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31 Dec 2012, 3:21 am

I got plenty of body hair, so... I have to shave the back of my neck like every 3 days, and I gotta shave my face everyday. Can't grow a full goatee (can't connect) but yeah. Test levels are fine for me I guess, it's the adrenal hormones that get messed up for me.

The only thing I wish for is to get out of perma-bulk mode, f*****g 17% bodyfat. It's at that weird stage where you're not really "fat" but you're not "ripped" either. You're in that 70sbig swole mode. Meh.

Ah, OK, that's not as insane. I was gonna say, 2000mg test by itself is like an IFBB pro amount to take. After finding out steroids weren't as simple as "TAKE DBOL GET REALLY STRONG YEAH!!111" they sorta lost appeal to me.

As far as supps go, I'm super cheap and just buy dried herbs of stuff and make herbal teas. After having studied Chinese medicine a bit more, that's really helpful in figuring out what herbs and foods do what to the body, it's pretty neat.



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31 Dec 2012, 3:28 am

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I got plenty of body hair, so... I have to shave the back of my neck like every 3 days, and I gotta shave my face everyday. Can't grow a full goatee (can't connect) but yeah. Test levels are fine for me I guess, it's the adrenal hormones that get messed up for me.

The only thing I wish for is to get out of perma-bulk mode, f***ing 17% bodyfat. It's at that weird stage where you're not really "fat" but you're not "ripped" either. You're in that 70sbig swole mode. Meh.

Ah, OK, that's not as insane. I was gonna say, 2000mg test by itself is like an IFBB pro amount to take. After finding out steroids weren't as simple as "TAKE DBOL GET REALLY STRONG YEAH! !111" they sorta lost appeal to me.

As far as supps go, I'm super cheap and just buy dried herbs of stuff and make herbal teas. After having studied Chinese medicine a bit more, that's really helpful in figuring out what herbs and foods do what to the body, it's pretty neat.


I'm in bulk mode at the moment and I'm at 220, aiming to be 250 by Summer. I don't think it's worth cutting until you are happy with your size and you are maintaining it with the right caloric intake.

As far as food goes, I get everything at the cheapest possible price so loads of eggs, chicken, tuna, potatoes, pasta, rice and sardines. Bulking can be done with a budget but you need to be willing to eat value or budget food.



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31 Dec 2012, 4:36 am

I honestly wish I was 130lbs. I don't understand really the whole getting "big" thing. I wish I could just be super strong at a low bodyweight. Even before lifting, I was like 180 at 5'9 at probably 17-20% bodyfat, which is fairly big. But being hyoogzors isn't good for figure skating, nor weight classed lifting. But, despite a 10lb lean mass gain, skating's improved, power to weight ratio. I figure for me 130 would be concentration camp weight, and unattainable, so to improve power to weight, I have to improve power. Ideally, I'd like to be 170s, or 180.

Just don't get stuck permabulking and decide to say screw it all and become a superheavyweight powerlifter, now.... 250, even with AAS, seems a bit dreamer bulk territory, imo. If you wanna see the ultimate powerlifter dreamer bulk who actually managed to cut down, look up David Gulledge, competed at 300 at 6 foot something, injured something and cut down to 265, had a 700 shirted bench at that weight, too.



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31 Dec 2012, 5:30 am

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I honestly wish I was 130lbs. I don't understand really the whole getting "big" thing. I wish I could just be super strong at a low bodyweight. Even before lifting, I was like 180 at 5'9 at probably 17-20% bodyfat, which is fairly big. But being hyoogzors isn't good for figure skating, nor weight classed lifting. But, despite a 10lb lean mass gain, skating's improved, power to weight ratio. I figure for me 130 would be concentration camp weight, and unattainable, so to improve power to weight, I have to improve power. Ideally, I'd like to be 170s, or 180.

Just don't get stuck permabulking and decide to say screw it all and become a superheavyweight powerlifter, now.... 250, even with AAS, seems a bit dreamer bulk territory, imo. If you wanna see the ultimate powerlifter dreamer bulk who actually managed to cut down, look up David Gulledge, competed at 300 at 6 foot something, injured something and cut down to 265, had a 700 shirted bench at that weight, too.


If you can be light and super strong naturally, I'd say go for it because I think it's great when those guys that are 165lbs in Olympics are lifting several times their bodyweight. Depends on personal goals to be honest, I work out for aesthetics and I spend a lot of time on my traps, chest, shoulders and biceps since when you are wearing a t-shirt or vest, that's what people are most likely to notice. Size doesn't always mean lots of strength and lots of strength doesn't always come with size and that's one thing that not everyone realizes.



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31 Dec 2012, 6:32 am

You seem to operate on the premise "I want this from the world therefore the world must give it to me!'

No, the world does not operate like this at all and your demanding attitude is the main problem

If these single young women don't find anything likeable in you they are under no obligation to like you - it's a simple as that!

This could be due to not liking how you look, not liking your personality or a combination of both.

When a person is good looking people are often quite forgiving of social ineptitude so I'm guessing you're probably just not that good looking and then your social deficits magnify the problem.

If you keep trying to make these women like you as you think you deserve it, you will make them dislike you even more and might even get a reputation as someone who harasses women so at the first sign a girl doesn't like you I'd just back right off and go and talk to people who do.

You seem to be able to pick up when they dislike you but not accept it and act accordingly, due to your wounded ego.

Your behaviour is therefore dysfunctional

It's one thing asking for advice, but it's another thing actually taking it

(I'm predicting another 'why are there so many sub-standard aspie women with partners when
a fine specimen of manhood like myself can't get a partner?!'-type threads any time soon! :roll: )



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31 Dec 2012, 8:44 am

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young women have more estrogen and are attracted to testosterone, so you either have it or you don't, but you could get in on the lesbian side if you aren't alpha material and wait for a looong time, or else go get some body building supplements and work out and turn into a douche, either way women need to get a release and we see it as a cleansing so figure that out


Yeah, more testosterone is pretty f***ing awesome. Just lifting itself will cause adaptations for more testosterone. Also, I find eating lots of eggs. Eggs are pretty awesome. Need that cholesterol to be a precursor for more hormones.


Or you can take a testosterone shot, I'm planning to inject 2000mg a week soon, I'm currently on 950mg.

Regarding turning into a douche, increased dosages of testosterone won't do that if you are emotionally disciplined, it can really depend on the person.


i thought you said you were all "natty"



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31 Dec 2012, 11:40 am

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young women have more estrogen and are attracted to testosterone, so you either have it or you don't, but you could get in on the lesbian side if you aren't alpha material and wait for a looong time, or else go get some body building supplements and work out and turn into a douche, either way women need to get a release and we see it as a cleansing so figure that out


Yeah, more testosterone is pretty f***ing awesome. Just lifting itself will cause adaptations for more testosterone. Also, I find eating lots of eggs. Eggs are pretty awesome. Need that cholesterol to be a precursor for more hormones.


Or you can take a testosterone shot, I'm planning to inject 2000mg a week soon, I'm currently on 950mg.

Regarding turning into a douche, increased dosages of testosterone won't do that if you are emotionally disciplined, it can really depend on the person.


i thought you said you were all "natty"


That's the only sort of moral problem I have with juice. The fact that most athletes, and all the random fitness models and whatnot you see are on it, but aren't honest about it. So the problem comes that people have unrealistic expectations, because they're comparing themselves to people on drugs. Also, if you're a personal trainer or something like that, it's a bit disingenuous, because people will look up to you as a model of health, and the fact is the drugs aren't really healthy.

Anyway, give him credit where it's due, he's openly talking about it on here, which is more than a lot of users would do.

Wolf, as far as aesthetic goals, I like good shoulders. Don't like a big chest or arms, it looks weird to me to have things disproportionate. So I prefer the kinda "dense" look Olympic lifters and powerlifters tend to have. http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/dmitry%20klokov Like Klokov sits around 110KG throughout the year and cuts down to 105 for competition (mostly through water cutting.) Personally, I wish I looked like Lu Xiaojun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IDqX1eMFmA But yeah, I prefer the aesthetics of that better, it just looks better to me, and it looks sorta unique, too. Everyone goes for the chest and arms thing, there's a bunch of people in any given area walking around with a huge chest and arms, but very few people who walk around looking like Dmitry Klokov.



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31 Dec 2012, 12:44 pm

please stop with the discussion of bodybuilding and steroids. any further posts on that will be removed as they are off-topic. there is a whole area of the forum where you can discuss that.


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31 Dec 2012, 1:45 pm

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You seem to operate on the premise "I want this from the world therefore the world must give it to me!'

No, the world does not operate like this at all and your demanding attitude is the main problem

If these single young women don't find anything likeable in you they are under no obligation to like you - it's a simple as that!

This could be due to not liking how you look, not liking your personality or a combination of both.

When a person is good looking people are often quite forgiving of social ineptitude so I'm guessing you're probably just not that good looking and then your social deficits magnify the problem.

If you keep trying to make these women like you as you think you deserve it, you will make them dislike you even more and might even get a reputation as someone who harasses women so at the first sign a girl doesn't like you I'd just back right off and go and talk to people who do.

You seem to be able to pick up when they dislike you but not accept it and act accordingly, due to your wounded ego.

Your behaviour is therefore dysfunctional

It's one thing asking for advice, but it's another thing actually taking it

(I'm predicting another 'why are there so many sub-standard aspie women with partners when
a fine specimen of manhood like myself can't get a partner?!'-type threads any time soon! :roll: )


oh,no one of these ''i have entitlement issues speech'' again. nope, your wrong. Single women don't like because they are cranky. There a reason why they are single. can you even read? I always write, if a single,young women don't like me then that their problem. If women don't like me, I leave them alone. I be honest, it would be nice to have at least one young,single female friend but you know what if they don't like me. then that their lost,not mine. Plenty of married women and older women respect and like me. I have many good friends male and females (all married).
so,calm down.



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31 Dec 2012, 2:28 pm

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bill i think you just look at the youtube channel simplepickup. i told you this in another thread but you ignored me! i think you;d like it bro..just a suggestion though

that channel is not worth for anything more than just shock humor laughs.
i find it entertaining so at the minimum it's worth that..but i do find it has value for guys like bill and myself. It teaches us not to be scared of approaching girls. For me it hasnt worked as i have my doubts that the vids are fake. For bill he already approaches girls which is why i think he will find it interesting. I just thionk he will enjoy watching their vids for entertainment.


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31 Dec 2012, 3:06 pm

If these single young women don't find anything likeable in you they are under no obligation to like you - it's a simple as that! (quote).

Oh,poor them ladies they will never find out how awesome I am. them ladies are probaly like ''dang it, why didn't we just hang out once with mr.bill, he so cool''.



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31 Dec 2012, 7:41 pm

billiscool wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
You seem to operate on the premise "I want this from the world therefore the world must give it to me!'

No, the world does not operate like this at all and your demanding attitude is the main problem

If these single young women don't find anything likeable in you they are under no obligation to like you - it's a simple as that!

This could be due to not liking how you look, not liking your personality or a combination of both.

When a person is good looking people are often quite forgiving of social ineptitude so I'm guessing you're probably just not that good looking and then your social deficits magnify the problem.

If you keep trying to make these women like you as you think you deserve it, you will make them dislike you even more and might even get a reputation as someone who harasses women so at the first sign a girl doesn't like you I'd just back right off and go and talk to people who do.

You seem to be able to pick up when they dislike you but not accept it and act accordingly, due to your wounded ego.

Your behaviour is therefore dysfunctional

It's one thing asking for advice, but it's another thing actually taking it

(I'm predicting another 'why are there so many sub-standard aspie women with partners when
a fine specimen of manhood like myself can't get a partner?!'-type threads any time soon! :roll: )


oh,no one of these ''i have entitlement issues speech'' again. nope, your wrong. Single women don't like because they are cranky. There a reason why they are single. can you even read? I always write, if a single,young women don't like me then that their problem. If women don't like me, I leave them alone. I be honest, it would be nice to have at least one young,single female friend but you know what if they don't like me. then that their lost,not mine. Plenty of married women and older women respect and like me. I have many good friends male and females (all married).
so,calm down.


I am calm - you're the one posting an average of a thread a day on the issue

And it doesn't sound to me as if you just accept that these single woman don't like you
otherwise why go on and on about it?

If they're so cranky why even approach them?

Just from your reply here I can see why they back away - you are short and abrupt with people
and act like you know it all when you clearly don't!

You lack charm basically



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31 Dec 2012, 7:42 pm

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If these single young women don't find anything likeable in you they are under no obligation to like you - it's a simple as that! (quote).

Oh,poor them ladies they will never find out how awesome I am. them ladies are probaly like ''dang it, why didn't we just hang out once with mr.bill, he so cool''.


I'm not sure I understand your logic here - are you satirising yourself or saying they really are missing out on your awesome personality?



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31 Dec 2012, 7:52 pm

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If these single young women don't find anything likeable in you they are under no obligation to like you - it's a simple as that! (quote).

Oh,poor them ladies they will never find out how awesome I am. them ladies are probaly like ''dang it, why didn't we just hang out once with mr.bill, he so cool''.


I'm not sure I understand your logic here - are you satirising yourself or saying they really are missing out on your awesome personality?


yep, they are missing out my awesome personality. Im like ''hey how are you'' and the single ladies are like ''we hate you, your a wimp''
then they see me with some married woman and they (single woman) go: ''dang it, look how cool he is, why did we rejected him''



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31 Dec 2012, 7:55 pm

billiscool wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
billiscool wrote:
If these single young women don't find anything likeable in you they are under no obligation to like you - it's a simple as that! (quote).

Oh,poor them ladies they will never find out how awesome I am. them ladies are probaly like ''dang it, why didn't we just hang out once with mr.bill, he so cool''.


I'm not sure I understand your logic here - are you satirising yourself or saying they really are missing out on your awesome personality?


yep, they are missing out my awesome personality. Im like ''hey how are you'' and the single ladies are like ''we hate you, your a wimp''
then they see me with some married woman and they (single woman) go: ''dang it, look how cool he is, why did we rejected him''


So you get the last laugh Bill, what are you worrying about?

Also, just wait until these single women are married then they'll like you!



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31 Dec 2012, 7:59 pm

nessa238 wrote:
billiscool wrote:
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You seem to operate on the premise "I want this from the world therefore the world must give it to me!'

No, the world does not operate like this at all and your demanding attitude is the main problem

If these single young women don't find anything likeable in you they are under no obligation to like you - it's a simple as that!

This could be due to not liking how you look, not liking your personality or a combination of both.

When a person is good looking people are often quite forgiving of social ineptitude so I'm guessing you're probably just not that good looking and then your social deficits magnify the problem.

If you keep trying to make these women like you as you think you deserve it, you will make them dislike you even more and might even get a reputation as someone who harasses women so at the first sign a girl doesn't like you I'd just back right off and go and talk to people who do.

You seem to be able to pick up when they dislike you but not accept it and act accordingly, due to your wounded ego.

Your behaviour is therefore dysfunctional

It's one thing asking for advice, but it's another thing actually taking it

(I'm predicting another 'why are there so many sub-standard aspie women with partners when
a fine specimen of manhood like myself can't get a partner?!'-type threads any time soon! :roll: )


oh,no one of these ''i have entitlement issues speech'' again. nope, your wrong. Single women don't like because they are cranky. There a reason why they are single. can you even read? I always write, if a single,young women don't like me then that their problem. If women don't like me, I leave them alone. I be honest, it would be nice to have at least one young,single female friend but you know what if they don't like me. then that their lost,not mine. Plenty of married women and older women respect and like me. I have many good friends male and females (all married).
so,calm down.


I am calm - you're the one posting an average of a thread a day on the issue

And it doesn't sound to me as if you just accept that these single woman don't like you
otherwise why go on and on about it?

If they're so cranky why even approach them?

Just from your reply here I can see why they back away - you are short and abrupt with people
and act like you know it all when you clearly don't!

You lack charm basically


um, Im not short Im 6 feet tall. no, Im cool. the single young lady I talk to are just cranky. you probaly wouldn't like them either if you meet them.
I such a cool guy that I just go up to any lady and talk to them. Because that what awesome people do.
Im sure these young single woman would probaly hate you too. they hate everyone. that why they are single. Their not cool.
and why do I approach them because they look cool but then I find out there not.