"Date other fat people if you're fat"

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Tall and big is not the most undesirable body type for a guy. It's the traditional way. What this rule is supposed to say isn't "date people of the same weight" but instead "date people of the same conventional attractiveness".
A tall and broad shouldered men are perceived as attractive by a majority of women that's why they usually date conventionally attractive women and vice versa. Obviously, conventionally attractive women aren't tall and broad shouldered. Similarly, conventionally unattractive people often date other conventionally unattractive people. Women of size may not have much in common with scrawny and short guys, other than similar conventional attractiveness.

It's B0GUS!

No srsly, there are a lot of guys out there, and some of em are even on the skinny side, who are attracted to women who are overweight...and sometimes even obese(BBWphiles). Pop culture tries to shame them by calling them "chubby chasers" but we do exist. If you are morbidly obese, then you should try to lose some weight for the sake of your health but if you are just thick/chubby/rubenesque but still healthy I say don't listen to these people.

FYI: Reddit is a terrible place for women looking for legitimate advice. A lot of redditors are staunchly misogynist to the extreme and many subreddits are total sausage fests.

Men judge women on their weight and women judge men on their height. Chubbiness is VERY unattractive in men because it's assumed that he's lazy and gorges on junk food. Either a guy is "lean and mean" or he's buff(big muscles). Both of which require plenty of exercise of different sorts. But most of all, what makes a guy attractive is being tall.

People assume all that about a man just if he's chubby? Either way I don't find it very unattractive...I'd find an unhealthy level of obesity unattractive but not chubbiness. And having dated both chubby guys and skinny ones, I can say I prefer the former actually. As for being tall, as short as I am most everyone is tall to me so haven't ever really even considered tallness as a factor in if I find a guy attractive or not...one of the more attractive characters in Game of Thrones is anything but tall. I guess other women are weird.

At the moment I'm looking for more short term stuff. I'm not too worried about introvert-extrovert or NT-ND clashes. Once I change into my ideal self more I'll decide what my ideal long-term partner is like.

I'm curious and this isn't meant as any kind of insult, or anything like that. Do you find chubby guys more attractive, because skinny guys tend to be less masculine and more on the feminine side? That's not always the case of course, but bigger men fat or built, do usually have a more masculine quality to them than skinny men.

..I suspect plenty of skinny people like a little extra padding..

Chubby girls are more likely to flirt me and approach me, even the ones taller than me.

The conventionally sexy girls, with good proportions of the body, even if they are shorter than me, are waaay less likely to approach.

Talking from experience; the difference between the two "groups" (grouped in my mind) is very obvious.

I personally agree with Outrider. I actually eat a lot of natural and organic food. Somehow I'm still skinny, even though I eat a lot. I guess thinking philosophically makes me hungry!

I'm well aware bodybuilding does not indicate good health, especially those that abuse steroids or supplements.

Just like a thin person may not be healthy. They may have a fast metabolism, but can still have high blood sugar levels/diabetes, heart problems, cholesterol issues, etc.

And again, same with overweight people. There are so many explanations beyond 'I eat too much so I must be overweight, it's all my fault'.

And, when I say it's hard, I am referring less so to lifestyle and more so to willpower, etc. Finding one hour a day, 5 days a week to exercise, along with 30 minutes of preparing healthy meals you have cooked and refrigerated before the start of the week, along with training each muscle with increasing weights ( a real strain on your central nervous system, joints and ligaments, muscles and mentally straining as it requires hardwork and dedication), along with calculating calories and nutrients, sticking to a strict diet and training regime etc. is both physically and mentally taxing. And indeed it becomes far more difficult when you're an adult.

My original argument, which I still stand by, is I think one has every right to befriend or be in relationships of people with similar health and fitness when it comes to lifestyle, physical and mental, and it's not 'harsh' or bad at all for one to choose to do so. We are far more compatible with those who have the exact same or similar lifestyles and intentions regarding physical and mental health.

'Healthy' is hard to define indeed but generally my definition of 'healthy' is having a body what I consider biologically ideal for a human.

That is, high metabolism, strong immune system ensuring resistance to most diseases, low risk of most body-related diseases, enough physical strength for survival, long lifespan and low body fat - this is the kind of body researchers and scientists believe our ancestors survived on, and this is what i believe to be the pinnacle of human health.

It is also agreed we ate an Omnivorous diet of natural foods plentiful in meat, fruit, vegetables, nuts and seeds.

We eat so unnatural, artifical and processed food these days, it is still generally agreed upon that our body agrees with natural foods the most and that a diet that is balanced nutrition-wise is ideal.

So if you follow half to most of the biological standards for what a phyiscally healthy human is supposed to be, it is then I will consider you fit. I consider good health and fitness objective - to me it is whatever ensures maximum chances of survival and physiological functioning.

I agree it's not the big ripped clunky bodybuilder, but i think the lean body - 'thin but fit'.

Either way, following the established 'bodybuilding' regime crafted by those before me, along with tailoring it to suit my individual needs/goals, is what I follow to get this body. I'm currently 'lean bulking', which means gaining muscle slowly and minimizing fat gains. The traditional 'bulking' ensures fast muscle gains, but a higher amount of gains in unwanted body fat.

I see no reason to criticize bodybuilding when it is just a sub-category of the actual process for fitness - almost all athletes use variations of 'bodybuilding' to achieve their fitness. Bodybuilding just focuses specifically on a muscular body, while other sub-categories specify in other areas.

Overall a good way to summarize is to say my views here are something of a minority. I don't mean to be over-zealous or aggressive in my views if I have been, I'm just extremely outspoken. My personal preference is a female equal in health and lifestyle, though I don't usually ever end up attracted to or dating them. Still, a man can dream.

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Ladies, do you agree with what boo said? I believe a lot of sexy girls can be attracted to him. Am I wrong?

..Stalker.

You got it ass-backwards, I'm afraid. Adipose tissue(body fat) produces a compound called aromatase which converts testosterone into estrogens and promotes more feminine secondary sex traits like gynecomastia(AKA "Bitchtits") as well as moodiness and more susceptibility to emotional distress.

The tall lean body type is highly masculine and is generally pretty rare in women and the advantage is that men who are tall, lean n mean have very high endurance. This whole idea that slender=feminine comes from the fashion industry selecting women who had extremely skinny, rather masculine bodies with very little secondary sex traits and it's asinine to the extreme.