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11 Aug 2017, 11:09 am

That's normal.

Apprehension isn't a big deal & we already knew that here.


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11 Aug 2017, 11:18 am

That IS NOT normal, and it HURT. Badly.



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11 Aug 2017, 11:30 am

I'm sorry to misinterpret but again we're here to reinterpret & find peace.

Lots of painful things happen to me & I still love the same people.


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11 Aug 2017, 11:32 am

I still think the guy has MAJOR problems.

To not like "good morning" is beyond ridiculous.



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11 Aug 2017, 11:36 am

Not everyone's a morning person. Some people get stressed on waking up. I certainly don't get happy responses from anybody when I'm up early.


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11 Aug 2017, 11:38 am

I asked the woman I love to go on a morning hike recently. I was told where to shove my morning hikes. I love her anyway.

Not a big deal, really.


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11 Aug 2017, 11:48 am

This had nothing to do with being a morning person. There's obviously more to that hike story, and it really doesn't have anything to do with this. And yes it is a big deal. We never know what to say or do, if an aspie will take it as an act of kindness or an assault on their inner person for trying to get too close.



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11 Aug 2017, 11:53 am

Sure, that was during a music festival whence everyone but me was tired from partying.

I don't take life too seriously because that would just be retaining negativity. We all have to live around all kinds of tension so I make a point of celebrating with cherished people no matter what everyone else thinks.


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11 Aug 2017, 1:15 pm

I hope the guy apologizes. He was in the wrong.



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11 Aug 2017, 1:29 pm

I hope everyone realizes apologies from aspies are valid, equally.


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11 Aug 2017, 1:54 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Once my aspie texted me "good night". I didn't get that text until I woke up the next morning, so I replied "good morning". He snapped at me, accusing me of being inappropriate for saying good morning to him because apparently that was too intimate. Huh? So you can't say someone has romantic feelings over good night/good morning. I don't have a clue what that means to my aspie, because clearly there is some double standard there but I assure you, he does not have romantic feelings for me.



Your guy friend is a nutjob. Sorry.

I was talking about the *everyday* good morning/nights, not the once in a while thing. It's about the frequency.


To me it sounds like Anngables friend was infatuated with her and didn't know how to express his true feelings. He may have been afraid to tell her because he was incapable of reading her and was afraid of losing her like so many before her. After 2 years of chasing her he finally figured she wouldn't like him in the way he wanted her so begrudgingly reverted to a friendship. Maybe his wounds will heal, maybe not.


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11 Aug 2017, 2:03 pm

imhere please forgive me if you have said this before, but do you know his sexual orientation? Is it possible he is not straight or maybe even asexual?


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11 Aug 2017, 2:05 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I hope the guy apologizes. He was in the wrong.


That was 4 months ago. There won't be any apologies. People don't tend to apologize if the have no clue they were in the wrong, or no clue that they even made a mistake. And I made it clear that his actions hurt and confused me.



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11 Aug 2017, 2:15 pm

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imhere please forgive me if you have said this before, but do you know his sexual orientation? Is it possible he is not straight or maybe even asexual?


I do not think he is homosexual. He expressed interest in one woman before that I am aware of but she rejected him. I do not know if he is asexual, but I'm doubting that too. BUT, even if he were either, why can't he be a friend? See?

I don't think he cares about me in any capacity, friend, girlfriend, anything. If he does, it only makes it even more sad for him to throw it away. I also still don't think he understands the difference between different types of relationships anyway.



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11 Aug 2017, 2:47 pm

imhere wrote:
blackicmenace wrote:
imhere please forgive me if you have said this before, but do you know his sexual orientation? Is it possible he is not straight or maybe even asexual?


I do not think he is homosexual. He expressed interest in one woman before that I am aware of but she rejected him. I do not know if he is asexual, but I'm doubting that too. BUT, even if he were either, why can't he be a friend? See?

I don't think he cares about me in any capacity, friend, girlfriend, anything. If he does, it only makes it even more sad for him to throw it away. I also still don't think he understands the difference between different types of relationships anyway.


Perhaps our definition of friendship is just different, not wrong, just different. The parameters are slightly different than that of a romantic relationship. But we still love those that we consider friends, I would gladly give my life to ensure the safety of those I call friends because I love them. As for your friend I would rather not speculate, but maybe he just saw you as a co worker and what you liked about him was the passion he has for his interests. I am sorry you didn't seem to become one of his interests for whatever reason.


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11 Aug 2017, 4:52 pm

The issue I think for us NTs is trying to understand whether an aspie cares or not. You don't show it in the normal ways. You say ask . . I ask and he tells me "yes I care" however friends say to me . . ."he only says that because he has learnt it is the right thing to say . . ." One friend believes my aspie friend is only interested me when he wants something . . I.e. A trip out, some help with an issue or companionship.

I don't want to believe this bit .. . . It basically comes down to the question do Aspies feel emotions . . .. . . And I think is the crucial part of how our relationships become flawed. . . . . . .i am certain my friend does - there have been moments of real warmth and care . . .. . If I text him saying I feel low he will respond within minutes. . . . .he may not know what to do from that point on but his reaction is always to check what is the matter.

However doubt creeps in when I do not hear from him for periods of time . . .. . Why? I think just because the lack of "normal" NT responses means that us NTs are always unsure . . . .. the lack of signs of affection are subtle and often subconscious but mean we are always wondering wondering questioning . .. . This then diversely causes the worst possible reaction questioning, being clingy, demanding attention etc etc . . . .

I have another close male friendship NT(also non sexual) we can go days and days without speaking I never think anything of it . I am sure and certain of how he feels about me because he tells me . . .. he is able to notice small changes in my persona that might suggest I am upset and he will ring me or text me immediately. He can laugh at me when I am irritated which turns my mood around . .. . .

I understand that this difference is the main element of the autistic brain . . . .it is what makes it so difficult to make and maintain and understand social relationships . . . .. I adore my aspie friend I just wished there were a way for me to not question our friendship so often.

Anyway all good at the moment. He text me and we will be meeting Sunday :D :D :D