NT women cant stand aspie men!
The real underlying point here, imo, is that atm both me and Billis are feeling a bit weary from the specific challenges asperguys face, cause the weirdness tends to hurt our attractiveness more, let's be honest about it.
how do you know how attractive you are?
I presume it to be quite low, cause I have to bend over backwards to attract women, and even then I'm not terribly good at it. Then you see how the successful men get their ladies, and they act "alpha". It's throughout their entire mannerisms, speech, body language, it just wins.
The real underlying point here, imo, is that atm both me and Billis are feeling a bit weary from the specific challenges asperguys face, cause the weirdness tends to hurt our attractiveness more, let's be honest about it.
yes, I never claim that all aspie women can get dates and all aspie men can't get dates. However aspie women have a lot better of chance of getting a date than an aspie man can.
look, I am not a stud. however can I talk to women better than alot of aspie men can. I think mr.shau does well with women too or at least better than the average aspie men.
I don't mind that I have to improve myself and personality to talk to women and I enjoy talking to women (as long as they are nice)
however, many aspie men find it nearly impossible to talk to women. I have had sex before, I been with a woman before, but because I've had some succes with a woman, I am not going to pretend that it easy for aspie men because it not.
based on real-life experience (various aspie groups) - no, aspie women DON'T get more dates than aspie men. on this board, it might be different (but i haven't seen any definitive surveys, and we have lot of undiagnosed aspies).
what purpose does it serve you to believe it anyway? does it get you dates? does it help you talk to women? does it make you happy? i doubt it. it's much more likely to make you even more bitter and angry at someone, either NT women or NT men or aspie women or whoever. and it's all based on something that likely isn't even true, and if some small part of it proves correct, that only holds true on WrongPlanet, not in real life.
it just my belief. you can believe whatever you want, if think I am wrong, then go ahead. my relationship status has nothing to do with my belief that ''aspie women can get dates easier'' let say tomorow I went out and got a girlfriend, you think I go ''you know, hyperlexian I was wrong aspie women and aspie men have it more or less equal when comes to dating'' and the reason I believe this way now is because I got a girlfriend. not. If I got a girlfriend, that not going to change my opinion on this subject matter.
and I have had a gf before too. I've had sex before and that didn't change my opinion. in last couple of months. I've met quite a few,cool nice nt women and one aspie women, and yet I have the same opinion on the dating subject.
I met women all the time, I love talking to women (excluding mean one's), the two ladies I've been hanging out with. I walk up to them and introduce myself to them. and there another group of women I've been talking to as well.
if you believe that aspie women and aspie men have it more or less in equal in dating, then that fine.
but I respectfully disargee.
The real underlying point here, imo, is that atm both me and Billis are feeling a bit weary from the specific challenges asperguys face, cause the weirdness tends to hurt our attractiveness more, let's be honest about it.
how do you know how attractive you are?
I presume it to be quite low, cause I have to bend over backwards to attract women, and even then I'm not terribly good at it. Then you see how the successful men get their ladies, and they act "alpha". It's throughout their entire mannerisms, speech, body language, it just wins.
i have never dated any men who acted "alpha", so maybe you are observing the wrong men.
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The real underlying point here, imo, is that atm both me and Billis are feeling a bit weary from the specific challenges asperguys face, cause the weirdness tends to hurt our attractiveness more, let's be honest about it.
how do you know how attractive you are?
I presume it to be quite low, cause I have to bend over backwards to attract women, and even then I'm not terribly good at it. Then you see how the successful men get their ladies, and they act "alpha". It's throughout their entire mannerisms, speech, body language, it just wins.
i have never dated any men who acted "alpha", so maybe you are observing the wrong men.
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The real underlying point here, imo, is that atm both me and Billis are feeling a bit weary from the specific challenges asperguys face, cause the weirdness tends to hurt our attractiveness more, let's be honest about it.
how do you know how attractive you are?
I presume it to be quite low, cause I have to bend over backwards to attract women, and even then I'm not terribly good at it. Then you see how the successful men get their ladies, and they act "alpha". It's throughout their entire mannerisms, speech, body language, it just wins.
i have never dated any men who acted "alpha", so maybe you are observing the wrong men.
i agree. since most people do end up having some kind of dating eventually, that would be a lot of alphas!! !
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I really don't mean this in a bad way, but I'm gonna have to say that you are probably a pretty terrible example, 'spergers and all. Also, you look at today's modern society and all of it's hook-up glory, and there's just no denying the fact that the alpha guy pulling in 10-20 times as many girls is getting a WAY better piece of pie than your typical bloke, who gets a WAY better piece of pie than pretty much any Asperguy.
I really don't mean this in a bad way, but I'm gonna have to say that you are probably a pretty terrible example, 'spergers and all. Also, you look at today's modern society and all of it's hook-up glory, and there's just no denying the fact that the alpha guy pulling in 10-20 times as many girls is getting a WAY better piece of pie than your typical bloke, who gets a WAY better piece of pie than pretty much any Asperguy.
see, now you're changing the definition. most people will date eventually, and there is no need to be alpha to do so. in fact, most women do not want alpha men and are content to date men who are nothing like that. but now you are talking about men who date lots and lots of women, which is something else altogether. if you want to be like that and you are getting upset that you can't be like that, i can't even respect that desire because it is both unrealistic and unnecessary for the majority of people on the earth.
so, which is it? do you want to be able to do _someone_, or do you want to date _10 to 20 times_ what other men date? my point still stands. you're observing the wrong men.
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hey shau you should check this topic out:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt139614.html
here are some quote from there:5) Was or is he/she an NT or ''special''? How did he/she reacted about your condition?
He is NT. When I told him I had Aspergers he didn't mind it, reacted in a postive way. He is very supportive of me
5) Was or is he/she an NT or ''special''? How did he/she reacted about your condition?
He's NT, but is really understanding about AS (and his brother probably has it
5) Was or is he/she an NT or ''special''? How did he/she reacted about your condition?
He isn't an Aspie, but he is dyslexic. He knew about my AS before we started dating, and he took it in stride; it's who I am, and he wouldn't have asked me out if he had minded.
5) Was or is he/she an NT or ''special''? How did he/she reacted about your condition?
Neurotypical. When I told him the likelihood of my being an Aspie (recently, in fact), his reply was "Oh yeah, I can see that." And then he moved on with the conversation and we discussed other things. When I informed him of my depression diagnosis and showed fears that he would leave me to avoid any of that baggage, he sternly told me "I don't want to hear any of that again. I'm not going anywhere. I love you and these things are things to be worked out together." Based on his reaction to that, I was not worried about telling him about the aspieness.
5) Was or is he/she an NT or ''special''? How did he/she reacted about your condition?
They've all been NT and no one ever knew about my condition, they just thought I was quirky.
5) Was or is he/she an NT or ''special''? How did he/she reacted about your condition?
He is neurotypical, and admits that he can only ever have a limited understanding of what I experience, but he tries very hard to understand.
5) Was or is he/she an NT or ''special''? How did he/she reacted about your condition?
NT. I only recently found out about Asperger's. He kind of won't talk to me about it, but seems to be understanding. I'm not officially diagnosed but we both think I have it.
go check out the topic.


Yes, and women really love junior high dropouts...
Billiscool, the questions in that thread were such that few single women, particularly chronically single women, would bother answering them in the first place. The reason you're seeing (almost) nothing but women in relationships in that thread is because that is who that thread is targeted at.
Of course, if that's the only thread you read, it's gonna give the impression that aspie women have little trouble finding partners. But I'd be willing to bet that if you were to start a thread asking something along the lines of "why can't you find a partner," then it would fill up with responses mostly from those women who can't and give the opposite impression.
That thread, on its own, only demonstrates that at least some aspie women have relationships. It says nothing about what percentage of them do, how many they have, or how much difficulty they do or don't have finding and keeping them.
Of course, if that's the only thread you read, it's gonna give the impression that aspie women have little trouble finding partners. But I'd be willing to bet that if you were to start a thread asking something along the lines of "why can't you find a partner," then it would fill up with responses mostly from those women who can't and give the opposite impression.
That thread, on its own, only demonstrates that at least some aspie women have relationships. It says nothing about what percentage of them do, how many they have, or how much difficulty they do or don't have finding and keeping them.
well, I never claim that all aspie women can get dates, just they have a better odds of getting one.
also, the other reason I link to that topic. Is because mr.shau(I think) talk about how us aspie guys have to become more ''alpha'' to get women to like us. where in that topic, the men accept the women for who they are.
for me, I had to do some changing of my personality just to get more women to talk to me and just to be friends.
which I don't mind. I don't mind doing the whole ''be more like an alpha'' to get women, however it not fair that us
aspie guys have to do all these thing, where an aspie women can stay the same and still get men to date them (at least them women on that topic)
also, the other reason I link to that topic. Is because mr.shau(I think) talk about how us aspie guys have to become more ''alpha'' to get women to like us. where in that topic, the men accept the women for who they are.
of course all the comments are about guys who accept the the poster for who she is. If those particular guys weren't accepting, then those particular girls would be single and wouldn't bother posting in that thread. Start a thread asking guys the same thing and I'd be willing to bet that most of them would mention how accepting their partners are.
which I don't mind. I don't mind doing the whole ''be more like an alpha'' to get women, however it not fair that us
aspie guys have to do all these thing, where an aspie women can stay the same and still get men to date them (at least them women on that topic)
(almost) everyone, male or female, aspie or NT, has to make some changes, some compromises, in their personality if they want social (especially romantic) acceptance.
I don't deny that the genders face different challenges in the dating world. The expectation that guys make the first move does put us at a disadvantage. But it is a disadvantage compared to NT guys, not compared to aspie girls. All evidence I've seen points toward aspie women having just as much of a disadvantage compared to NT women.
Say that aspie men have a hard time with dating and I'll agree with you. But nobody knows what it's like to be both genders. The question of who has it worse can't be answered and, even if it could, the answer would help no one.
also, the other reason I link to that topic. Is because mr.shau(I think) talk about how us aspie guys have to become more ''alpha'' to get women to like us. where in that topic, the men accept the women for who they are.
of course all the comments are about guys who accept the the poster for who she is. If those particular guys weren't accepting, then those particular girls would be single and wouldn't bother posting in that thread. Start a thread asking guys the same thing and I'd be willing to bet that most of them would mention how accepting their partners are.
which I don't mind. I don't mind doing the whole ''be more like an alpha'' to get women, however it not fair that us
aspie guys have to do all these thing, where an aspie women can stay the same and still get men to date them (at least them women on that topic)
(almost) everyone, male or female, aspie or NT, has to make some changes, some compromises, in their personality if they want social (especially romantic) acceptance.
I don't deny that the genders face different challenges in the dating world. The expectation that guys make the first move does put us at a disadvantage. But it is a disadvantage compared to NT guys, not compared to aspie girls. All evidence I've seen points toward aspie women having just as much of a disadvantage compared to NT women.
Say that aspie men have a hard time with dating and I'll agree with you. But nobody knows what it's like to be both genders. The question of who has it worse can't be answered and, even if it could, the answer would help no one.
well, I never compare nt women to aspie women, or have I ever compare nt men to aspie men. I've always said that aspie women has way better chance of getting a bf than an aspie man does getting a gf.
until someone shows me evidence, that I am wrong about this. I will change my mind. so far no one has.
and people here can believe whatever they want. if they believe that aspie men and aspie women both have an equal struggle in dating, then that fine by me.
You're the one making the claim, you should be the one to provide the evidence.
I'm not saying one gender doesn't have it worse than the other. That very well may be true.
What I'm saying is that there is not sufficient evidence to determine who, exactly, has it worse. And that, when people here (male or female) make statements like yours, it only serves to divide this community against itself.
Have you not seen the drama that so often erupts in this section? Have you not noticed how many intelligent, rational, fair-minded people have left here because of it? Do you not realize that statements like the ones you are making are the exact cause of that?
And all of that would be forgiveable if you could just provide some valid evidence to back up your claims. But you can't.
I'm not saying one gender doesn't have it worse than the other. That very well may be true.
What I'm saying is that there is not sufficient evidence to determine who, exactly, has it worse. And that, when people here (male or female) make statements like yours, it only serves to divide this community against itself.
Have you not seen the drama that so often erupts in this section? Have you not noticed how many intelligent, rational, fair-minded people have left here because of it? Do you not realize that statements like the ones you are making are the exact cause of that?
And all of that would be forgiveable if you could just provide some valid evidence to back up your claims. But you can't.
you can believe whatever you want. I am not going to openly discuss this anymore. I do understand that my opinion on this subject might be offensive to some. so for the last time, no one has to agree with me.
if you like you can pm me, about this topic but I am not going to openly discuss it.
NT woman: Im dumping you now since you admitted your an aspie!
Me: But I thought you love me for me!!
NT woman: times change and I just said that so I dont hurt your feelings!
Me:
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