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07 Mar 2018, 2:08 pm

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I don't really mind mild misogyny anymore... this Sly guy is just a bit mixed up. Back in the day, I tended to take an aggressively feminist (although slightly uninformed) standpoint. Now I'm like "Whatever." Life is hard for individuals of both/all genders and some men have a tough time and get a bit twisted. And some men are jerks, some women are jerks, and the most powerful man in the world thinks we should "Grab them by the p*ssy."

Women aspies certainly donhave tough time. I’d like to think I’m kinda friends with few here who struggle and I try to comfort them. Nt women struggle in life too to lesser extent then aspies. I dont know many nt women. I only know them for what they put in their profiles on social media, dating sites, and forums. I’ve neber attended to attack women. I blame society. I’ll society is super messed up in many ways, my sister was talking about a lady who’s daughter was shot and she didn’t take her to the hospital just bandaged it and when back to work. Like what’s wrong with peopl. And thst kid who raped a dying teen girl instead of helping her. Society is broken. People are too disconnected and care too much about money.

All I’ve done is express my experiences. I’ve never meant to say all women are that way. I know a few personally who aren’t and met others there’s probably billlions in the world who might not be. There’s also billions who are. Especially in the west and seems Chinese are too, people are super obsessed with social status and income plays a big part in social status, since it’s all about having nice things and taking nice trips.

I certainly don’t support trump saying thst. I’d never say that. Lots of men do say similar things though when with just men. Probably another part of society that’s messed up. I don’t disagree with it and I’m not offended if someone points it out cause I don’t say those things with exception to dirty talk with a woman who likes it(but that’s bedroom fantasy between two concerning people who both understand it’s fake)

I dont know how to fix men’s mindset though.i dont fit in with men. I was raised by all women and thus men I’ve been around find me too feminine. And they aren’t wrong. I’m weak, emotional, I prefer talking to solutions, I don’t like to get dirty, I don’t talk about sex with other guys or Brag about conquests(sexual partners to rest of us) I don’t know about and thus don’t talk about nasty sexual activies. Menive been around call me weak, naive, etc. meanwhile I’m bewildered and disgusted by things they say and they do. Unlike a lot of men I’ve neber broken s bone or had a majorly wound.mmy friend broke lots. They jumped off a roof once to a trampoline? Why’s that a fun or good idea?
Something that bothers me to this day is when they killed a protected species thenwood pecker. Why? Cause it was pecking wood to get food. Poor thing :cry:



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07 Mar 2018, 3:20 pm

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Something that bothers me to this day is when they killed a protected species thenwood pecker. Why? Cause it was pecking wood to get food. Poor thing :cry:


^ wood peckers sometimes peck and eat chick brains alive, like zombies. Not always the poor things (yet I am against killing them of course).



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07 Mar 2018, 3:37 pm

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Something that bothers me to this day is when they killed a protected species thenwood pecker. Why? Cause it was pecking wood to get food. Poor thing :cry:


^ wood peckers sometimes peck and eat chick brains alive, like zombies. Not always the poor things (yet I am against killing them of course).

That’s horrible but animals do do things we find horrible. It’s nature. Still I can’t stand people killing animals cause they annoy them. Doubly bad cause they endanger of going extinct. A sign I guess that they were the kind of friends for me. I thought they just at worms and insects.



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07 Mar 2018, 3:46 pm

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Ok then report his post in peace.

Or call the police.


I might report it. I won't do so in peace.


Oh my....

So it's a chronos vs sly ....it's WAR!

:mrgreen: So fun, tell me later who won.


There is no war here. I will not report him this time but it would do him some good to sign off and go get some real life counseling, or at least a therapist he can vent his negative sentiments to and who can provide him a healthy means to dissolve them rather than amplify them, as the internet often does. He does not appear to heed constructive advise here and he will certainly not find a girlfriend while spending his time on this forum.

Therapist were never helpful, they told me I need to find s good job and attempted to spend our sessions looking for good jobs so women would date me. They whole heartedly agreed women wouldn’t want to date me given my job (I had a car still at this time) the one before him just told me to get more sun, the one before him was when I was a kid and for my sexual abuse so I don’t remember thst one. Oh the last one also told me he hoped I wouldn’t come see him anymore as he’s busy and if I didn’t then he’d have more time for other clients. So I stopped going. For the best one slip up and I’d have swat at my door to take my guns. My experience isntherapists don’t care about their clients. He also didn’t like that as a ssdi person he got paid less for my visits then other clients who pay for themselves.

I’ve taken others advice. I adopted my profile and pictures as people suggested, I’ve looked st meetup site as people suggested.

What way can I express the thousands of women in my area who won’t date w guy who doesn’t have his life together thst won’t offend you? Do you not see the women here who say similarly? I’m asking honestly as it seems to me like yiu don’t think they exist. I’m asking cause hopefully it’s a misunderstanding. I just want to be able to express my experiences with having them invalidated and being told I’m making it all up. No one should have their experiences invalidated



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07 Mar 2018, 4:04 pm

sly279 wrote:
Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Ok then report his post in peace.

Or call the police.


I might report it. I won't do so in peace.


Oh my....

So it's a chronos vs sly ....it's WAR!

:mrgreen: So fun, tell me later who won.


There is no war here. I will not report him this time but it would do him some good to sign off and go get some real life counseling, or at least a therapist he can vent his negative sentiments to and who can provide him a healthy means to dissolve them rather than amplify them, as the internet often does. He does not appear to heed constructive advise here and he will certainly not find a girlfriend while spending his time on this forum.

Therapist were never helpful, they told me I need to find s good job and attempted to spend our sessions looking for good jobs so women would date me. They whole heartedly agreed women wouldn’t want to date me given my job (I had a car still at this time) the one before him just told me to get more sun, the one before him was when I was a kid and for my sexual abuse so I don’t remember thst one. Oh the last one also told me he hoped I wouldn’t come see him anymore as he’s busy and if I didn’t then he’d have more time for other clients. So I stopped going. For the best one slip up and I’d have swat at my door to take my guns. My experience isntherapists don’t care about their clients. He also didn’t like that as a ssdi person he got paid less for my visits then other clients who pay for themselves.

I’ve taken others advice. I adopted my profile and pictures as people suggested, I’ve looked st meetup site as people suggested.

What way can I express the thousands of women in my area who won’t date w guy who doesn’t have his life together thst won’t offend you? Do you not see the women here who say similarly? I’m asking honestly as it seems to me like yiu don’t think they exist. I’m asking cause hopefully it’s a misunderstanding. I just want to be able to express my experiences with having them invalidated and being told I’m making it all up. No one should have their experiences invalidated

This sounds like my CBT with the councilor who laughed and said no, when I asked if there was any chance I might be Asperger, and kept saying I was very difficult and then suggested I might be happier doing the therapy on my own. Not only do you not get help but other people judge you as not trying because they don't believe it's ever the councilor (therapist) who's wrong.

I think most women are aiming (and expecting to get) a man who has his life together AND has morals. Some women will compromise on one, other women will compromise on the other, but most women are aiming for both.



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07 Mar 2018, 4:15 pm

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I just don't believe most women are stupid enough to go out with a man who lacks morals.


Not intentionally, but there's no shortage of dirtbags who can con women into dating them. I have no idea how they do it, but they manage. It goes the other way too; plenty of women with atrociously nasty personalities have zero difficulties getting dates.

This is true, particularly with compulsive liars of both sexes, they are never single. Both men and women almost always say they want someone honest. I am beginning to think this is the biggest lie of all.



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07 Mar 2018, 5:22 pm

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Women aspies certainly donhave tough time.


I do. :roll:


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07 Mar 2018, 5:57 pm

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Andrewdarr wrote:
I don't really mind mild misogyny anymore... this Sly guy is just a bit mixed up. Back in the day, I tended to take an aggressively feminist (although slightly uninformed) standpoint. Now I'm like "Whatever." Life is hard for individuals of both/all genders and some men have a tough time and get a bit twisted. And some men are jerks, some women are jerks, and the most powerful man in the world thinks we should "Grab them by the p*ssy."

Women aspies certainly donhave tough time. I’d like to think I’m kinda friends with few here who struggle and I try to comfort them. Nt women struggle in life too to lesser extent then aspies. I dont know many nt women. I only know them for what they put in their profiles on social media, dating sites, and forums. I’ve neber attended to attack women. I blame society. I’ll society is super messed up in many ways, my sister was talking about a lady who’s daughter was shot and she didn’t take her to the hospital just bandaged it and when back to work. Like what’s wrong with peopl. And thst kid who raped a dying teen girl instead of helping her. Society is broken. People are too disconnected and care too much about money.

All I’ve done is express my experiences. I’ve never meant to say all women are that way. I know a few personally who aren’t and met others there’s probably billlions in the world who might not be. There’s also billions who are. Especially in the west and seems Chinese are too, people are super obsessed with social status and income plays a big part in social status, since it’s all about having nice things and taking nice trips.

I certainly don’t support trump saying thst. I’d never say that. Lots of men do say similar things though when with just men. Probably another part of society that’s messed up. I don’t disagree with it and I’m not offended if someone points it out cause I don’t say those things with exception to dirty talk with a woman who likes it(but that’s bedroom fantasy between two concerning people who both understand it’s fake)

I dont know how to fix men’s mindset though.i dont fit in with men. I was raised by all women and thus men I’ve been around find me too feminine. And they aren’t wrong. I’m weak, emotional, I prefer talking to solutions, I don’t like to get dirty, I don’t talk about sex with other guys or Brag about conquests(sexual partners to rest of us) I don’t know about and thus don’t talk about nasty sexual activies. Menive been around call me weak, naive, etc. meanwhile I’m bewildered and disgusted by things they say and they do. Unlike a lot of men I’ve neber broken s bone or had a majorly wound.mmy friend broke lots. They jumped off a roof once to a trampoline? Why’s that a fun or good idea?
Something that bothers me to this day is when they killed a protected species thenwood pecker. Why? Cause it was pecking wood to get food. Poor thing :cry:


You seem like a nice enough person, but I think you need to recognize that life is hard for all women, in many ways that a lot of men don't even notice. That's why it's important to be tactful and respectful when females are involved. We still live in a very sexist society and saying bad things about "most women" is not very helpful and does tend to cause more problems than it solves.



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08 Mar 2018, 7:20 am

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You seem like a nice enough person, but I think you need to recognize that life is hard for all women, in many ways that a lot of men don't even notice. That's why it's important to be tactful and respectful when females are involved. We still live in a very sexist society and saying bad things about "most women" is not very helpful and does tend to cause more problems than it solves.
It's easy to avoid sexism. Just remove references to a particular gender. You are much less likely to be banned for misanthropy.



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I disagree with marriage being outdated, children raised within a marriage statistically are better off. I think people conceptualise marriage as being about a couples love for each other when historically and ideally it should represent their devolution to their new family unit.

This is very true. I was raised by a single parent and it caused problems for me growing up.

Marriage is good for families but I would never tell childless couples not to marry. Marriage can be beneficial even if they're not planning on kids.


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08 Mar 2018, 6:21 pm

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life is hard for all women, in many ways that a lot of men don't even notice. That's why it's important to be tactful and respectful when females are involved. We still live in a very sexist society and saying bad things about "most women" is not very helpful and does tend to cause more problems than it solves.

I don't doubt that. Could the reverse be true?


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life is hard for all women, in many ways that a lot of men don't even notice. That's why it's important to be tactful and respectful when females are involved. We still live in a very sexist society and saying bad things about "most women" is not very helpful and does tend to cause more problems than it solves.

I don't doubt that. Could the reverse be true?


Yes.

More often than not, men's issues are swept under the rug.


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Andrewdarr wrote:
life is hard for all women, in many ways that a lot of men don't even notice. That's why it's important to be tactful and respectful when females are involved. We still live in a very sexist society and saying bad things about "most women" is not very helpful and does tend to cause more problems than it solves.

I don't doubt that. Could the reverse be true?


Yes.

More often than not, men's issues are swept under the rug.

It seems like both sexes are blind to problems they haven't experienced personally.


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08 Mar 2018, 10:38 pm

I disagree with the premise of this thread. Why? Because having someone who's morally worse than us and still is in a relationship changes nothing and entitles us to nothing. I strive to be the best man I can be, f$#^ the rest.


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I disagree with the premise of this thread. Why? Because having someone who's morally worse than us and still is in a relationship changes nothing and entitles us to nothing. I strive to be the best man I can be, f$#^ the rest.

None of us are saying we're entitled to a relationship. This thread was started as a rebuttal to "no wonder you don't have a gf" , which is probably something that was said to the OP.

Of course insults such as "no wonder you don't have a gf" should not be taken seriously. They are merely childish attempts to insult and offend, rather than actual advice.


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I disagree with the premise of this thread. Why? Because having someone who's morally worse than us and still is in a relationship changes nothing and entitles us to nothing. I strive to be the best man I can be, f$#^ the rest.

None of us are saying we're entitled to a relationship. This thread was started as a rebuttal to "no wonder you don't have a gf" , which is probably something that was said to the OP.

Of course insults such as "no wonder you don't have a gf" should not be taken seriously. They are merely childish attempts to insult and offend, rather than actual advice.

I take issue with OP's stance on justifying his jerkish behavior. I haven't read through the whole thread - sorry - but I sense an entitled tone from the getgo. I understand the frustration of dating with aspergers, but that's no excuse to be a jerk. If the whole thread's a joke, then have fun. ya'll.


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