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20 Apr 2017, 8:54 pm

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If I'm working 70-80 hrs a week, I better not have to come home to a house where everything isn't spick and span. The house better be spotless and dinner on the table. And the lawn immaculate.

I've worked those type of hours and yes it's nice to have food handed to you when you get home.

If I was single and working those hours then I would have to do everything anyway.

I agree the household workload should be shared, but if I was a housewife I wouldn't appreciate the sentiments you expressed above being directed at me. I mean that you choose to be with your honey as they are... not everyone has the traditional life skills these days.

I think whatever household chores can be completed in a week in line with the persons physical abilities and health is reasonable. I mean if one person works those 70+ hours there should be time for the one at home to do activities for their own wellbeing, one person being exhausted is enough.


"One person being exhausted is enough"? What does that mean? That is how resentment builds. If both are pulling their own weight, then neither should really be "exhausted". This kind of mindset is why I am still single.


Long working hours are a reality for many, I think resentment can come from focusing on what should be instead of what is.
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No one should be working 70+ hours a week consistently...maybe if there is an overtime opportunity for a short while. But yeah that's excessive people aren't work machines. My boyfriend just got a job that's going to mostly be 7 days a week and like 10 hour days but still not that bad.

Better than Coors that wanted him coming in for 12 hour shifts 7 days a week indefinitely never knowing if he'd get a day off for the weekend or not. I mean what kind of crap is that?

Its a long working week, but good that he will have a day off to relax/do household tasks.


That's a nice way to put it - focus on what is instead of what should be. Unfortunately, that kind of thinking only sounds good for the one not having to do all of the work.


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20 Apr 2017, 11:49 pm

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equally sharing, equally helping, equally interested, equally respectful of each other, equally mindful of each other and others, etc. (or, very similar----I mean, it's nice to be able to learn from each other, as well, IMO).

Everybody wants equality, but equality is different for everyone.

Sure, most of the time both sides need to work, but nowadays some women make decent money. Why is it still a problem that a man makes less in this situation?



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21 Apr 2017, 2:05 am

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nurseangela, a reasonable husband can never dare to tell a non-working wife to cook for him or to clean his clothes..etc because it may be taken in the wrong way and be accused as sexist and macho (it may be taken as if he's telling her place is in kitcken or woman being man's maid. ...or reviving old sexist notions ...etc), even if logically it's a totally fair division of tasks between a working and non-working partners. He may trigger in her some old passed grudges inherited from pre-equality days.

As for you, you can easily demand a non-working husband to do all these stuff, and the whole female society would applaud for you; no one is gonna accuse you that you're reviving some old sexist notions, in the contrast, they would call you very progressive.

So if the housewife is too lazy to cook or to clean, the best thing a husband can do is to shut up about it, and order some pizza, or hires a maid for this if he can afford it.


Your wife's opinion should be the only one that matters to you. The rest of the world can mind its own business.


I am talking about the wife's opinion mostly, if he suggests such things, she may take it in the wrong way like I explained above.
"The rest of world" would influence her opinions still, no one is totally isolated.

Yesterday my wife met with her high school friend and she suggested it for me. Her friend said that I will leave my wife unless she does more house work.



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21 Apr 2017, 5:49 am

314pe wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nurseangela, a reasonable husband can never dare to tell a non-working wife to cook for him or to clean his clothes..etc because it may be taken in the wrong way and be accused as sexist and macho (it may be taken as if he's telling her place is in kitcken or woman being man's maid. ...or reviving old sexist notions ...etc), even if logically it's a totally fair division of tasks between a working and non-working partners. He may trigger in her some old passed grudges inherited from pre-equality days.

As for you, you can easily demand a non-working husband to do all these stuff, and the whole female society would applaud for you; no one is gonna accuse you that you're reviving some old sexist notions, in the contrast, they would call you very progressive.

So if the housewife is too lazy to cook or to clean, the best thing a husband can do is to shut up about it, and order some pizza, or hires a maid for this if he can afford it.


Your wife's opinion should be the only one that matters to you. The rest of the world can mind its own business.


I am talking about the wife's opinion mostly, if he suggests such things, she may take it in the wrong way like I explained above.
"The rest of world" would influence her opinions still, no one is totally isolated.

Yesterday my wife met with her high school friend and she suggested it for me. Her friend said that I will leave my wife unless she does more house work.


This friend is too nosy tho, isn't she?



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21 Apr 2017, 5:52 am

nurseangela wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Amity wrote:
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If I'm working 70-80 hrs a week, I better not have to come home to a house where everything isn't spick and span. The house better be spotless and dinner on the table. And the lawn immaculate.

I've worked those type of hours and yes it's nice to have food handed to you when you get home.

If I was single and working those hours then I would have to do everything anyway.

I agree the household workload should be shared, but if I was a housewife I wouldn't appreciate the sentiments you expressed above being directed at me. I mean that you choose to be with your honey as they are... not everyone has the traditional life skills these days.

I think whatever household chores can be completed in a week in line with the persons physical abilities and health is reasonable. I mean if one person works those 70+ hours there should be time for the one at home to do activities for their own wellbeing, one person being exhausted is enough.


No one should be working 70+ hours a week consistently...maybe if there is an overtime opportunity for a short while. But yeah that's excessive people aren't work machines. My boyfriend just got a job that's going to mostly be 7 days a week and like 10 hour days but still not that bad.

Better than Coors that wanted him coming in for 12 hour shifts 7 days a week indefinitely never knowing if he'd get a day off for the weekend or not. I mean what kind of crap is that?


So you say no one should work 70+ yet your bf works 70 hours.


I thought 6, 10 hour days was more like 60 hours, that is what he is doing now working for a tree maintenance company. Also if its too rainy he'll get off days and gets sundays off, and so far he likes it so that's good.

It was Coors that had the crappy indefinite 12 hour shifts 7 days a week and that was terrible. He was endlessly exhausted and stuck in a 80 degree factory every day. :(...I was worried he could get hurt either at work or driving to/from work due to sleep deprivation.

Also a 70 hour week here and there isn't such a big deal but indefinitely?...that is B.S.


10 days a hour is nothing....during projects And (most of the times there's a project going on)
I work almost daily from 9 till 10-11 pm or even midnight at days if I don't have night class till 9 which is currently M-W-F, a lot of times I work some hours in weekend to finish before deadlines.
Leave alone the bossy sales team/ clients's attitudes; and when something bad happens due to someone's else stupidity, you get blamed for it.
But I don't work in a factory so it's different, It's not a physical effort job.

Welcome to the real world, the traditional "men's role" world....duh, please take this sh***y "privilege" from us; take it all! I would much rather work as cook, washer and cleaner and be a 100% full time househusband .... I am even ready to breastfeed too (is it possible? :lol:) while living on someone else's income.

Btw....who's Coors? :lol:


Boo, don't take this the wrong way, but if you work all of those hours how do you find time to be on this site and text all those women you tell us about? When I was working overtime and had school, I didn't even bother posting here because I was exhausted.


Multi-task, and my work is 100% online front of PC- while waiting for testing to complete, i check phone, or the other tab.... hence why I often write very short posts.



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21 Apr 2017, 6:37 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
314pe wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Sabreclaw wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nurseangela, a reasonable husband can never dare to tell a non-working wife to cook for him or to clean his clothes..etc because it may be taken in the wrong way and be accused as sexist and macho (it may be taken as if he's telling her place is in kitcken or woman being man's maid. ...or reviving old sexist notions ...etc), even if logically it's a totally fair division of tasks between a working and non-working partners. He may trigger in her some old passed grudges inherited from pre-equality days.

As for you, you can easily demand a non-working husband to do all these stuff, and the whole female society would applaud for you; no one is gonna accuse you that you're reviving some old sexist notions, in the contrast, they would call you very progressive.

So if the housewife is too lazy to cook or to clean, the best thing a husband can do is to shut up about it, and order some pizza, or hires a maid for this if he can afford it.


Your wife's opinion should be the only one that matters to you. The rest of the world can mind its own business.


I am talking about the wife's opinion mostly, if he suggests such things, she may take it in the wrong way like I explained above.
"The rest of world" would influence her opinions still, no one is totally isolated.

Yesterday my wife met with her high school friend and she suggested it for me. Her friend said that I will leave my wife unless she does more house work.

This friend is too nosy tho, isn't she?

Well they do talk about a lot of private things (sex for example). :roll:



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21 Apr 2017, 7:58 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Amity wrote:
Quote:
If I'm working 70-80 hrs a week, I better not have to come home to a house where everything isn't spick and span. The house better be spotless and dinner on the table. And the lawn immaculate.

I've worked those type of hours and yes it's nice to have food handed to you when you get home.

If I was single and working those hours then I would have to do everything anyway.

I agree the household workload should be shared, but if I was a housewife I wouldn't appreciate the sentiments you expressed above being directed at me. I mean that you choose to be with your honey as they are... not everyone has the traditional life skills these days.

I think whatever household chores can be completed in a week in line with the persons physical abilities and health is reasonable. I mean if one person works those 70+ hours there should be time for the one at home to do activities for their own wellbeing, one person being exhausted is enough.


No one should be working 70+ hours a week consistently...maybe if there is an overtime opportunity for a short while. But yeah that's excessive people aren't work machines. My boyfriend just got a job that's going to mostly be 7 days a week and like 10 hour days but still not that bad.

Better than Coors that wanted him coming in for 12 hour shifts 7 days a week indefinitely never knowing if he'd get a day off for the weekend or not. I mean what kind of crap is that?


So you say no one should work 70+ yet your bf works 70 hours.


I thought 6, 10 hour days was more like 60 hours, that is what he is doing now working for a tree maintenance company. Also if its too rainy he'll get off days and gets sundays off, and so far he likes it so that's good.

It was Coors that had the crappy indefinite 12 hour shifts 7 days a week and that was terrible. He was endlessly exhausted and stuck in a 80 degree factory every day. :(...I was worried he could get hurt either at work or driving to/from work due to sleep deprivation.

Also a 70 hour week here and there isn't such a big deal but indefinitely?...that is B.S.


10 days a hour is nothing....during projects And (most of the times there's a project going on)
I work almost daily from 9 till 10-11 pm or even midnight at days if I don't have night class till 9 which is currently M-W-F, a lot of times I work some hours in weekend to finish before deadlines.
Leave alone the bossy sales team/ clients's attitudes; and when something bad happens due to someone's else stupidity, you get blamed for it.
But I don't work in a factory so it's different, It's not a physical effort job.

Welcome to the real world, the traditional "men's role" world....duh, please take this sh***y "privilege" from us; take it all! I would much rather work as cook, washer and cleaner and be a 100% full time househusband .... I am even ready to breastfeed too (is it possible? :lol:) while living on someone else's income.

Btw....who's Coors? :lol:


Boo, don't take this the wrong way, but if you work all of those hours how do you find time to be on this site and text all those women you tell us about? When I was working overtime and had school, I didn't even bother posting here because I was exhausted.


Multi-task, and my work is 100% online front of PC- while waiting for testing to complete, i check phone, or the other tab.... hence why I often write very short posts.


There's a big difference between working 10 hours a day at a job where you basically sit on your a$$ the entire time, and working 10 hours a day at a job where you actually have to put forth physical effort.

In the military, I worked 12 hours a day, usually outside, in all types of whether, and being very physical. I could work a white-collar weenie job standing on my head.


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21 Apr 2017, 8:09 am

XFilesGeek wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Amity wrote:
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If I'm working 70-80 hrs a week, I better not have to come home to a house where everything isn't spick and span. The house better be spotless and dinner on the table. And the lawn immaculate.

I've worked those type of hours and yes it's nice to have food handed to you when you get home.

If I was single and working those hours then I would have to do everything anyway.

I agree the household workload should be shared, but if I was a housewife I wouldn't appreciate the sentiments you expressed above being directed at me. I mean that you choose to be with your honey as they are... not everyone has the traditional life skills these days.

I think whatever household chores can be completed in a week in line with the persons physical abilities and health is reasonable. I mean if one person works those 70+ hours there should be time for the one at home to do activities for their own wellbeing, one person being exhausted is enough.


No one should be working 70+ hours a week consistently...maybe if there is an overtime opportunity for a short while. But yeah that's excessive people aren't work machines. My boyfriend just got a job that's going to mostly be 7 days a week and like 10 hour days but still not that bad.

Better than Coors that wanted him coming in for 12 hour shifts 7 days a week indefinitely never knowing if he'd get a day off for the weekend or not. I mean what kind of crap is that?


So you say no one should work 70+ yet your bf works 70 hours.


I thought 6, 10 hour days was more like 60 hours, that is what he is doing now working for a tree maintenance company. Also if its too rainy he'll get off days and gets sundays off, and so far he likes it so that's good.

It was Coors that had the crappy indefinite 12 hour shifts 7 days a week and that was terrible. He was endlessly exhausted and stuck in a 80 degree factory every day. :(...I was worried he could get hurt either at work or driving to/from work due to sleep deprivation.

Also a 70 hour week here and there isn't such a big deal but indefinitely?...that is B.S.


10 days a hour is nothing....during projects And (most of the times there's a project going on)
I work almost daily from 9 till 10-11 pm or even midnight at days if I don't have night class till 9 which is currently M-W-F, a lot of times I work some hours in weekend to finish before deadlines.
Leave alone the bossy sales team/ clients's attitudes; and when something bad happens due to someone's else stupidity, you get blamed for it.
But I don't work in a factory so it's different, It's not a physical effort job.

Welcome to the real world, the traditional "men's role" world....duh, please take this sh***y "privilege" from us; take it all! I would much rather work as cook, washer and cleaner and be a 100% full time househusband .... I am even ready to breastfeed too (is it possible? :lol:) while living on someone else's income.

Btw....who's Coors? :lol:


Boo, don't take this the wrong way, but if you work all of those hours how do you find time to be on this site and text all those women you tell us about? When I was working overtime and had school, I didn't even bother posting here because I was exhausted.


Multi-task, and my work is 100% online front of PC- while waiting for testing to complete, i check phone, or the other tab.... hence why I often write very short posts.


There's a big difference between working 10 hours a day at a job where you basically sit on your a$$ the entire time, and working 10 hours a day at a job where you actually have to put forth physical effort.

In the military, I worked 12 hours a day, usually outside, in all types of whether, and being very physical. I could work a white-collar weenie job standing on my head.


I totally agree, hence why I said "But I don't work in a factory so it's different, It's not a physical effort job."

But sitting in front of pc all this time is also detrimental to one's health; and also the pressure.



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21 Apr 2017, 9:05 am

XFilesGeek wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Amity wrote:
Quote:
If I'm working 70-80 hrs a week, I better not have to come home to a house where everything isn't spick and span. The house better be spotless and dinner on the table. And the lawn immaculate.

I've worked those type of hours and yes it's nice to have food handed to you when you get home.

If I was single and working those hours then I would have to do everything anyway.

I agree the household workload should be shared, but if I was a housewife I wouldn't appreciate the sentiments you expressed above being directed at me. I mean that you choose to be with your honey as they are... not everyone has the traditional life skills these days.

I think whatever household chores can be completed in a week in line with the persons physical abilities and health is reasonable. I mean if one person works those 70+ hours there should be time for the one at home to do activities for their own wellbeing, one person being exhausted is enough.


No one should be working 70+ hours a week consistently...maybe if there is an overtime opportunity for a short while. But yeah that's excessive people aren't work machines. My boyfriend just got a job that's going to mostly be 7 days a week and like 10 hour days but still not that bad.

Better than Coors that wanted him coming in for 12 hour shifts 7 days a week indefinitely never knowing if he'd get a day off for the weekend or not. I mean what kind of crap is that?


So you say no one should work 70+ yet your bf works 70 hours.


I thought 6, 10 hour days was more like 60 hours, that is what he is doing now working for a tree maintenance company. Also if its too rainy he'll get off days and gets sundays off, and so far he likes it so that's good.

It was Coors that had the crappy indefinite 12 hour shifts 7 days a week and that was terrible. He was endlessly exhausted and stuck in a 80 degree factory every day. :(...I was worried he could get hurt either at work or driving to/from work due to sleep deprivation.

Also a 70 hour week here and there isn't such a big deal but indefinitely?...that is B.S.


10 days a hour is nothing....during projects And (most of the times there's a project going on)
I work almost daily from 9 till 10-11 pm or even midnight at days if I don't have night class till 9 which is currently M-W-F, a lot of times I work some hours in weekend to finish before deadlines.
Leave alone the bossy sales team/ clients's attitudes; and when something bad happens due to someone's else stupidity, you get blamed for it.
But I don't work in a factory so it's different, It's not a physical effort job.

Welcome to the real world, the traditional "men's role" world....duh, please take this sh***y "privilege" from us; take it all! I would much rather work as cook, washer and cleaner and be a 100% full time househusband .... I am even ready to breastfeed too (is it possible? :lol:) while living on someone else's income.

Btw....who's Coors? :lol:


Boo, don't take this the wrong way, but if you work all of those hours how do you find time to be on this site and text all those women you tell us about? When I was working overtime and had school, I didn't even bother posting here because I was exhausted.


Multi-task, and my work is 100% online front of PC- while waiting for testing to complete, i check phone, or the other tab.... hence why I often write very short posts.


There's a big difference between working 10 hours a day at a job where you basically sit on your a$$ the entire time, and working 10 hours a day at a job where you actually have to put forth physical effort.

In the military, I worked 12 hours a day, usually outside, in all types of whether, and being very physical. I could work a white-collar weenie job standing on my head.


Yes and no. As someone who's worked both manual labor is more physically tiring, but white collar is much more stressful because you're dealing with a lot more people. Also, if you're doing manual labor you probably only have one boss and one task to complete, with white collar you may have multiple bosses and tasks to juggle and that's mentally exhausting-- and mental exhaustion can lead to actual physical exhaustion.



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21 Apr 2017, 2:44 pm

Color me very surprised to see mods trashing others' work. 12 hours on more or less any computational task can completely melt anybody. When I worked CGI editing shifts like that my hands went numb every night at ~8 & work stopped at 10. I've done greater amounts of manual labor before & it was far less taxing. Not every desk job is stickies & stamps.

I've been thinking lately I could deal with this but I' not sure I can handle that much downtime, when I find interesting work I take all I can get, I'd get a lot more stuff built though if I weren't a primary income source where I live. I always worry more about machines than money.


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Color me very surprised to see mods trashing others' work. 12 hours on more or less any computational task can completely melt anybody. When I worked CGI editing shifts like that my hands went numb every night at ~8 & work stopped at 10. I've done greater amounts of manual labor before & it was far less taxing. Not every desk job is stickies & stamps.

I've been thinking lately I could deal with this but I' not sure I can handle that much downtime, when I find interesting work I take all I can get, I'd get a lot more stuff built though if I weren't a primary income source where I live. I always worry more about machines than money.

Agreed. I can't do what either of you do.

Back when I was a full-time teacher, my brain was totally wrecked at the end of the day.

And then when I was a full time dad to a toddler girl and infant boy, my brain was totally wrecked by the end of the day.

And when time started to free up and I started going more full-time with writing and producing my own music, practicing for choir practice and Sunday mornings, writing choir arrangements and teaching parts, taking over when my immediate superior vacated his position, my brain was wrecked by the end of the day.

And my wife would come in after work and I'd say, you gotta take these kids, I need a break. It's not the amount of work you do. It's how long you've been slogging at the SAME TASK and the tedium. I can put in 14 hours, mixing up childcare, cooking, composing music, practicing, gigging, etc. But you tell me I have to be full on superdad for 14 hours straight and somebody's gonna die.



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parabasis wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Amity wrote:
Quote:
If I'm working 70-80 hrs a week, I better not have to come home to a house where everything isn't spick and span. The house better be spotless and dinner on the table. And the lawn immaculate.

I've worked those type of hours and yes it's nice to have food handed to you when you get home.

If I was single and working those hours then I would have to do everything anyway.

I agree the household workload should be shared, but if I was a housewife I wouldn't appreciate the sentiments you expressed above being directed at me. I mean that you choose to be with your honey as they are... not everyone has the traditional life skills these days.

I think whatever household chores can be completed in a week in line with the persons physical abilities and health is reasonable. I mean if one person works those 70+ hours there should be time for the one at home to do activities for their own wellbeing, one person being exhausted is enough.


No one should be working 70+ hours a week consistently...maybe if there is an overtime opportunity for a short while. But yeah that's excessive people aren't work machines. My boyfriend just got a job that's going to mostly be 7 days a week and like 10 hour days but still not that bad.

Better than Coors that wanted him coming in for 12 hour shifts 7 days a week indefinitely never knowing if he'd get a day off for the weekend or not. I mean what kind of crap is that?


So you say no one should work 70+ yet your bf works 70 hours.


I thought 6, 10 hour days was more like 60 hours, that is what he is doing now working for a tree maintenance company. Also if its too rainy he'll get off days and gets sundays off, and so far he likes it so that's good.

It was Coors that had the crappy indefinite 12 hour shifts 7 days a week and that was terrible. He was endlessly exhausted and stuck in a 80 degree factory every day. :(...I was worried he could get hurt either at work or driving to/from work due to sleep deprivation.

Also a 70 hour week here and there isn't such a big deal but indefinitely?...that is B.S.


10 days a hour is nothing....during projects And (most of the times there's a project going on)
I work almost daily from 9 till 10-11 pm or even midnight at days if I don't have night class till 9 which is currently M-W-F, a lot of times I work some hours in weekend to finish before deadlines.
Leave alone the bossy sales team/ clients's attitudes; and when something bad happens due to someone's else stupidity, you get blamed for it.
But I don't work in a factory so it's different, It's not a physical effort job.

Welcome to the real world, the traditional "men's role" world....duh, please take this sh***y "privilege" from us; take it all! I would much rather work as cook, washer and cleaner and be a 100% full time househusband .... I am even ready to breastfeed too (is it possible? :lol:) while living on someone else's income.

Btw....who's Coors? :lol:


Boo, don't take this the wrong way, but if you work all of those hours how do you find time to be on this site and text all those women you tell us about? When I was working overtime and had school, I didn't even bother posting here because I was exhausted.


Multi-task, and my work is 100% online front of PC- while waiting for testing to complete, i check phone, or the other tab.... hence why I often write very short posts.


There's a big difference between working 10 hours a day at a job where you basically sit on your a$$ the entire time, and working 10 hours a day at a job where you actually have to put forth physical effort.

In the military, I worked 12 hours a day, usually outside, in all types of whether, and being very physical. I could work a white-collar weenie job standing on my head.


Yes and no. As someone who's worked both manual labor is more physically tiring, but white collar is much more stressful because you're dealing with a lot more people. Also, if you're doing manual labor you probably only have one boss and one task to complete, with white collar you may have multiple bosses and tasks to juggle and that's mentally exhausting-- and mental exhaustion can lead to actual physical exhaustion.


Very true, as someone part of the IT team, i have pressures coming from:
- My CEO
- The sales team who make crazy promises to clients
- The clients themselves.
- The bugs/debuging/deadlines/risks...etc.



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21 Apr 2017, 5:15 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
parabasis wrote:
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If I'm working 70-80 hrs a week, I better not have to come home to a house where everything isn't spick and span. The house better be spotless and dinner on the table. And the lawn immaculate.

I've worked those type of hours and yes it's nice to have food handed to you when you get home.

If I was single and working those hours then I would have to do everything anyway.

I agree the household workload should be shared, but if I was a housewife I wouldn't appreciate the sentiments you expressed above being directed at me. I mean that you choose to be with your honey as they are... not everyone has the traditional life skills these days.

I think whatever household chores can be completed in a week in line with the persons physical abilities and health is reasonable. I mean if one person works those 70+ hours there should be time for the one at home to do activities for their own wellbeing, one person being exhausted is enough.


No one should be working 70+ hours a week consistently...maybe if there is an overtime opportunity for a short while. But yeah that's excessive people aren't work machines. My boyfriend just got a job that's going to mostly be 7 days a week and like 10 hour days but still not that bad.

Better than Coors that wanted him coming in for 12 hour shifts 7 days a week indefinitely never knowing if he'd get a day off for the weekend or not. I mean what kind of crap is that?


So you say no one should work 70+ yet your bf works 70 hours.


I thought 6, 10 hour days was more like 60 hours, that is what he is doing now working for a tree maintenance company. Also if its too rainy he'll get off days and gets sundays off, and so far he likes it so that's good.

It was Coors that had the crappy indefinite 12 hour shifts 7 days a week and that was terrible. He was endlessly exhausted and stuck in a 80 degree factory every day. :(...I was worried he could get hurt either at work or driving to/from work due to sleep deprivation.

Also a 70 hour week here and there isn't such a big deal but indefinitely?...that is B.S.


10 days a hour is nothing....during projects And (most of the times there's a project going on)
I work almost daily from 9 till 10-11 pm or even midnight at days if I don't have night class till 9 which is currently M-W-F, a lot of times I work some hours in weekend to finish before deadlines.
Leave alone the bossy sales team/ clients's attitudes; and when something bad happens due to someone's else stupidity, you get blamed for it.
But I don't work in a factory so it's different, It's not a physical effort job.

Welcome to the real world, the traditional "men's role" world....duh, please take this sh***y "privilege" from us; take it all! I would much rather work as cook, washer and cleaner and be a 100% full time househusband .... I am even ready to breastfeed too (is it possible? :lol:) while living on someone else's income.

Btw....who's Coors? :lol:


Boo, don't take this the wrong way, but if you work all of those hours how do you find time to be on this site and text all those women you tell us about? When I was working overtime and had school, I didn't even bother posting here because I was exhausted.


Multi-task, and my work is 100% online front of PC- while waiting for testing to complete, i check phone, or the other tab.... hence why I often write very short posts.


There's a big difference between working 10 hours a day at a job where you basically sit on your a$$ the entire time, and working 10 hours a day at a job where you actually have to put forth physical effort.

In the military, I worked 12 hours a day, usually outside, in all types of whether, and being very physical. I could work a white-collar weenie job standing on my head.


Yes and no. As someone who's worked both manual labor is more physically tiring, but white collar is much more stressful because you're dealing with a lot more people. Also, if you're doing manual labor you probably only have one boss and one task to complete, with white collar you may have multiple bosses and tasks to juggle and that's mentally exhausting-- and mental exhaustion can lead to actual physical exhaustion.


Very true, as someone part of the IT team, i have pressures coming from:
- My CEO
- The sales team who make crazy promises to clients
- The clients themselves.
- The bugs/debuging/deadlines/risks...etc.


Can anyone die if you make a boo boo? (since we're trying to outdo each other with who has the hardest jobs)


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I know a lady who changed jobs from being a civil engineer to a landscaper. I'm sure the engineering gig paid more, but it was all about saving money for the customer. She is much happier now that she can use her creative skills at work. And, her engineering skills haven't gone to waste, as they are quite useful at her new job, even though she is no longer compensated highly for them.



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parabasis wrote:

Yes and no. As someone who's worked both manual labor is more physically tiring, but white collar is much more stressful because you're dealing with a lot more people. Also, if you're doing manual labor you probably only have one boss and one task to complete, with white collar you may have multiple bosses and tasks to juggle and that's mentally exhausting-- and mental exhaustion can lead to actual physical exhaustion.


Nope.

As someone who has worked both physical and white collar jobs, I can say that one doesn't really hold a candle to the other. As an aircraft mechanic, I had many bosses, multiple tasks, and, as an added bonus, if you screw-up, you can easily kill/injure yourself or others, which will land you dead or in military prison. If the worst thing that can happen to you at your job is that your boss will yell at you, or you could get fired, you've got it pretty easy.

I'll take tapping keys in a temperature-controlled building over turning a wrench on the flight line any day.


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22 Apr 2017, 9:27 am

Which is the basis for the 80/20 rule that only 20 % of the time should be devoted towards social skills training and the other 80 percent on finding and developing any talents an Aspie may have. If you are really good at something employers will tolerate a bit of social awkwardness to get that. Or, put another way, all the social skills training won't compensate for the fact that you lack the skills to actually do the work required. Only the most gifted NTs can do that. 8O