Why do Normies always blame men for their lack of dating?

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At least somebody gets it.

I have also done experiments with pictures of model looking guys on dating sites, and I acted with a "really bad attitude" towards women. It didn't turn them off!


Then I create another fake dating profile with a plain, educated guy who has the right attitude (decent guy) and yet girls will not respond or talk to him, or will make any excuse to flake.

That's why I've never done online dating sites.

It brings out the worst in both genders.

I did much better after I ditched the "desperate" persona.

Explain why women thought you were desperate.

Blowing up their phone at 8am, 8 hrs after your first date with her? (something I've never done)

Giving them too much chivalry or likes on social media? (something I've not done since internet early years ... 2002)

Lol Kraftie is 55. He was lucky enough to date without the extra hassle of social media and mobile phones.

I did a chat room briefly in the 90s. I'm 56.

Hey kraftie you'll need to answer our wishbone ash fan and let him know what you did that you considered desperate.

He's not getting it.

I just tried too hard to get dates. And I called women too early after we met. And I had nothing much to say except how much I admired them.

I was a salivating dog and gnat to them; hence, they recoiled at my presence.

By the way you come off...body language/demeanor, what kinds of things you say when you talk ect. They can certainly get it wrong, and a lot of us on the spectrum don't always have typical body language and demeanor and such so it can throw people off.

Also yes lots of people are superficial about looks, but not everyone...I wouldn't shun someone for their looks. I will say I don't think I would have gone out with someone I didn't find at all attractive, and I certainly wouldn't have expected any guys who didn't find me attractive to date me.

You observe how you stand, move and all that and see if you can alter it at all. For instance one thing I have done throughout my life is trying to cross my arms less when I am standing around. Someone once told me that if you have your arms crossed you can look 'closed off' but if you just kind of have your arms at your side you look more open and friendly. So yeah I have worked on that, also I have improved my posture...just by trying to be more aware of it and gradually getting used to standing more straight. It is certainly possible to train yourself in these things. I've mostly done that for me though as I care about social interaction, just struggle with it. If I had done it for someone else then I would be basing my worth on what they think.

However there has to be a balance, improving is good...but don't try to change yourself entirely for some person, if that is what they want then they need someone else, or it will work but then you may be stuck in a relationship where you have to wear a mask all the time and maybe even have nagging from your S.O when it slips.

I am not talking about guys who feel a bit bitter, I mean that happens...I am specifically talking about when they make it obvious and are rude with it. Like once while I was dating a guy I was on the bus and a guy I probably wouldn't have gone out with even if I was single tried asking me out. I said I was dating someone already and got called a lying b*tch so yeah to me that says....the person is bitter at women unless they agree to date him. So to clarify I was talking about guys who do in fact put that hat on. I don't think you would do that, idk, but certainly not the impression I get.

Also I guess I don't know what to do about things you can't change...but people without good looks and a good job do get relationships, though not sure you really look all that bad.

A man's mental health is in direct proportion to his willingness to tell a woman, "No." Chances are that if you're as laid back as me about any given thing, you'll still come off as desperate, or at the very least criticized for not leading in a relationship. Personally I have no more time and energy to spend on that bs but to pretend it doesn't have some basis in reality is irrational.

I think I need to learn how to fake love for a woman I find unattractive and avoid physical touch with them.

Part of me wants to. The angry upset part of me. But it's not nice or polite so I don't. I sadly always do the morals right things in life. Just tired of being treated cruelly and like trash I honestly don't feel like women see me as a human.

They're the small minority. There's far more single loser guys then loser guys in relationships and tons and tons of lonely women who can't find "real men"

I don't know either, apparently I'm super ugly and only good for sick emotional entail mind games and then to be thrown away

Whatever you do just avoid the redpill way, its so dumb it works but you end up hating life somewhere after all the sex and cheating and what not. Plus TONS of emotional manipultion and power struggles on both sides.

Okay, my somewhat off-topic, unpopular comment about gender coming in:

"Men treating women as objects or objectifying: Perhaps one of the biggest lies society told us for at least several decades. The problem isn't really so much with women, but men still having the expectations they always had."

I even read about some guys having to adapt or evolve by not looking for a real relationship anymore, and having sex instead. This view mentioned that even those girls will still admit that she is dating or in a relationship with somebody else. So, still not really hopeful for me. I kind of get the feelings of inferiority as being a member of the male sex. As of modern society, is there really any point to being male if you want to be good at relationships? And the environment only will keep getting worse and worse forever.

Unless they find a woman (or man) stuck in the same stupid ideology - then they can have insert ideology here superbabies.