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19 Jan 2014, 9:34 am

YourMajesty wrote:

I told him I don't want to have anything to do with him anymore.

Good work, I think you made the right decision; you deserve better than that person.

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19 Jan 2014, 1:17 pm

Deuterium wrote:

YourMajesty wrote:

I told him I don't want to have anything to do with him anymore.

Good work, I think you made the right decision; you deserve better than that person.

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20 Jan 2014, 6:57 am

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Stalk wrote:

I tried something similar to this but failed horribly. I never had a board with something written on it, but I was handing out "free hugs". This guy seems to know how to do it.

Seriously, you did?

Yeah I was 21 and they just laughed me off.

So anyway, another point I wanted to make was.

If you naturally tease a woman to be playful, you are now negging when it suites her.
If you don't give up, like some people would say, you are desperate when it suites her.

So all-in-all, what I can make of it, is that it would probably work on some people. Those people would actually be interested, or as in attracted to that person from the start. So when they reject you, in theory it should be no big deal and time to move on.

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20 Jan 2014, 8:18 am

Been there, done that. Never seriously though. It's kind of fun because you can make such fun of them without them even knowing it. Only you get the joke when you do it though. But, if you have other friends around, one or two might get it.

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21 Jan 2014, 8:56 am

I've seen confirmed PUAs at work IRL and it's not pretty business, folks. Stay far away.

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21 Jan 2014, 9:33 am

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My old roomate was a PUA. He was dating two women simulataneously (somehow without thier knowledge) while also picking up random bar chicks at least once a week. I felt bad for the girls who were being misled and manipulated by a guy who had a very low opinion of them (and women in general.)

ha,funny how liberals and feminist here always blame ''sexism''
is the reason why men can't get dates,yet there are plenty
of sexist pua and players who hate women,yet they have
no trouble getting dates. You know the difference between
a ''sexist pua''and a ''sexist nice guy''One's good looking,
the other is not.

Bill, the difference between a ''sexist pua''and a ''sexist nice guy'' is that the PUA (assuming he's successful) has the social skills to overcome his sh***y personality (at least long enough to trick a girl into bed.) The "nice guy" doesn't so his sexism and assholery is planely apperent.

Successful PUA artists tend to be more sociopathic. While they can get laid, having a helathy fullfuling romantic relationship is nearly impossible for them. Where as a socialy awkward (i.e. Autistic type) might struggle with getting laid by random bar meat they are far more capable of having a relationship.

Here's an easy equation:
1. Good Person + Social Skills= Real Alpha male.
2. Good Person + Socially Awkward= Relationship Material.
3. Sexist a**hole + Social Skills = One night stand or Random hookup
4. Sexist a**hole + Socially Awkward= Lady Repellent

Socially awkward people can (and do) find relationships all the time. Socially awkward a**holes do not. Be carefull you don't end up in category 4.

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21 Jan 2014, 10:22 am

Geekonychus wrote:

Here's an easy equation:
1. Good Person + Social Skills= Real Alpha male.
2. Good Person + Socially Awkward= Relationship Material.
3. Sexist as*hole + Social Skills = One night stand or Random hookup
4. Sexist as*hole + Socially Awkward= Lady Repellent

Socially awkward people can (and do) find relationships all the time. Socially awkward a**holes do not. Be carefull you don't end up in category 4.

so,you proved my point,it's looks and weirdness,that prevent guys
from getting dates,not sexist attitude,remember these sexist,ugly men
are getting rejected,way before,women even knows anything about them.

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21 Jan 2014, 12:20 pm

Bill, I need to understand something. Where have people have proven your point? I think I'm missing something here.

Aside from that, category two types in Geek's posts could have a potential flaw if they spent their money on bar scenes in hopes of picking up.. due to the rejection involved from coming across as socially awkward and therefore unappealing, insecurity builds up. This could easily turn them into a sexist a**hole. But the realistic part is that the insecurity from all the rejection has built up soo much that they might not even fall into the categories altogether. They could be a type 5 (provided social skills are learned and they need to grow comfortable in their own skin) or 6.

Type 5- Good person + good social skills + insecure = needs time to grow (relationship potential)
Type 6- Good person + socially awkward + insecure = just friends (no potential)

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21 Jan 2014, 12:42 pm

billiscool wrote:

Geekonychus wrote:

I'm not sure I know what your point is and based on several other people's reactions, I'm not alone in this.

Weird men can still get dates.
Sexist a**holes can still get dates.
Weird men who are also Sexist a**holes can not.
Not sure how much clearer I have to be here...........

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21 Jan 2014, 1:47 pm

Geekonychus: Now that is a helpful equation. Thank you for it.

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21 Jan 2014, 4:55 pm

aspiemike wrote:

Aside from that, category two types in Geek's posts could have a potential flaw if they spent their money on bar scenes in hopes of picking up.. due to the rejection involved from coming across as socially awkward and therefore unappealing, insecurity builds up. This could easily turn them into a sexist as*hole. But the realistic part is that the insecurity from all the rejection has built up soo much that they might not even fall into the categories altogether. They could be a type 5 (provided social skills are learned and they need to grow comfortable in their own skin) or 6.

Type 5- Good person + good social skills + insecure = needs time to grow (relationship potential)
Type 6- Good person + socially awkward + insecure = just friends (no potential)

Great point! I think one of the biggest issues is that Aspies will attempt to approach dating like a PUA (and/or assume thats how all dating works) and then get frusterated when it doesn't work for them. Thing is, you'd have to be a sociopath to be a successful PUA and Aspies are pretty much the exact opposite (Affective and cognative empathies are reversed.) If an Aspie wanted a relationship and used PUA tactics, they couldn't be going about it anymore wrong if they tried.

The "insecurity issue" is another aspect I've addressed before. Reminds me of another set of equation I did in a thread about labels which I will link to rather than rehash:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf248758-0-15.html

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21 Jan 2014, 8:01 pm

Geekonychus wrote:

so,you prove me right again.it's looks and weirdness,
that prevent a guy from dating,not sexism.

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21 Jan 2014, 8:40 pm

billiscool wrote:

Geekonychus wrote:

so,you prove me right again.it's looks and weirdness,
that prevent a guy from dating,not sexism.

How does the statement "weird men can still get dates" prove that weird men can't get dates?

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21 Jan 2014, 8:47 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:

How does the statement "weird men can still get dates" prove that weird men can't get dates?

I said ''sexism is not the reason,these men are getting rejected but
the fact,they are ugly or weird''

your friend geeko,and everyone else,proves my point

can weird guys get date,sure,but that's not the argument.

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21 Jan 2014, 9:56 pm

billiscool wrote:

Who_Am_I wrote:

How does the statement "weird men can still get dates" prove that weird men can't get dates?

1. He's not my friend; he and I have never even spoken to each other outside of these threads.

2. I'll quote you:

Quote:

it's looks and weirdness,
that prevent a guy from dating

You said in your last post that weirdness prevents guys from dating. If you could keep your arguments straight from one post to another, you'd be a lot less confusing to talk to.

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21 Jan 2014, 10:14 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:

2. I'll quote you:

Quote:

it's looks and weirdness,
that prevent a guy from dating

You said in your last post that weirdness prevents guys from dating. If you could keep your arguments straight from one post to another, you'd be a lot less confusing to talk to.

Yes,weirdness prevent these guys from dating,not sexism.
people say ''oh,it's your sexist attitude''when in fact,it's
because the guy is ugly or weird.not because he's sexist.

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