This lady has some serious issues with Aspies

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02 Dec 2016, 3:56 pm

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I didn't make a such claim - but yeah disclosing it on a first or second date will decrease your chances much greater - unless she happens to be aspie too and aware of it.

So you're saying that there are some women who wouldn't running screaming if you told them you suspect you have AS?

Why not try to find one of those women and only tell her?

I mean, the whole point of dating is to try and find someone you like, get on well with, and trust. The fact that there are other women you don't get on with is irrelevant.



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02 Dec 2016, 4:00 pm

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Comparing being on the spectrum to herpes I think is wholly inappropriate. In my opinion there is zero reason to discuss the topic with somebody unless they have demonstrated the knowledge and ability to understand what you are talking about without the commonly held prejudices which in that case then they probably could make the guess on their own, most people are irredeemably stupid in this regard and I don't see an upside in doing it. 'People need to know', why? For what purpose? Discrimination?


Thank you! You worded what I was trying to say perfectly.


So you wouldn't date someone with herpes? How cruel its not like they can help it


How did you come up with this conclusion?

But he is right, you can't compare herpes to AS.



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02 Dec 2016, 4:34 pm

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BtW!!
Just because a NT woman posting here saying that she suspects her man has AS doesn't necessarly mean that he really has AS ffs!
Nor it means that he has AS yet secretly hiding it from her.

None of these men were officialy diagnosed if I recall right.

These women are not pscyhiatrists nor specialists in this matter - and in 90% of these threads they tell us about far more concerning and worse traits in their men than AS such as alcoholism, verbal abuse, physical abuse, cheating, total financial irresponsibility, total assholism....etc

Seriously whether they're really AS or not should not matter at all; I don't know why they come here to ask whether their men are aspies or not.

Like in this article talking about the man calling the overweight as fat loudly - that's not AS, that's being as*hole and lacking class.


I meant about you being preceived as normal not the diagnosis part sorry for the misunderstanding



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02 Dec 2016, 4:36 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
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Comparing being on the spectrum to herpes I think is wholly inappropriate. In my opinion there is zero reason to discuss the topic with somebody unless they have demonstrated the knowledge and ability to understand what you are talking about without the commonly held prejudices which in that case then they probably could make the guess on their own, most people are irredeemably stupid in this regard and I don't see an upside in doing it. 'People need to know', why? For what purpose? Discrimination?


Thank you! You worded what I was trying to say perfectly.


So you wouldn't date someone with herpes? How cruel its not like they can help it


How did you come up with this conclusion?

But he is right, you can't compare herpes to AS.


Why both are not harmful and hold a stigma.



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02 Dec 2016, 7:03 pm

Genital herpes is potentially contagious, ASD is not.

No none is born with genital herpes, it is acquired due to ones own mistakes of sleeping with someone else who has it.

People are born with ASD

ASD is purely mental, herpes may not bring any harm but it would be unsightly to have it on ones body.

Mouth herpes can be gotten by waterbottles towels, etc it is far more acceptable because it is gotten by accident.

Genital herpes is a more preventable accident.



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02 Dec 2016, 7:14 pm

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Genital herpes is potentially contagious, ASD is not.

No none is born with genital herpes, it is acquired due to ones own mistakes of sleeping with someone else who has it.

People are born with ASD

ASD is purely mental, herpes may not bring any harm but it would be unsightly to have it on ones body.

Mouth herpes can be gotten by waterbottles towels, etc it is far more acceptable because it is gotten by accident.

Genital herpes is a more preventable accident.


I actually never said genital herpes. I was talking about HSV-1 that is often picked up in childhood and is not harmful yet still holds a stigma

Also it often never has any symproms to is not unsightly.

Also you can be born with genital herpes due to exposure during birth and saying it's someones own fault for cathing it only increases the stigma



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02 Dec 2016, 7:21 pm

Just to add this means you could go for years and years without showing signs of either oral or genital so wouldn't have to tell someone and could keep secret (especially as it's not contagious when it's non symptomatic)



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02 Dec 2016, 7:33 pm

I glanced at the page & I have better things to do than get p!ssed off reading that cr@p.


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02 Dec 2016, 7:48 pm

Alliekit wrote:
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Comparing being on the spectrum to herpes I think is wholly inappropriate. In my opinion there is zero reason to discuss the topic with somebody unless they have demonstrated the knowledge and ability to understand what you are talking about without the commonly held prejudices which in that case then they probably could make the guess on their own, most people are irredeemably stupid in this regard and I don't see an upside in doing it. 'People need to know', why? For what purpose? Discrimination?


aren't you dicriminating against people who have herpes?


Yes, herpes is a incurable communicable disease and autism is not.



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02 Dec 2016, 7:53 pm

my main point wasnt even about the herpes i was just adding to what sly was saying about people hiding kids.

My main point is wouldnt you rather not be with someone who is judgmental of something that is essentially part of you.

Like someone with herpes wouldn't want to date someone who finds it gross and doesn't understand that it is easy to prevent it spreading. If you don't like it fair enough but wouldn't you want to know early on so you didn't get too involved.

the woman in the op clearly has issues and isnt worth thinking about

edit: actually i didn't even compare herpes and ASD. In Slys post he mentioned people not telling partners about children is worse and i responded or not telling someone about herpes and mentioned because people do worse doesn't make it right.



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02 Dec 2016, 8:09 pm

People have to demonstrate the capacity to understand the information you give them, something like herpes is pretty straight forward where as being on the spectrum needs to be understood which is besides the point that one is an incurable communicable disease and the other being a development condition. No, it's not my responsibility to provide the information so people can screen me out based on prejudice nor is my responsibility to educate people. Are you obligated to disclose all your sexual partners upfront for all the potentially interested parties? I'd say anyone who has spent any significant time around me wouldn't feel as if I am 'acting' with the intent to deceive, I would describe it as behaving or making an effort. How is that wrong?



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02 Dec 2016, 8:11 pm

Not everyone who considers ASD a dealbreaker is a bad person.

The woman in the article is but she does not represent all people who consider ASD a dealbreaker.

I'm sick of this 'Well clearly a judgemental a55hole like them isn't worth your time!'

People have their own indiviual preferences and dealbreakers.

That could be said to one of the nicest people you ever know if they happen to have a dealbreaker when you ask them out that means they don't want to date you.

"Clearly they are a judgemental, shallow a55hole for not giving me a chance!"

Guess what, it's the same thing 'nice guys' pull - She considers me a dealbreaker because she's not attracted to me?

Clearly she's the problem!

There are plenty of good people who are usually not judgemental by might be ignorant of what ASD is or have incorrect ideas of what it is.

There are people who are aware of what ASD is but consider it a dealbreaker still anyway.



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02 Dec 2016, 8:18 pm

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People have to demonstrate the capacity to understand the information you give them, something like herpes is pretty straight forward where as being on the spectrum needs to be understood which is besides the point that one is an incurable communicable disease and the other being a development condition. No, it's not my responsibility to provide the information so people can screen me out based on prejudice nor is my responsibility to educate people. Are you obligated to disclose all your sexual partners upfront for all the potentially interested parties? I'd say anyone who has spent any significant time around me wouldn't feel as if I am 'acting' with the intent to deceive, I would describe it as behaving or making an effort. How is that wrong?


but like i said i didnt even compare ASD and herpes. I actually compared herpes to children.



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02 Dec 2016, 8:21 pm

I don't think somebody that isn't ignorant that considers it a 'dealbreaker' would make the mistake. What is the purpose other than to screen somebody out? It's not like herpes or having a kid because I might not want herpes or I might not want to be father to a child or deal with baby daddy drama, what ultimately is the damage in 'not disclosing' here?



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02 Dec 2016, 8:22 pm

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Not everyone who considers ASD a dealbreaker is a bad person.

The woman in the article is but she does not represent all people who consider ASD a dealbreaker.

I'm sick of this 'Well clearly a judgemental a55hole like them isn't worth your time!'

People have their own indiviual preferences and dealbreakers.

That could be said to one of the nicest people you ever know if they happen to have a dealbreaker when you ask them out that means they don't want to date you.

"Clearly they are a judgemental, shallow a55hole for not giving me a chance!"

Guess what, it's the same thing 'nice guys' pull - She considers me a dealbreaker because she's not attracted to me?

Clearly she's the problem!

There are plenty of good people who are usually not judgemental by might be ignorant of what ASD is or have incorrect ideas of what it is.

There are people who are aware of what ASD is but consider it a dealbreaker still anyway.


I agree with this. My partner didnt know about ASD at all and at first was a bit unsure of what it was. As soon as we talked about it and how it affected me personally he realised that he didn't care.

People who consider it a deal breaker are not worth the effort put into 'keeping it a secret'



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02 Dec 2016, 8:25 pm

nothing is more exhausting than having to pretend to be something one isn't or to pretend to not be what one naturally is.