY ass ALWAYS blames society instead of taking initiative and making yourself more attractive the opposite sex. ADAPT! Don't cry about women not wanting you, find out what they want and use that to make yourself more attractive.
If you dig dogs? Volunteer at a shelter. Line dancing, learn a language, be a tutor for college kids, DAMN ANYTHING. Get involved in life, don't watch it from the back seat, maybe then a woman would want to be your co-pilot.
Oh, and Be a Man."
It's like as if life, society, is like a Drill Sergeant to us guys
25 Sep 2012, 8:46 am
WantToHaveALife wrote:
SpiritBlooms wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
thewhitrbbit wrote:
Tradition.
You either have to adapt, or pray that you'll catch the eye of a girl who bucks tradition.
You either have to adapt, or pray that you'll catch the eye of a girl who bucks tradition.
it gets annoying how girls always argue, say that "guys are hunters, blah blah blah", pisses me off too, i also hate it, it gets annoying, frustrating, on how life, society, culture, or just people in general, they always use the sexist phrases, quotes towards us guys "Man Up, Be a Man, Grow a Pair, Grow Some Balls, Sack it Up" makes me feel like punching a guy, dude who would say that to me in person
Not all modern women require this of men, but each person is an individual, and yes, cultural acceptance is also something that affects us. Also, to a great degree, what the men were like that we grew up with. My husband was actually pretty shy when we met, I think he only asked me out because my BIL pressured him to. He's never hunted, he treats our cats like babies, and he loves to cook. But one thing he had in common with my dad and brothers was that he liked to work on cars, and for some reason I felt at home with that. In contrast there was a guy I dated once, and it was a complete turn-off to me to learn that he didn't even know how to check the oil level in his car. Because the men I grew up with were different, I think that was why it sort of shocked me. (But I also knew how to check the oil in my car, and I couldn't understand anyone who drove a car and didn't.)
So it's sometimes a little thing. It seems silly and superficial or even sexist, but these things affect us at a gut level, and that's why I was insistent about evolution earlier. If there's one area in our modern lives in which we still rely heavily on instincts and gut-level responses, it's in choosing or accepting a mate. Attraction isn't something you can calculate, it's almost completely feeling and instinct based. Which is why we always hear that love is blind, or stupid. It quite often is!
I just hate, despise, loathe on how we guys have to get labeled p*****s, wimps, cowards for not approaching, not making a move, yeah i may lack the balls, guts, courage to approach a girl, talk to her and ask her out, but i'm not afraid of standing up for myself, overall, i just hate, despise, loathe on how life, society, culture, expects us guys to toughen it up all the time, to be all warrior-like, etc.
This one guy said this to me on a Plentyoffish thread, on the forums a few years ago and thats when i had just had enough of hearing the phrase, quote "Man Up, Be a Man, Grow a Pair, Grow Some Balls" over and over, he said:
"No bro, it isn't. And i don't want to be a**** but seriously this is like the eleventh thread you've complained in.
F*cking grow a pair. Seriously, man up. You need to have a spine, NO ONE respects a door mat, and you'll NEVER get a relationship without respect. Realize that YOU are in control of your own destiny and women don't OWE you sh**, not a relationship, a bj, love, respect, sympathy, NONE of it.
You gotta EARN it. EARN it by realising that you don't NEED to have a chick to validate your existance, realize that people try to help you all the time, but your LAZY ass ALWAYS blames society instead of taking initiative and making yourself more attractive the opposite sex. ADAPT! Don't cry about women not wanting you, find out what they want and use that to make yourself more attractive.
If you dig dogs? Volunteer at a shelter. Line dancing, learn a language, be a tutor for college kids, DAMN ANYTHING. Get involved in life, don't watch it from the back seat, maybe then a woman would want to be your co-pilot.
Oh, and Be a Man."
It's like as if life, society, is like a Drill Sergeant to us guys
WantToHaveALife
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25 Sep 2012, 11:31 am
SpiritBlooms wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
SpiritBlooms wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
thewhitrbbit wrote:
Tradition.
You either have to adapt, or pray that you'll catch the eye of a girl who bucks tradition.
You either have to adapt, or pray that you'll catch the eye of a girl who bucks tradition.
it gets annoying how girls always argue, say that "guys are hunters, blah blah blah", pisses me off too, i also hate it, it gets annoying, frustrating, on how life, society, culture, or just people in general, they always use the sexist phrases, quotes towards us guys "Man Up, Be a Man, Grow a Pair, Grow Some Balls, Sack it Up" makes me feel like punching a guy, dude who would say that to me in person
Not all modern women require this of men, but each person is an individual, and yes, cultural acceptance is also something that affects us. Also, to a great degree, what the men were like that we grew up with. My husband was actually pretty shy when we met, I think he only asked me out because my BIL pressured him to. He's never hunted, he treats our cats like babies, and he loves to cook. But one thing he had in common with my dad and brothers was that he liked to work on cars, and for some reason I felt at home with that. In contrast there was a guy I dated once, and it was a complete turn-off to me to learn that he didn't even know how to check the oil level in his car. Because the men I grew up with were different, I think that was why it sort of shocked me. (But I also knew how to check the oil in my car, and I couldn't understand anyone who drove a car and didn't.)
So it's sometimes a little thing. It seems silly and superficial or even sexist, but these things affect us at a gut level, and that's why I was insistent about evolution earlier. If there's one area in our modern lives in which we still rely heavily on instincts and gut-level responses, it's in choosing or accepting a mate. Attraction isn't something you can calculate, it's almost completely feeling and instinct based. Which is why we always hear that love is blind, or stupid. It quite often is!
I just hate, despise, loathe on how we guys have to get labeled p*****s, wimps, cowards for not approaching, not making a move, yeah i may lack the balls, guts, courage to approach a girl, talk to her and ask her out, but i'm not afraid of standing up for myself, overall, i just hate, despise, loathe on how life, society, culture, expects us guys to toughen it up all the time, to be all warrior-like, etc.
This one guy said this to me on a Plentyoffish thread, on the forums a few years ago and thats when i had just had enough of hearing the phrase, quote "Man Up, Be a Man, Grow a Pair, Grow Some Balls" over and over, he said:
"No bro, it isn't. And i don't want to be a**** but seriously this is like the eleventh thread you've complained in.
F*cking grow a pair. Seriously, man up. You need to have a spine, NO ONE respects a door mat, and you'll NEVER get a relationship without respect. Realize that YOU are in control of your own destiny and women don't OWE you sh**, not a relationship, a bj, love, respect, sympathy, NONE of it.
You gotta EARN it. EARN it by realising that you don't NEED to have a chick to validate your existance, realize that people try to help you all the time, but your LAZY ass ALWAYS blames society instead of taking initiative and making yourself more attractive the opposite sex. ADAPT! Don't cry about women not wanting you, find out what they want and use that to make yourself more attractive.
If you dig dogs? Volunteer at a shelter. Line dancing, learn a language, be a tutor for college kids, DAMN ANYTHING. Get involved in life, don't watch it from the back seat, maybe then a woman would want to be your co-pilot.
Oh, and Be a Man."
It's like as if life, society, is like a Drill Sergeant to us guys
yeah i just choose to rebel against societies, life's rules, as in unwritten rules like that, but sometimes i have no choice but to adapt to them
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26 Sep 2012, 1:03 am
SpiritBlooms wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
thewhitrbbit wrote:
Tradition.
You either have to adapt, or pray that you'll catch the eye of a girl who bucks tradition.
You either have to adapt, or pray that you'll catch the eye of a girl who bucks tradition.
it gets annoying how girls always argue, say that "guys are hunters, blah blah blah", pisses me off too, i also hate it, it gets annoying, frustrating, on how life, society, culture, or just people in general, they always use the sexist phrases, quotes towards us guys "Man Up, Be a Man, Grow a Pair, Grow Some Balls, Sack it Up" makes me feel like punching a guy, dude who would say that to me in person
Not all modern women require this of men, but each person is an individual, and yes, cultural acceptance is also something that affects us. Also, to a great degree, what the men were like that we grew up with. My husband was actually pretty shy when we met, I think he only asked me out because my BIL pressured him to. He's never hunted, he treats our cats like babies, and he loves to cook. But one thing he had in common with my dad and brothers was that he liked to work on cars, and for some reason I felt at home with that. In contrast there was a guy I dated once, and it was a complete turn-off to me to learn that he didn't even know how to check the oil level in his car. Because the men I grew up with were different, I think that was why it sort of shocked me. (But I also knew how to check the oil in my car, and I couldn't understand anyone who drove a car and didn't.)
So it's sometimes a little thing. It seems silly and superficial or even sexist, but these things affect us at a gut level, and that's why I was insistent about evolution earlier. If there's one area in our modern lives in which we still rely heavily on instincts and gut-level responses, it's in choosing or accepting a mate. Attraction isn't something you can calculate, it's almost completely feeling and instinct based. Which is why we always hear that love is blind, or stupid. It quite often is!
To anthropomorphize the possible "logic" of this evolutionarily...
"The genes of my parents have survived this long. Must be good for somethin!"
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26 Sep 2012, 1:32 am
ValentineWiggin wrote:
SpiritBlooms wrote:
WantToHaveALife wrote:
thewhitrbbit wrote:
Tradition.
You either have to adapt, or pray that you'll catch the eye of a girl who bucks tradition.
You either have to adapt, or pray that you'll catch the eye of a girl who bucks tradition.
it gets annoying how girls always argue, say that "guys are hunters, blah blah blah", pisses me off too, i also hate it, it gets annoying, frustrating, on how life, society, culture, or just people in general, they always use the sexist phrases, quotes towards us guys "Man Up, Be a Man, Grow a Pair, Grow Some Balls, Sack it Up" makes me feel like punching a guy, dude who would say that to me in person
Not all modern women require this of men, but each person is an individual, and yes, cultural acceptance is also something that affects us. Also, to a great degree, what the men were like that we grew up with. My husband was actually pretty shy when we met, I think he only asked me out because my BIL pressured him to. He's never hunted, he treats our cats like babies, and he loves to cook. But one thing he had in common with my dad and brothers was that he liked to work on cars, and for some reason I felt at home with that. In contrast there was a guy I dated once, and it was a complete turn-off to me to learn that he didn't even know how to check the oil level in his car. Because the men I grew up with were different, I think that was why it sort of shocked me. (But I also knew how to check the oil in my car, and I couldn't understand anyone who drove a car and didn't.)
So it's sometimes a little thing. It seems silly and superficial or even sexist, but these things affect us at a gut level, and that's why I was insistent about evolution earlier. If there's one area in our modern lives in which we still rely heavily on instincts and gut-level responses, it's in choosing or accepting a mate. Attraction isn't something you can calculate, it's almost completely feeling and instinct based. Which is why we always hear that love is blind, or stupid. It quite often is!
To anthropomorphize the possible "logic" of this evolutionarily...
"The genes of my parents have survived this long. Must be good for somethin!"
There are times i want to violently explode, but i keep myself under control because i know the consequences
26 Sep 2012, 2:06 am
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26 Sep 2012, 6:09 pm
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