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16 May 2018, 4:21 pm

Luhluhluh wrote:
If you can't even make friends, it's not your looks that is the problem.


its both, my looks is really bad, you would laugh if you saw me or puke lol. why would anyone want to hang out with me even if i had great social skills ? my looks would scare them off.



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16 May 2018, 4:25 pm

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One thing many ugly people have is friends, because when you're ugly you figure out early that if you want people to hang around you will have to have something to offer them and since you don't have looks that other something is going to have to come from your personality. You have to figure out what else you have to offer: the ability to make people laugh, a capacity for kindness, good listening skills, a sense of adventure and enthusiasm for life, varied interests, animated and informed conversation, whatever your particular qualities may be. You take those other capacities you have and you learn to accentuate them and demonstrate them to others so they can see your value and will seek to be around you because of them. That's how the social contract works. Like it or lump it.


i am not ugly, i am VERY ugly. ugly people find me ugly.

i dont have a personality.



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16 May 2018, 4:26 pm

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I don't mind if a guy has struggles. Being around someone who can empathize with things like feeling insecure about your body or having a hard time making friends is nice, because I feel I have to act less "normal" myself and maybe we can help each other.

What I don't like is the victim mentality, i.e. "it sucks and I can't do anything about it", when in fact they can. Or who are negative all the time. I'd feel like I'd be responsible for too much when it's on them to work on weight, health, hobbies, happiness, etc.


its not a victim mentality, its the truth. how can you say that i can? you dont know my flaws. i tried everything to fix them but it did not work.



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16 May 2018, 4:29 pm

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Fat women get acceptance more then fat men??? I'd like for you to explain to me what part of the world that exists in because as far as I can see women are constantly hassled about whether or not they're a size 2 or not ... Its so bad nowadays that a woman can't even be pregnant without getting body shamed o_o I mean I'll be fair, guys get shamed too every now and then and that's why some guys have lower self esteem because of it but not nearly to the extent that women get it.


so why is more men then women so social isoleted? why do more men take suicide? why do more men cry on internet forums? guys have it harder because we are supposed to be tough and perfect. when a guy moans about this he gets bullied. there is no help for guys who have bad lifes.



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16 May 2018, 4:30 pm

What did you try to fix them? What haven't you tried? We need the whole story here if you want help from this point.



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16 May 2018, 4:36 pm

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I'm picturing the OP going through life radiating self-loathing and gloom, focusing entirely on how he feels ugly and hopeless and boring...and talking to women saying things like, "You're fat and ugly enough so that I think nobody else should want you, WHY WON'T YOU DATE ME?!"

If your approach to a woman, any woman, is based on "I think you're disgusting enough that even a loser like me should have a shot," any woman who's ever even heard of the concept of self-worth will reject you. Not because you're ugly, not because you're boring, not because you're a virgin - because you're insulting her. You hate yourself, and your responses in this thread indicate that you're going to continue hating yourself. You've decided you're ugly. You've decided you're boring and it'll never change. You've apparently convinced yourself women have magical 'virgin detector' capabilities that lead us to reject you on sight. You believe you have nothing to offer, then say it's not fair that women don't want you.

An ugly man who talks to a woman because he thinks she's interesting and he'd like to get to know her better? He has a chance. His identical twin who talks to a woman because he thinks she's ugly, fat, and poor enough that she can't do any better? Nope. So long as you persist in blaming all women everywhere for your plight, you will continue to be alone.


i am ugly and boring becauase i am . people tell me that my whole life . people say to me that i am one of the most ugly guys they ever seen, my family says it, random people says it, everyone . its a objective fact that i am ugly . i have 100+ flaws. i need to fix the flaws to look decent but so far no sucess.

i dont hate myself but i do wish i did not have those flaws.

yes woman reject my on sight because they can see that i am very ugly, they assume right away that i have no friends and lives on wellfare.

women dont want me because they think that i am a ugly loser, i think its not fair to judge me just because i am ugly and weird , i dont judge women who are ugly and weird , i would accept them as they are and i think they are fine .

blaming woman? here is the deal....I AM THE PROBLEM, i already said this many times, BUT, its not just me, its also the fact that women dont want a guy like me, so its me, but also women. ask yourself why i am virign and have no friends if women accepts a very ugly man with who is boring? right, you are telling me i need to change, i need to be someone i am not, i need a magical pill,,,,wtf.



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16 May 2018, 4:39 pm

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What did you try to fix them? What haven't you tried? We need the whole story here if you want help from this point.


i already listed my flaws in another thread.



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16 May 2018, 4:43 pm

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how come guys even normal guys accept all kind of women but women only accept guys who are attractive, have big social status and no mental illness?...

why do a fat woman with no friends get accepted but not a fat man with no friends?


How much time exactly have you spent as an unattractive woman to know this for a fact?

There are undesireables amongst both sexes, believe it or not. This is not a contest of who has it worse. So stop it right there.


i wont stop beccause its the truth and you dont like the truth.

ugly woman have boyfriends, look with your eyes when in town. but ugly guys are always alone.

why do ugly woman dont want ugly guys?


OK, this is a very skewed view of the world. Have you ever considered that maybe it is your idea of what is and isn't attractive that is messed up? Simple reality is that good looking people tend to be with good looking people, 7s with 7s and so forth. There is no huge skew where ugly women are getting good looking guys and, in fact, a lot of women would say the opposite is true, that a disproportionate number of unattractive men end up with more attractive wives.

So my suggestion is simple: stop obsessing over other people's lives and jumping to conclusions based on what you think you see, particularly since it strikes me as entirely inaccurate. It is your negative view of the women and the world that will keep you out of a relationship more than what you look like. Seriously, grasp this concept: having negative perceptions of people is one the world's biggest turn offs. Learn to see and appreciate more of the different kinds of attractive traits that exist in the world, instead of holding women against an unrealistic standard. People come in all shapes and sizes, and sometimes a brilliant smile, twinkling eyes, or a gentle spirit can transform ordinary into extraordinary.


i see what my eyes see. when i look at couples in town i see ugly/very ugly women with decent guys but i never see very ugly guys with gf. its a fact. i am not crazy, my user name is white_as_snow, the sun is hot and i am speaking english right now too you...see i do know whats going on.... 8)

my negative view on woman? i am just saying that women dont want a guy like me , i am realistic, i am bashing my self not women, i am so ugly that nobody wants me. and its okay, but sometimes it makes me sad, atm i am sad.

i am so ugly that i cant even get a friend, you dont seem to get it, its not about a smile, its about how i look. i have 100 flaws



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16 May 2018, 5:04 pm

white_as_snow wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
white_as_snow wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
white_as_snow wrote:

how come guys even normal guys accept all kind of women but women only accept guys who are attractive, have big social status and no mental illness?...

why do a fat woman with no friends get accepted but not a fat man with no friends?


How much time exactly have you spent as an unattractive woman to know this for a fact?

There are undesireables amongst both sexes, believe it or not. This is not a contest of who has it worse. So stop it right there.


i wont stop beccause its the truth and you dont like the truth.

ugly woman have boyfriends, look with your eyes when in town. but ugly guys are always alone.

why do ugly woman dont want ugly guys?


OK, this is a very skewed view of the world. Have you ever considered that maybe it is your idea of what is and isn't attractive that is messed up? Simple reality is that good looking people tend to be with good looking people, 7s with 7s and so forth. There is no huge skew where ugly women are getting good looking guys and, in fact, a lot of women would say the opposite is true, that a disproportionate number of unattractive men end up with more attractive wives.

So my suggestion is simple: stop obsessing over other people's lives and jumping to conclusions based on what you think you see, particularly since it strikes me as entirely inaccurate. It is your negative view of the women and the world that will keep you out of a relationship more than what you look like. Seriously, grasp this concept: having negative perceptions of people is one the world's biggest turn offs. Learn to see and appreciate more of the different kinds of attractive traits that exist in the world, instead of holding women against an unrealistic standard. People come in all shapes and sizes, and sometimes a brilliant smile, twinkling eyes, or a gentle spirit can transform ordinary into extraordinary.


i see what my eyes see. when i look at couples in town i see ugly/very ugly women with decent guys but i never see very ugly guys with gf. its a fact. i am not crazy, my user name is white_as_snow, the sun is hot and i am speaking english right now too you...see i do know whats going on.... 8)

my negative view on woman? i am just saying that women dont want a guy like me , i am realistic, i am bashing my self not women, i am so ugly that nobody wants me. and its okay, but sometimes it makes me sad, atm i am sad.

i am so ugly that i cant even get a friend, you dont seem to get it, its not about a smile, its about how i look. i have 100 flaws


You are saying that when you look around town you see a lot of ugly women with boyfriends. I highly doubt they are actually ugly; you just seem to choose to believe they are. That is a negative view of women.

And there is not much about yourself that cannot be changed if you are determined enough. You have to have the will and the belief. Since I haven't seen you, I can't say this with certainty, but I doubt it is your looks that keep you from having friends. Looks are an easy scapegoat for you, but real life is much more complicated than that. If you want change, find someone who can help you.


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16 May 2018, 6:03 pm

There's probably loads of girls who can't get boyfriends due to their looks or other reasons.

Maybe the OP only asked out really attractive women.

I'm not sure which would be worse, being unattractive and unable to get a boyfriend or being extremely attractive and getting hit on by guys every 5 minutes.


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16 May 2018, 7:03 pm

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There's probably loads of girls who can't get boyfriends due to their looks or other reasons.

Maybe the OP only asked out really attractive women.

I'm not sure which would be worse, being unattractive and unable to get a boyfriend or being extremely attractive and getting hit on by guys every 5 minutes.


One of my college friends used to model. It does have its own set of problems. Men weren't real with her; they treated her like an object, not the extremely intelligent woman she actually was. And they always assumed her disinterest was her thinking she was better than them, not the simple reality that, um, she had a life she was trying to lead and flirting while trying to catch a plane wasn't on the list. To mitigate the effect, she usually went with glasses, in run down clothes, and without make up. But she had that option; the opposite doesn't really work.


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16 May 2018, 7:52 pm

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To mitigate the effect, she usually went with glasses, in run down clothes, and without make up. But she had that option; the opposite doesn't really work.

The opposite might work. Believe me there's clothing to flatter every body type.


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17 May 2018, 6:33 am

If you have abit of money, you could try going the mail-order bride route. I would of done that if I had the money & resources


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If you have abit of money, you could try going the mail-order bride route. I would of done that if I had the money & resources


Just be careful. There's a lot of scams out there looking to separate American men from their money.


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17 May 2018, 1:24 pm

Ever watched the Nicole Kidman movie "Birthday Girl" ?



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18 May 2018, 3:23 pm

DW_a_mom wrote:
white_as_snow wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
white_as_snow wrote:
Luhluhluh wrote:
white_as_snow wrote:

how come guys even normal guys accept all kind of women but women only accept guys who are attractive, have big social status and no mental illness?...

why do a fat woman with no friends get accepted but not a fat man with no friends?


How much time exactly have you spent as an unattractive woman to know this for a fact?

There are undesireables amongst both sexes, believe it or not. This is not a contest of who has it worse. So stop it right there.


i wont stop beccause its the truth and you dont like the truth.

ugly woman have boyfriends, look with your eyes when in town. but ugly guys are always alone.

why do ugly woman dont want ugly guys?


OK, this is a very skewed view of the world. Have you ever considered that maybe it is your idea of what is and isn't attractive that is messed up? Simple reality is that good looking people tend to be with good looking people, 7s with 7s and so forth. There is no huge skew where ugly women are getting good looking guys and, in fact, a lot of women would say the opposite is true, that a disproportionate number of unattractive men end up with more attractive wives.

So my suggestion is simple: stop obsessing over other people's lives and jumping to conclusions based on what you think you see, particularly since it strikes me as entirely inaccurate. It is your negative view of the women and the world that will keep you out of a relationship more than what you look like. Seriously, grasp this concept: having negative perceptions of people is one the world's biggest turn offs. Learn to see and appreciate more of the different kinds of attractive traits that exist in the world, instead of holding women against an unrealistic standard. People come in all shapes and sizes, and sometimes a brilliant smile, twinkling eyes, or a gentle spirit can transform ordinary into extraordinary.


i see what my eyes see. when i look at couples in town i see ugly/very ugly women with decent guys but i never see very ugly guys with gf. its a fact. i am not crazy, my user name is white_as_snow, the sun is hot and i am speaking english right now too you...see i do know whats going on.... 8)

my negative view on woman? i am just saying that women dont want a guy like me , i am realistic, i am bashing my self not women, i am so ugly that nobody wants me. and its okay, but sometimes it makes me sad, atm i am sad.

i am so ugly that i cant even get a friend, you dont seem to get it, its not about a smile, its about how i look. i have 100 flaws


You are saying that when you look around town you see a lot of ugly women with boyfriends. I highly doubt they are actually ugly; you just seem to choose to believe they are. That is a negative view of women.

And there is not much about yourself that cannot be changed if you are determined enough. You have to have the will and the belief. Since I haven't seen you, I can't say this with certainty, but I doubt it is your looks that keep you from having friends. Looks are an easy scapegoat for you, but real life is much more complicated than that. If you want change, find someone who can help you.


oh please, why dont you call me out for having negative views on men because i also said there is guys who are ugly. some people are ugly it s a fact, both men and women can be ugly. i am very ugly for exemple.

how can i have belif and will when there is 0 % to fix my flaws? i am just being realistic . you would agree with me if you got to spend 1 hour in my body and mind.

yep its not just my looks, i am also weird and boring, but my looks is a big problem, even if i was cool, smart and funny i would still not get friends because of the way i look, people feel disgusted with the way i look. lol scapegoat, you use personality as scapegoat but looks is not okay to use as a scapegoat? why is that? a person is judged by its looks and personality, stop pretending that looks does not matter because it does, its a fact.

help me, you mean therapists? i have 3. its not helping.