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01 Nov 2015, 9:49 am

B19 wrote:
I can understand why people might see vigilante action as a solution. Advocating it here or anywhere disturbs me. What if (say) the vigilante gang mistake identity and inflict terrible suffering on an innocent person, also destroying that person's future and harming the wellbeing of his family in serious ways? What if the victim of vigilante violence chooses to up the ante and arranges the murder of the person they suspect of setting the gang on them? I get that people like revenge because it feels good to the perpetrator; I shudder when people advocate or see violent revenge as a solution. Chaos unleashed often escalates and spirals in horrific ways.

"Justice is about harmony. Revenge is
about you making yourself feel better.
It's why we have an impartial system".
(from "Batman Begins")


I agree with you, fully, and I like that comment from batman ( love batman, and I LOOOOVE gotham)...however...

That's why you make damn sure the target is correct. Normally, I would advocate calling 911 and dealing with the police. But the police, like many emergency services, are unreliable at best, harmful at worst.

I was the victim of a violent crime a while back. Unfortunately it happened very fast, and I couldn't see more than an arm for a brief second, so I could never find out who did it. It was random attack, motivated by criminal desperation. It wasn't a targeted act of abuse, which was repeated over and over again for years. I would like revenge, but I wouldn't even know where to look.

When the police were called, I was almost charged with a crime. WHAT? REALLY? Yeah...I was also detained for hours, and threatened with being charged with criminal mischief and other s**t. That was more traumatizing than the violent incident I experience. Although I do respect police, I will never call 911 if I ever become the victim of a crime. By the end, I didn't want to pursue the case, and to this day.

If a policeman so much as stops and asks me how my day is going, I will respond,

"It's going fine, officer, am I being detained? Am I under arrest? Am-I-un-der-ar-rest? No? Have a nice day sir, thanks for keeping the streets safe." I will then turn, pull out my phone and record, and walk away quickly. This is not out of disrespect, because I respect law enforcement, and what they do, its the system that they work for that I fear, and that is how I have to treat all police. Many are wonderful, but the few who aren't will make you beg for your death.

There is no justice, when you dial 911.

Chances are if the police get involved, they wont do anything, or they won't sentence your boyfriend harshly. They'll fill out some reports, and they won't go anywhere. Rapists always seem to get off easy.

Police also don't have resources to get involved in domestic disputes.

Justice is a joke. Make your own. We live in a preditorial society, that breeds people who respond only to violence and not to reason. I learned this from a very young age, from being bullied, and coming home to my loving house, and wondering why most of the other children are barbarians. Violence worked. It even made me good friends with my bullies. Violence is the oldest trick in the book, and the most effective when dealing with abusers.

A lot of women are encouraged to learn MMA or krav magah as well to defend against male abusers.

There is also the battered women defense, which is a legal defence allowing a woman to inflict harm or pre-meditate a murder of an abusive partner.

Wow...I really hate abusers. People who abuse are p*****s and I eat them for breakfast.