How can I ask a girl out in a public place?

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As a man, you really cannot judge. Because you won't get catcalled by a woman.

What do you guys mean by catcaller? I've never heard of that term before and don't even know what it means.

Catcalling = verbal sexual harassment.
At least when it's among humans.

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It is when a guy whistles or makes sexual proposals to a woman.

Nope I'm definitely not that way at all. I don't think of my girlfriend I have for sexual reasons at all. I just love her because she's nice,pretty, and sweet. Not because I wanna have sex with her. And by the way I'm only 17 and she's 15 almost 16 in less than a week.

^ that's sweet.

if i can ask...is the age difference a significant barrier for you two? or a barrier at all?

the shopping cart thing? i didn't think you were kidding. that seems kinda cute, actually...if you have the social skills to avoid an argument, i mean. might wanna be careful you don't cause too much damage even if she isn't carrying eggs or fragile glassware. but it could work!

i met my GF by sneaking a kneaded eraser on her head...its presence startled her.

Google is a great tool. Even Google Scholar, if you like.

You're the one making the argument. It's your problem, not hers.

[I took up apologetics in PPR for a few years until I discovered my opponents were committed to circular reasoning. I gave it up once I learned that apparently FACTS offend and trigger people.

So here's a little pro tip: Avoid burden-of-proof arguments and, instead, put pressure on others to support their opinions. And that's IF you feel a need to argue or discuss anything at all. I enjoy L&D in part BECAUSE our topics are inherently illogical and irrational. It requires outside-the-box thinking. Once you bring in rational and science-based arguments, you have to play by "the rules." You get more out of L&D people the less you constrain yourself.

My advice relies on probabilities involving large numbers and a relativistic structure. Generally speaking, people like a structured approach and will accept one that they find works. I don't assert my way is THE way, but rather is A way that is normally effective for most people. Any structured approach that addresses key elements of human behavior will work--I just have a preference bias towards my own which is why I suggest it, thus getting straight to the point and avoiding the burden-of-proof. I don't hide behind some pseudo-scientific front, either, and I don't pretend that my approach is logical or scientific.

Instead, I try to present a logical path to understanding irrational behavior and how to proceed. Love takes logic and makes it look like a Dali painting, hence why we must be very careful with our emotions and not become distracted. I also concentrate on EFFECTIVENESS over logic. Logic doesn't FEEL anything, does not account for nuance, but keeps so much as black-and-white. People don't normally operate that way, instead preferring any number of biases and circular reasoning no amount of rationality can reach. Instead, you have to rely on strategies that work and are frequently known to work. Whether they make sense or not is irrelevant, and here is another aspect of L&D we aspies struggle with.

Rather, focus on discovering WHY people feel the way they do. I learned this in PPR. It's more interesting and quite revealing. Trouble is people seldom seem to actually want to open up, partly because it requires an admission to holding an inherently circular and irrational position, which nobody wants to do.]

I honestly think it can be sometimes. Like when I go off to college in the fall. I'll miss her and see her way less than I already do. I only see her at school. And that means I'll see her even less.

Actually; some Saudi female tourists used to do so... behind their burqua things when they're walking in group, they catcall men. And it's annoying for the receipent at the very least.

You're basically saying that catcalling is something natural in men and therefore it is unfairly viewed as something bad by society.
Well, this is a disturbing view but can be refuted by for two reasons:
- If it was "natural " in men then it should by far more frequent; It is mostly cultural/sub-cultural hence why catcalling is more frequent in some communities rather than others, a symptom of a bigger problem; and severity varies too. I've heard that in South Korea catcalling almost doesn't exist - they even once did a social test there with a woman walking pantless, no man said a remark.
- Even if it's "natural" or at the very least animalistic instictual doesn't automatically means it's ok in a civilized society; for instance we may have deep-rooted violent instincts such as the thought to smack someone getting on our nerves, but that doesn't mean acting on it is fine and ok.

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Yeah I've never been that way.

If I understand correctly, Sweden has a more "open minded" culture. The most consistent attitude would be that MAAAAAAYBE catcalling isn't SO bad, that women should, in fact, feel flattered to know men feel that way about them and hold them in such high regard.

But it's entirely a cultural thing. Society could conceivably reverse itself and catcalling become more widespread, perhaps even encouraged by women themselves. It seems that is something reserved for a particular class of male, and it's really just not my thing. It seems we hear more from women who strongly dislike it than otherwise.

Yea got to agree with Boo here. No one should be objectified like this

Bingo... wait, something is not right, you are agreeing with me without questionning me....

Are you fine Alliekit?? Please answer me! Give me any sign!

trust me im just as confused as you are

Objectified?

Also, when people use "circular reasoning" or "give me a reference" (without bothering to check for one), I know they already lost the argument.