My girlfriend hurt me, but did I deserve it?
I don't think that comparison is very relevant. Women are disqualified from modelling for extremely petty reasons, like not being significantly above average height. I find many non-models more attractive than many models, no matter how much the media and most of the public imply it should be the other way round.
There's no way around the fact that the average woman's body by itself can very much arouse most heterosexual men, while the average man needs to work out an awful lot to achieve a tiny fraction of that power on heterosexual women, just barely noticeable. If they manage to get relationships, they must have something else to offer, in addition to their bodies.
Most guys I know are normal people and have gfs, for common people it's not as difficult as you say. A lot of people in here are socially impaired and tend mostly to approach women via dating sites etc, which is a horrible way to try to get a gf. Seriously, stick your nose out and you'll see normal guys with normal jobs dating normal girls. I don't claim to know or understand how it happens and what they do, but it happens.
I don't think it's not just the problem of being socially impaired, because I always had the same issue. I always put myself in social situations, and was always outgoing, friendly, helpful, and according to people, pretty, unless they all lie. LOL. I always had trouble with getting dates, and if I did manage to get a guy to go out with me, he was an abusive narcissist or on drugs. I think it's people with disabilities in general that have a hard time in the dating world, it seems.
Peacesells, it is because normal functioning people, nicknamed 'Normies', are considered average and we are considered less than average due to our impaired social skills, so we must compensate in other ways, or lower our standards to date other disabled/struggling women.
Of course, it doesn't make it any easier studies show and also in my experiences that men are more likely to suffer multiple mental disorders than women.
Also, as shown by many of the aspie women on this website, those of them that are in relationships tend to be dating N.T. men.
It doesn't matter if they're shy, awkward or goth/hippy/alternative/nerdy N.T men - they are still N.T.
Just go to the 'Aspie women: Don't date N.T. guys' thread somewhere here on the first or second page and you'll see most of them dating N.T. guys or saying ND guys are just as bad as N.T. guys.
Anyway, the N.T.s you see that are overweight/very skinny drug abusing gangtsa ghetto guy usually end up with women just as low as they are on the social status totem pole, and they also are 'less than average' in societies eyes.
And, to the guy who suggests getting muscular - muscles do not change face shape.

"I work hard for my body, so why can't I get a slim-bodied girlfriend? They all reject me. The only 2 girls who showed interest in my my whole life were morbidly obese. Does a guys body not matter to girls or am i just ugly? I'm 5ft8."
What people said back to him in 'constructive' criticism:
"You're ugly. You've got a great physique, but you have a punchable face and that haircut doesn't sweeten the deal."
"You are hideous mate, butter face extraordinaire, you are worse looking than me and I have a skeletal deformity. Jesus christ how do you not want to throw yourself in front of a train with that mess of a face?"
"it's because you are trying to look 'hot' when nature has not made you a hot guy, you cant trick nature. Anyone can bodybuild and get a great physique but the face is the true marker of genetic fitness and unfortunately yours has formed in a rather odd fashion."
From here: https://www.reddit.com/r/amiugly/commen ... ese_women/
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I don't think that comparison is very relevant. Women are disqualified from modelling for extremely petty reasons, like not being significantly above average height. I find many non-models more attractive than many models, no matter how much the media and most of the public imply it should be the other way round.
There's no way around the fact that the average woman's body by itself can very much arouse most heterosexual men, while the average man needs to work out an awful lot to achieve a tiny fraction of that power on heterosexual women, just barely noticeable. If they manage to get relationships, they must have something else to offer, in addition to their bodies.
Most guys I know are normal people and have gfs, for common people it's not as difficult as you say. A lot of people in here are socially impaired and tend mostly to approach women via dating sites etc, which is a horrible way to try to get a gf. Seriously, stick your nose out and you'll see normal guys with normal jobs dating normal girls. I don't claim to know or understand how it happens and what they do, but it happens.
You are speaking truth.
Dating sites are meat markets... jungles where the alpha monkey stands out.
But this is not how society in real life functions, at least I hope so. In real life, "bonding" between people happen, and that's missing in the internet dating process.
But I also get PuzzlePieces1, becoming "ripped" enables you to play the dating game in a "very easy mode".
Maybe not, but, if someone less muscular makes fun of your face in real life, you can destroy their face with a punch.
The "punchable face" comment is hilarious—it'd be interesting to see the commenter actually trying it out.
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Maybe not, but, if someone less muscular makes fun of your face in real life, you can destroy their face with a punch.
The "punchable face" comment is hilarious—it'd be interesting to see the commenter actually trying it out.
Being strong doesn't necessarily mean you can fight. That guy's big, but he's no monster, so his advantage isn't as great as you'd think.
It must be really depressing. Putting all that effort into getting the perfect body only to be told you're absolutely hideous and should jump in front of a train. Poor guy.
The reddit post is in the amiugly which is suuposed to offer constructive advice yet the harsh people got upvoted.
Also, hypertrophy does not equal strength.
Just because you spent years lifting weights in a controlled environment doesn't mean youd be as strong as someone skinnier who's been doing hard labor jobs all their life.
I am 5'9" and 169lbs and 11% BF and still feel piss weak. My bench press has been stuck at 77lbs for many months.
Also, hypertrophy does not equal strength.
Just because you spent years lifting weights in a controlled environment doesn't mean youd be as strong as someone skinnier who's been doing hard labor jobs all their life.
I am 5'9" and 169lbs and 11% BF and still feel piss weak. My bench press has been stuck at 77lbs for many months.
I'm pretty skinny and weak. I haven't tried a one-rep-max, but for my four-reps-four-sets floor press (I don't have a bench) I'm only using 22kg dumbbells.
Of course, it doesn't make it any easier studies show and also in my experiences that men are more likely to suffer multiple mental disorders than women.
Also, as shown by many of the aspie women on this website, those of them that are in relationships tend to be dating N.T. men.
It doesn't matter if they're shy, awkward or goth/hippy/alternative/nerdy N.T men - they are still N.T.
Just go to the 'Aspie women: Don't date N.T. guys' thread somewhere here on the first or second page and you'll see most of them dating N.T. guys or saying ND guys are just as bad as N.T. guys.
Anyway, the N.T.s you see that are overweight/very skinny drug abusing gangtsa ghetto guy usually end up with women just as low as they are on the social status totem pole, and they also are 'less than average' in societies eyes.
And, to the guy who suggests getting muscular - muscles do not change face shape.
"I work hard for my body, so why can't I get a slim-bodied girlfriend? They all reject me. The only 2 girls who showed interest in my my whole life were morbidly obese. Does a guys body not matter to girls or am i just ugly? I'm 5ft8."
What people said back to him in 'constructive' criticism:
"You're ugly. You've got a great physique, but you have a punchable face and that haircut doesn't sweeten the deal."
"You are hideous mate, butter face extraordinaire, you are worse looking than me and I have a skeletal deformity. Jesus christ how do you not want to throw yourself in front of a train with that mess of a face?"
"it's because you are trying to look 'hot' when nature has not made you a hot guy, you cant trick nature. Anyone can bodybuild and get a great physique but the face is the true marker of genetic fitness and unfortunately yours has formed in a rather odd fashion."
From here: https://www.reddit.com/r/amiugly/commen ... ese_women/
I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out these guys are not very good socially, I bet that's what turns off girls mostly. The first one can't even realize he needs a new haircut. He works his ass off physically to look better and doesn't do something as easy and effortless as getting a new haircut, lol. Second guy has a normal face. Yeah, he is no George Clooney, but he has a normal face.
Well sure, if you are not good socially and are awkward you can try to compensate with something like that. Also girls will be more likely to try to bond with you and in that case the burden of the social bonding will be more equally shared which will make your social awkwardness less evident, I guess.
I just don''t agree that to have a gf you need to be ripped, LMAO.
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Agree.
I have also seen many women say they prefer fit and toned men but too much muscle is a turn off and intimidating.
All I was ever trying to point out is:
1. Unless exceptionally strong, most fit young men simply blend in rather than catch attention from worn due to their fitness - its all in the face and personality.
2. Ugly or average faces do not improve much just because you gained muscle with your body.
Finally, social skills still matter. There are plenty of ripped guys in the bodybuilding.com website Misc section with average faces who is identify as forever alone.
Its unbelievable even these guys lose out to the infamous plenty of obese are underweight gangsta/narcotics abusing/emo aggressive types I see have appy relationships.
Well I feel like it's my fault cause my verbal cheating on her with another woman, caused her to become upset, and do physical cheating, if that makes sense.
She is very sorry she says and says it was the biggest mistake of her life to do that to me. But at the same time, when I chewed her out about it, she said it was my fault as well, cause of what I did in the first place.
She is very sorry she says and says it was the biggest mistake of her life to do that to me. But at the same time, when I chewed her out about it, she said it was my fault as well, cause of what I did in the first place.
You said some inappropriate things and cut that girl out of your life. Your girlfriend actually cheated on you and still hasn't cut that guy out of her life, plus she's blaming you for it. Honestly she doesn't even sound genuinely sorry; she should be riddled with guilt not trying to push the blame on you.
In my books, she's gone way over the line.
She is very sorry she says and says it was the biggest mistake of her life to do that to me. But at the same time, when I chewed her out about it, she said it was my fault as well, cause of what I did in the first place.
Dude stop being so naive, this is the most stupid thing I ever heard in my life. You said an inappropriate joke with some sort of ex and she f****d her ex and even kept him in her life. Not only that, but she is also blaming you for her own sluttiness and cheating. Seriously stop blaming yourself, it is really painful to see that. She should be the one on her knees begging you for forgiveness, and instead she is blaming you and you are taking the blame! Seriously WTF, this is ridiculous.
She won't beg on her knees if she's getting her way and living happily at his expense. Rather, he should dump her and forget her for good.
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Of course, it doesn't make it any easier studies show and also in my experiences that men are more likely to suffer multiple mental disorders than women.
Also, as shown by many of the aspie women on this website, those of them that are in relationships tend to be dating N.T. men.
It doesn't matter if they're shy, awkward or goth/hippy/alternative/nerdy N.T men - they are still N.T.
Just go to the 'Aspie women: Don't date N.T. guys' thread somewhere here on the first or second page and you'll see most of them dating N.T. guys or saying ND guys are just as bad as N.T. guys.
Anyway, the N.T.s you see that are overweight/very skinny drug abusing gangtsa ghetto guy usually end up with women just as low as they are on the social status totem pole, and they also are 'less than average' in societies eyes.
And, to the guy who suggests getting muscular - muscles do not change face shape.


"I work hard for my body, so why can't I get a slim-bodied girlfriend? They all reject me. The only 2 girls who showed interest in my my whole life were morbidly obese. Does a guys body not matter to girls or am i just ugly? I'm 5ft8."
What people said back to him in 'constructive' criticism:
"You're ugly. You've got a great physique, but you have a punchable face and that haircut doesn't sweeten the deal."
"You are hideous mate, butter face extraordinaire, you are worse looking than me and I have a skeletal deformity. Jesus christ how do you not want to throw yourself in front of a train with that mess of a face?"
"it's because you are trying to look 'hot' when nature has not made you a hot guy, you cant trick nature. Anyone can bodybuild and get a great physique but the face is the true marker of genetic fitness and unfortunately yours has formed in a rather odd fashion."
From here: https://www.reddit.com/r/amiugly/commen ... ese_women/
Another example:

*Shrug* I'm the more successful one between me and my also ND boyfriend. I have a full time job and he's on disability. He's in college, but he doesn't really do anything else because his anxiety and aspies issues interfere. He's also shorter than me, super average in build, and fairly average in looks. I like him immensely. He's the best person I've ever dated.
We both have multiple mental disorders. I couldn't say which of us is worse because we don't have the exact same lineup of issues. He's aspies/ADHD/anxiety/depression and I'm aspies/ADHD/anxiety/bipolar/potentially histrionic idk. I need a diagnosis for that. We cope differently, and due to different social gender expectations I'm better than him at social stuff.
My point is we're a good couple and he didn't have to go "below" to end up with me. For all intents and purposes he seems just as enamoured with me as I am with him.
I think the real issue really is that meeting people online is really not the best way to meet people, especially if you're ND. People tend to feel less of a connection online, so they're less likely to give you the time of day if something about you is weird.
Anyways. As for this thread, I think she did something wrong but it's more complex than some people are making it out to be. From the sounds of it she made a dumb mistake when she was emotionally compromised. She now seems to feel secure enough to mention it (kudos on her for coming clean, even if it's late in coming). Really how he reacts is dependent on him. Either he can accept that she made a mistake and is sorry and can deal with everything or he can't. If he thinks he can't move past it they should probably get counseling or break up. If you are still upset about something it's gonna keep resurfacing whenever you get upset with them about something else. It causes resentment.
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