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28 Mar 2018, 1:43 am

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Do you think your wife would abandon you if you lose your job or become incapable to work?(ie. accident)

No, I will not answer and I will let you decide instead.

We had a discussion about her sister's situation. Her sister is educated and she could find a decent job, but she rather stays at home with children. Her husband hasn't finished high school, works 60 hours a week and makes slightly more than minimum wage. I said that there's a very clear solution to their problem. Husband should stay at home and her sister should work. It would be better for everyone. My wife said that she doesn't agree with me and that she would not be comfortable being the sole breadwinner in a family (even if it made practical sense).



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28 Mar 2018, 1:51 am

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sly, you don't think you have any positive point about yourself? not points that qualify for a relationship – life is bigger than that. you seem to focus only in things that are deemed negative by society and are being dragged in some form of anger out of it, it won't help you.


Non that make up for being poor and low status. Everything good about me women seem expect from all men so why would they settle?
I use to think they were positive but women just told me so what all men should be that way.

So being playful, funny, loyal, compassionate, romantic and caring doesn’t mean anything since I’m poor and ugly. They epexct to be those things.

Life is not bigger then that life is all about relationships. Humans are social creatures. Everything we all is about relationships in some form or another. Very few people are made to be loners. I’m certainly not.

Most people aim to find the best partner they can get. Most women seem to be attracted to men who are confident, ambitious, driven, successful and physically attractive. Loyalty, compassion and romance might make them want to stay with you, but only if they're attracted to you for other reasons in the first place. If you lack initially attractive qualities, you're basically lowering your fishing rod into the water without any bait and expecting to catch something. The only women who will overlook the fact that you're low status, poor and unattractive are women who can't attract guys who are high-mid status, well off or reasonably well off and/or physically attractive or average. If a woman can get with people she perceives to be closer to what she wants in a partner, that's what she's going to do, just as if you had your choice of women, youd choose the one who appeals most to your personal taste.

If you're unwilling to try and meet the standards of women, don't be surprised if women don't come your way. you're not going to change their standards just as the fat acceptance movement isn't going to make guys perceive fat women as more attractive than average or slim women.



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28 Mar 2018, 2:25 am

I should start a Short Men acceptance movement, in no time countless of supermodels would accept me and fall on my lap. /sarcasm.



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28 Mar 2018, 2:38 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I should start a Short Men acceptance movement, in no time countless of supermodels would accept me and fall on my lap. /sarcasm.

#ShortAcceptanceMovement
#HottieAtAnySize



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28 Mar 2018, 3:11 am

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sly, you don't think you have any positive point about yourself? not points that qualify for a relationship – life is bigger than that. you seem to focus only in things that are deemed negative by society and are being dragged in some form of anger out of it, it won't help you.


Non that make up for being poor and low status. Everything good about me women seem expect from all men so why would they settle?
I use to think they were positive but women just told me so what all men should be that way.

So being playful, funny, loyal, compassionate, romantic and caring doesn’t mean anything since I’m poor and ugly. They epexct to be those things.

Life is not bigger then that life is all about relationships. Humans are social creatures. Everything we all is about relationships in some form or another. Very few people are made to be loners. I’m certainly not.

Most people aim to find the best partner they can get. Most women seem to be attracted to men who are confident, ambitious, driven, successful and physically attractive. Loyalty, compassion and romance might make them want to stay with you, but only if they're attracted to you for other reasons in the first place. If you lack initially attractive qualities, you're basically lowering your fishing rod into the water without any bait and expecting to catch something. The only women who will overlook the fact that you're low status, poor and unattractive are women who can't attract guys who are high-mid status, well off or reasonably well off and/or physically attractive or average. If a woman can get with people she perceives to be closer to what she wants in a partner, that's what she's going to do, just as if you had your choice of women, youd choose the one who appeals most to your personal taste.

If you're unwilling to try and meet the standards of women, don't be surprised if women don't come your way. you're not going to change their standards just as the fat acceptance movement isn't going to make guys perceive fat women as more attractive than average or slim women.


No I’d choose the one I get along with better over a hot woman any day. I’m not superficial.
Personality trumps looks or money status anyway.

I’m unable not unwilling. Not all men can be ceos or middle class even.
But the fat acceptance movement has changed how guys preceive fat women. Before it men wouldn’t date fat women and mad fun of them, they weren’t seen as anymore dateable then poor men, now they are seen as datable. It succeed. It’s now viewed as ok to be a fat woman.

If you were trying to make me feel better and not want to die you failed horrible and ruined my night.



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28 Mar 2018, 3:37 am

I mean, obviously I look more like the pictures on my tinder in real life than the sh***y photos I purposely tried to look bad in. I look nothing like those photos. I didn't photoshop the photos on my tinder because they were just taken well to begin with.

And I bet you probably look way better in real life than the pictures you've taken since they were not done by a photographer.

As far as photoshopping is concerned, your other photos don't show acne, so clearly it's not usually visible like that, so either photoshop that photo or take a new one where it's not visible. I mean, you really should take photos with better lighting. I purposely used bad lighting on those photos I took of myself to show you how in a photograph, lighting will make you look like what you're not because the camera doesn't compensate for lighting, whereas a human looking at you will have a brain that automatically compensates for the lighting and evens out the face.

So in reality, you're trying to actually take photos that make you look closer to what you look like in real life. I mean, the camera should be placed at eye level. In your photos and in the examples of bad photos I took, the camera is below the face so it distorts the face and makes it look fat when it is not.


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28 Mar 2018, 3:38 am

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I should start a Short Men acceptance movement, in no time countless of supermodels would accept me and fall on my lap. /sarcasm.

#ShortAcceptanceMovement
#HottieAtAnySize



https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comme ... h=77e16c33

lol at some of the women's reactions.

This part says it all:

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There isn't any hate group per se, but short men are subtlety discriminated in society. Would you call a women who complained about not making the same amount of money as their male peers or the lack of female CEOs bitter? Would you tell her to lose the chip on her shoulder and to accept her shortcomings? I say this because shorter men make less money than their taller peers and the majority of CEOs are 6 foot or taller

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Great post. An interesting aspect to add is that when it comes to problems, men are often expected to "take it like a man" or "deal with your problems like a man". This usually means showing little to no emotion and not talking about your problems. It's an extremely sexist reaction and it happens all the time with male problems, and I think it's the biggest hurdle for short men because as soon as they bring it up they just get told to pipe down and 'take it like a man, as you can see even in a lot of the posts in this very thread


But none of this would change any of the hypocrisy in the world.



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28 Mar 2018, 3:40 am

By the way, women are attracted to ambition. So you could totally work retail if you have plans to move up in life. So even if those plans don't work out, the fact that you're trying to get better is what is actually attractive. There are plenty of guys in sh***y jobs who are dating beautiful successful women.


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28 Mar 2018, 3:43 am

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I mean, obviously I look more like the pictures on my tinder in real life than the sh***y photos I purposely tried to look bad in. I look nothing like those photos. I didn't photoshop the photos on my tinder because they were just taken well to begin with.

And I bet you probably look way better in real life than the pictures you've taken since they were not done by a photographer.

As far as photoshopping is concerned, your other photos don't show acne, so clearly it's not usually visible like that, so either photoshop that photo or take a new one where it's not visible. I mean, you really should take photos with better lighting. I purposely used bad lighting on those photos I took of myself to show you how in a photograph, lighting will make you look like what you're not because the camera doesn't compensate for lighting, whereas a human looking at you will have a brain that automatically compensates for the lighting and evens out the face.

So in reality, you're trying to actually take photos that make you look closer to what you look like in real life. I mean, the camera should be placed at eye level. In your photos and in the examples of bad photos I took, the camera is below the face so it distorts the face and makes it look fat when it is not.



I got better results when I posted photos without glasses and a beach pic, but a LOT of girls who saw my display photo on whatsapp after getting their #s (in which I am wearing glasses) they DIDN'T believe I am the same guy on tinder- I suddenly look like a "nerd" in that other photo (they literally said it).

I had to send them a short live video of me putting on and off my glasses to make them believe, hey I am f*****g the same.

I thought Superman's way of disguise as Clark was stupid, it turned out it isn't. :|



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28 Mar 2018, 4:00 am

Sly, everyone is in agreement that if you get better photos (like those taken by a pro with an SLR) you'll have significantly better results. You can complain about your specific situation or point the finger at something. I mean, I live in Beverly Hills. I drive a Range Rover. But there's always going to be a guy driving something better like a Ferrari. Yet that guy is not getting all the girls clearly. There's always going to be a better looking guy out there. But I still manage to get girls who you would call "10s" to go on dates with me.

You'd be surprised. Some of the rich successful guys don't even know how to get girls. I was hanging out with some saudi princes and we arrived to the club in Lambos and Ferraris. The minute I got out of the Lamborghini, girls came up to me and asked how I got to be successful. But these filthy rich guys didn't even know how to get girls to stay talking to them and had to tip the bouncer 100s to get them to bring girls over (which just involved them saying "hey do you want free alcohol, these guys have bottle service") rofl. They were clueless.

And I bet you there's a guy working retail without a car who has no problems getting extremely attractive girls to date him.


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28 Mar 2018, 5:36 am

^^ So you are 'cool' like those guys in that classic Beverly Hills drama series?

I imagine the boys in Beverly Hills sound equivalent to the boys in S.Korea's. Gangnam. So I am dedicating this video post to you:



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28 Mar 2018, 5:50 am

and btw, Saudi princes aren't rich because they're successful.



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28 Mar 2018, 6:08 am

How not? Being a successful tyrant is still a way of being successful.


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28 Mar 2018, 6:33 am

sly279 wrote:
The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
sly279 wrote:
ltcvnzl wrote:
sly, you don't think you have any positive point about yourself? not points that qualify for a relationship – life is bigger than that. you seem to focus only in things that are deemed negative by society and are being dragged in some form of anger out of it, it won't help you.


Non that make up for being poor and low status. Everything good about me women seem expect from all men so why would they settle?
I use to think they were positive but women just told me so what all men should be that way.

So being playful, funny, loyal, compassionate, romantic and caring doesn’t mean anything since I’m poor and ugly. They epexct to be those things.

Life is not bigger then that life is all about relationships. Humans are social creatures. Everything we all is about relationships in some form or another. Very few people are made to be loners. I’m certainly not.

Most people aim to find the best partner they can get. Most women seem to be attracted to men who are confident, ambitious, driven, successful and physically attractive. Loyalty, compassion and romance might make them want to stay with you, but only if they're attracted to you for other reasons in the first place. If you lack initially attractive qualities, you're basically lowering your fishing rod into the water without any bait and expecting to catch something. The only women who will overlook the fact that you're low status, poor and unattractive are women who can't attract guys who are high-mid status, well off or reasonably well off and/or physically attractive or average. If a woman can get with people she perceives to be closer to what she wants in a partner, that's what she's going to do, just as if you had your choice of women, youd choose the one who appeals most to your personal taste.

If you're unwilling to try and meet the standards of women, don't be surprised if women don't come your way. you're not going to change their standards just as the fat acceptance movement isn't going to make guys perceive fat women as more attractive than average or slim women.


No I’d choose the one I get along with better over a hot woman any day. I’m not superficial.
Personality trumps looks or money status anyway.

I’m unable not unwilling. Not all men can be ceos or middle class even.
But the fat acceptance movement has changed how guys preceive fat women. Before it men wouldn’t date fat women and mad fun of them, they weren’t seen as anymore dateable then poor men, now they are seen as datable. It succeed. It’s now viewed as ok to be a fat woman.

If you were trying to make me feel better and not want to die you failed horrible and ruined my night.

When I said appeals to your personal taste I didn't just mean looks. And I'm not convinced that the fat acceptance movement is making guys more inclined to date fat women.



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28 Mar 2018, 6:18 pm

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By the way, women are attracted to ambition. So you could totally work retail if you have plans to move up in life. So even if those plans don't work out, the fact that you're trying to get better is what is actually attractive. There are plenty of guys in sh***y jobs who are dating beautiful successful women.

My level of superhero prevents me from being ambitious. I’ve tried and failed multiple times. I went to college and got a degree(didn’t work out), I’m not allowed to join the military, I can’t work full time. Part time work exhausts me. So what good paying job do you know if that’s 20 hours or less a week?
So I work retail which I barely got and due to not being able to hand full time worn as well as my anxiety there’s no moving up.
I work 15 hours or less a week.
Most women don’t see a guy working retail(unless he’s management) at 30 as ambitious. An ambitious man would moved on to better things by 30.

Yeah i dont know about that. I’ve never meet any. A few retail people somehow managed to get ugly women who work retail that’s about it. All the women at my store are managers, college students or wife’s of men who work good jobs.



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28 Mar 2018, 6:23 pm

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
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The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
sly279 wrote:
ltcvnzl wrote:
sly, you don't think you have any positive point about yourself? not points that qualify for a relationship – life is bigger than that. you seem to focus only in things that are deemed negative by society and are being dragged in some form of anger out of it, it won't help you.


Non that make up for being poor and low status. Everything good about me women seem expect from all men so why would they settle?
I use to think they were positive but women just told me so what all men should be that way.

So being playful, funny, loyal, compassionate, romantic and caring doesn’t mean anything since I’m poor and ugly. They epexct to be those things.

Life is not bigger then that life is all about relationships. Humans are social creatures. Everything we all is about relationships in some form or another. Very few people are made to be loners. I’m certainly not.

Most people aim to find the best partner they can get. Most women seem to be attracted to men who are confident, ambitious, driven, successful and physically attractive. Loyalty, compassion and romance might make them want to stay with you, but only if they're attracted to you for other reasons in the first place. If you lack initially attractive qualities, you're basically lowering your fishing rod into the water without any bait and expecting to catch something. The only women who will overlook the fact that you're low status, poor and unattractive are women who can't attract guys who are high-mid status, well off or reasonably well off and/or physically attractive or average. If a woman can get with people she perceives to be closer to what she wants in a partner, that's what she's going to do, just as if you had your choice of women, youd choose the one who appeals most to your personal taste.

If you're unwilling to try and meet the standards of women, don't be surprised if women don't come your way. you're not going to change their standards just as the fat acceptance movement isn't going to make guys perceive fat women as more attractive than average or slim women.


No I’d choose the one I get along with better over a hot woman any day. I’m not superficial.
Personality trumps looks or money status anyway.

I’m unable not unwilling. Not all men can be ceos or middle class even.
But the fat acceptance movement has changed how guys preceive fat women. Before it men wouldn’t date fat women and mad fun of them, they weren’t seen as anymore dateable then poor men, now they are seen as datable. It succeed. It’s now viewed as ok to be a fat woman.

If you were trying to make me feel better and not want to die you failed horrible and ruined my night.

When I said appeals to your personal taste I didn't just mean looks. And I'm not convinced that the fat acceptance movement is making guys more inclined to date fat women.


Some of these women only have me to choose from so it’s not then choosing someone better it’s them chooseinf to be alone rather then even talk to me to see if we’d get along.

50% of women are obese or more I don’t remeber. Americans are fat. I see lots of obese women with thin athletic guys. So atleast where I live it’s succeeded.