Who pays for a date in this 'sexually liberated' era?

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19 Jun 2014, 12:31 am

I'm seeing a divorce lawyer today. I really need to think about this stuff, because I know I'm going to end up paying more for my child than he does (shoes, clothes, activities etc, etc.) and I want to mitigate against that. I want the house. I want child support. I need to think about school fees, etc. I also need to think about childcare. He thinks that childcare is MY responsibility, he doesn't get that childcare enables him to work, too.



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19 Jun 2014, 1:19 am

Stay single and alone and away from everyone and you wont have to worry who pays for what on a date!Sex? who needs that just masturbate and your good to go!


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19 Jun 2014, 1:35 am

Your income is your income. Keep it in your own bank account. If you absolutely have to have a joint account of some sort, agree on a small share of your individual incomes to place in it, and perhaps have a joint checking account with which to pay for mortgages, taxes, etc. - specifically, one that you're keeping at a very low balance at all times. That way you aren't hurt too badly when things go rotten and your now ex-partner decides to run off with the money (I hope there's not much more than $20 in it). Alternately, you could set it up so that withdrawals and account closing requires multiple signatures, so that neither party can do anything without the other party's consent other than deposit funds.

If you're going to have a joint account for college expenses for your kids, it should be a custodial account that you cannot withdraw funds from or close until the child for whom it is intended reaches a certain age (at which point you still won't be able to access it, because it would be created under the child's social security number, and is therefore their account and property).



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19 Jun 2014, 1:54 am

Azereiah wrote:
Your income is your income. Keep it in your own bank account. If you absolutely have to have a joint account of some sort, agree on a small share of your individual incomes to place in it, and perhaps have a joint checking account with which to pay for mortgages, taxes, etc. - specifically, one that you're keeping at a very low balance at all times. That way you aren't hurt too badly when things go rotten and your now ex-partner decides to run off with the money (I hope there's not much more than $20 in it). Alternately, you could set it up so that withdrawals and account closing requires multiple signatures, so that neither party can do anything without the other party's consent other than deposit funds.

If you're going to have a joint account for college expenses for your kids, it should be a custodial account that you cannot withdraw funds from or close until the child for whom it is intended reaches a certain age (at which point you still won't be able to access it, because it would be created under the child's social security number, and is therefore their account and property).


In the US, you have to be careful about that sort of thing because it can hurt the child when it comes to getting financial aid. You also want to make sure that your darling can't spend the whole wad on Party School on a Boat. But, basically, yeah.



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19 Jun 2014, 3:08 am

Lol! A thread about who pays on a date has turned into a discussion about who gets what in a divorce!

This relationship was doomed from the start. 8O



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19 Jun 2014, 6:28 am

Marcia wrote:
Lol! A thread about who pays on a date has turned into a discussion about who gets what in a divorce!

This relationship was doomed from the start. 8O


Hence why couples should go dutch from date 1 :lol:.



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19 Jun 2014, 8:26 am

One word: Tightwads.


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19 Jun 2014, 11:05 am

tarantella64 wrote:
In the US, you have to be careful about that sort of thing because it can hurt the child when it comes to getting financial aid. You also want to make sure that your darling can't spend the whole wad on Party School on a Boat. But, basically, yeah.


I've found that out the "fun" way, yes.
Resource limits and the like.

Generally, getting financial aid, one has to prove that nobody is able to access that money.
After they reach the age at which the account becomes open to them, of course, it counts as a resource, as far as I remember, though. So...

Keep track of what accounts who has. My grandparents were trying to use a second custodial account for me as a tax dodge, and I didn't know about it until Social Security informed me that I was over the resource limit and I had to give them money back.



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26 Jun 2014, 3:10 pm

Depends on what we go out to dinner for and who makes most money. I always offer to pay my part of the price though. My ex made a lot more money than I did, so if we went out to dinner he would pay the bill (he wouldn't even let me pay it). Then again, the total price would usually be around 35 to 40 dollars. Not THAT much imo. With my current boyfriend I usually go Dutch (obviously ;) ). That's because we often go for quite expensive dinners like sushi or Middle-Eastern foods. Bills can go up to 100 dollars. Since he's only 24 and doesn't have a fulltime job yet, I won't let him pay everything. That would be mean.



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26 Jun 2014, 3:40 pm

Great news!! !! I'll be able to pay for everyone's dates now! I just received the following email:

Dear __________
Please let me know if you did receive my email regarding the death of late Adrian ________ from your country. As his personal financial adviser, I would want you to stand as the next of kin so that the bank can release the deposit to you.

Kinldy let me know as soon as possible.

Chris



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26 Jun 2014, 4:04 pm

I have listened to my daughter and her friends [ NTs'] discussing this. They all say that they assume the man will pay, but they bring money 'just in case." And if they need to pull it out, they pay with a smile on their faces, but never date the man again.

She and her friends pretty much each make between 50 and 90 grand a year, and the men they date ussually make way more than them. BUT most of them have dated poor men as well. When they have, the first date they still expect the man to pick up the tab.[ might just be a coffee shop] After that, my daughter and her friends have often paid for most of the expenses, BUT only if the guy reciprocated with inexpensive, but thoughtful and creative date alternatives. [ putting together a nice picnic lunch, then feeding the ducks in the lake with the stale bread he has brought along. Or whipping up one of his famous omelettes before watching a DVD, Or making that same picnic lunch and then flying kites together[ or building kites together] There is always some type of food[ homemade], sometimes wine [even 2 buck chuck] and and some type of activity [feeding the homeless, painting each others portraits [ if the materials are already on hand] hiking, sledding, staring up in the sky and seeing how big of a crowd you draw by doing that, baking cookies together, going to free scheduled library events, skinny dipping, learning to swing dance from a youtube tutorial, or to waltz to "MoonRiver." Or use a tutorial to learn to juggle,fold origami, or refinish furniture. ] These are just a few examples of reciprocation when the guy [or woman] has very little money.

I know that I am showing my age, but I never have paid for a date. I know times have changed, and this is a good thing. For so many reasons. I am a little concerned that everyone going dutch might prevent some perfectly beautiful "rich person" involved with "poor person" relationships.



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26 Jun 2014, 4:15 pm

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I always hold the door for man or woman if I'm in a position to do so. Sometimes they thank me sometimes they ignore me. I don't care either way.


Maybe it's a regional thing, but here in Colorado, it almost seems like people fight [nicely] to be holding the door for other people. I mean, if you are the first to the door,it is almost assumed that you will remain holding the door until all ten thousand people have passed through.



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26 Jun 2014, 5:16 pm

Eureka13 wrote:
Great news!! !! I'll be able to pay for everyone's dates now! I just received the following email:

Dear __________
Please let me know if you did receive my email regarding the death of late Adrian ________ from your country. As his personal financial adviser, I would want you to stand as the next of kin so that the bank can release the deposit to you.

Kinldy let me know as soon as possible.

Chris


Nigerian IP?



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26 Jun 2014, 5:58 pm

actually, I'm the dead dudes personal financial adviser. You can just send me a bunch of money, and then I will be happy to write you out a check for a gazillion dollars. If you can send the money today, I think it was somewhere in the will that you will get 2 gazillion dollars...and stock in the new hostess twinkies...so, for your benefit,please send the money today..now...why are you still signed in online?



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26 Jun 2014, 8:32 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Eureka13 wrote:
Great news!! !! I'll be able to pay for everyone's dates now! I just received the following email:

Dear __________
Please let me know if you did receive my email regarding the death of late Adrian ________ from your country. As his personal financial adviser, I would want you to stand as the next of kin so that the bank can release the deposit to you.

Kinldy let me know as soon as possible.

Chris


Nigerian IP?


Didn't bother to check - but it made me chuckle. Anything that makes me chuckle these days is worthwhile. :)



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26 Jun 2014, 8:39 pm

Chuckling is good for the facial muscles.