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16 Jun 2018, 11:04 am

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Boo what percentage of women’s profiles you saw mention men needing a good job, car place or hav their life together or have their c**p together etc?



Rare... but I am sure most act on it because it’s the very first questions they ask.

Do they specially ask if you have a good job, or is it more of a conversational question, like what do you do dor a living.



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16 Jun 2018, 12:42 pm

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Average looking guys who seem kind of boring, people on dating sites just ignore because they’re a dime a dozen.

I haven't used Tinder, but I know what you mean. I see so many girls on OKC where I think "Gosh, she's awfully pretty...but her profile sounds incredibly boring." There used to be a lot less "normal" people on there the last time I was single =|

"Beauty without grace is the hook without the bait."

BTW, I hope you are not suggesting that I am an average looking guy who seems boring. If anything, my OKC profile probably makes me sound far too weird =) I am okay with this.

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If all you do is moan about yourself, you’re not really engaging. I try to contribute to the thread and talk to people, not at them about myself.

Yes, but this is difficult when one has Asperger's =)

I do try not to "moan" and complain as much as I used to when I was younger. I notice other people doing it, and I think to myself, "gosh, do I sound like that??"

(Oh look, I'm talking at you about myself! How do I reconfigure??)

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You sound like the sort of person I would like to be friends with.

=) I've thought that for a few years, but you seem a little standoffish at times (if that's the correct word?). No offense intended; maybe "distant" is more appropriate?


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I didn't think OkC was ever designed for the mainstream. It has always attracted outlying groups. First nerds/geeks, then hippies/vegans, more recently it became more mainstream but now it seems to attract the genderfluid and polyamorous. Those are my very generalised observations anyway.

That sounds about right to me. It was awesome back in the day, for someone like me, but now I rarely check it. Other dating websites that I've seen have never really been my crowd.


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"Sapiosexual" is a very stupid, unscientific and pretentious label.

Technically, there is little science behind any of those sorts of labels. AFAIK, science cannot currently explain why some people are homosexual, or transgender (for example)...even sets of identical twins will have differing sexualities.

I can certainly relate to "sapiosexual" though; I find unintelligent women to be a bit of a turnoff, and find intelligent women to be incredibly attractive. I don't use it to label myself though, I just know what I like and what I don't.


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16 Jun 2018, 3:47 pm

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No, never.

I've actually had people tell me that it's really weird that I always type with proper grammar, even in chat rooms. Of course, today, everyone types on phones, where they automatically capitalize and spell-check for you (whether it's the correct word or not).

I never find out why I was ghosted...that's why it's called ghosting ;)

I'm pretty convinced that I'm just cursed, or that I've died without knowing it, and this is Hell. It would make a lot of sense. I am not being ghosted, I am the ghost 8O


You seem cool. I wouldn’t take rejection on dating sites personally. It’s not realistic.


Dating sites seem like the bottom of the barrel anyways. Yeah it’s becoming more “mainstream” but it’s still rare to find a halfway decent human being on those sites.



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16 Jun 2018, 6:32 pm

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Dating sites seem like the bottom of the barrel anyways. Yeah it’s becoming more “mainstream” but it’s still rare to find a halfway decent human being on those sites.

The more "mainstream" it gets, the more "bottom of the barrel" it looks to me! It depends what sort of person you are interested in. Mainstream people are not what I'm into. Socially awkwards nerds are. I've been doing online dating since 1997 and I prefer who the majority of users were earlier on than who they are today. So I wouldn't actually call any type of person "bottom of the barrel", because they could be ideal for some people if not for you.

It used to be easier to meet a certain type of person online. Now most single/poly people who you could meet on the street are also online.



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17 Jun 2018, 2:06 am

AnneOleson wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Boo what percentage of women’s profiles you saw mention men needing a good job, car place or hav their life together or have their c**p together etc?



Rare... but I am sure most act on it because it’s the very first questions they ask.

Do they specially ask if you have a good job, or is it more of a conversational question, like what do you do dor a living.


They try to know it subtly, like they ask first “what do you do for living” which is a casual question that even I ask; but then many try to dig more detailed work information like what’s my exact position, what kind of company, whether i am getting promotions or not...


...it eventually becomes so obvious, especially on a first meet up.


And there were those who literally asked me “what’s your salary?” on a first chat or meetup; not common but it happened to me at least 3 times.



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17 Jun 2018, 4:19 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
AnneOleson wrote:
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Boo what percentage of women’s profiles you saw mention men needing a good job, car place or hav their life together or have their c**p together etc?



Rare... but I am sure most act on it because it’s the very first questions they ask.

Do they specially ask if you have a good job, or is it more of a conversational question, like what do you do dor a living.


They try to know it subtly, like they ask first “what do you do for living” which is a casual question that even I ask; but then many try to dig more detailed work information like what’s my exact position, what kind of company, whether i am getting promotions or not...


...it eventually becomes so obvious, especially on a first meet up.


And there were those who literally asked me “what’s your salary?” on a first chat or meetup; not common but it happened to me at least 3 times.

A former friend of mine used to refer to dates as job interviews.



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17 Jun 2018, 4:55 am

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A former friend of mine used to refer to dates as job interviews.

I've heard that many times. That they are similar, at least. I used to always disagree because I don't try to impress or "win over" my dates, where I would in an interview. (And I don't grill them like the interviewer.)

But these days I don't really try to impress in job interviews either :lol:



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17 Jun 2018, 6:04 am

Peacesells wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
AnneOleson wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Boo what percentage of women’s profiles you saw mention men needing a good job, car place or hav their life together or have their c**p together etc?



Rare... but I am sure most act on it because it’s the very first questions they ask.

Do they specially ask if you have a good job, or is it more of a conversational question, like what do you do dor a living.


They try to know it subtly, like they ask first “what do you do for living” which is a casual question that even I ask; but then many try to dig more detailed work information like what’s my exact position, what kind of company, whether i am getting promotions or not...


...it eventually becomes so obvious, especially on a first meet up.


And there were those who literally asked me “what’s your salary?” on a first chat or meetup; not common but it happened to me at least 3 times.

A former friend of mine used to refer to dates as job interviews.



In dating:

Women = employers

Men = Job seekers

Date = interview


In case of online dating these parallels become even greater , you may add:

Woman's dating profile = Job Vacancy

Man's dating profile = CV

Man's first message = Cover letter.

Men/Women ratio = JobSkeekers/Employers ratio.

Most men's messages get ignored by women = most job seekers' submitted applications get ignored by employers.

Most women's messages get replied by men = most employers' contacts are often....well answered by job seekers.

Women have way more options on dating sites = exactly like how employers have way more options on job boards.



These parallels are so insanely accurate.



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17 Jun 2018, 6:08 am

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A former friend of mine used to refer to dates as job interviews.

I've heard that many times. That they are similar, at least. I used to always disagree because I don't try to impress or "win over" my dates, where I would in an interview. (And I don't grill them like the interviewer.)


Because you are the employer.



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17 Jun 2018, 6:38 am

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A former friend of mine used to refer to dates as job interviews.

I've heard that many times. That they are similar, at least. I used to always disagree because I don't try to impress or "win over" my dates, where I would in an interview. (And I don't grill them like the interviewer.)

Because you are the employer.

When I date women? :? I know I started this thread directed at men dating women, but what you said makes no sense for me because I approach my dates with men and women the same way.

And did you read the bit in brackets? I don't behave like the employer either. I don't want them to try to impress me. I just want to have a good time, get to know each other, see if we seem compatible (which goes both ways, do I suit them / do they suit me, which is how I treat job interviews too these days).



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17 Jun 2018, 9:11 am

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A former friend of mine used to refer to dates as job interviews.

I've heard that many times. That they are similar, at least. I used to always disagree because I don't try to impress or "win over" my dates, where I would in an interview. (And I don't grill them like the interviewer.)

Because you are the employer.

When I date women? :? I know I started this thread directed at men dating women, but what you said makes no sense for me because I approach my dates with men and women the same way.

And did you read the bit in brackets? I don't behave like the employer either. I don't want them to try to impress me. I just want to have a good time, get to know each other, see if we seem compatible (which goes both ways, do I suit them / do they suit me, which is how I treat job interviews too these days).



Usually the one who's way more in demand gets the defacto role of 'employer' - in heterosexual online dating that's usually the woman, unless the man is one of these rare successful six-packed Christian Bale lookalike while the woman is way less in demand than him.
Same rules would apply for homosexual dating.

The 'employer' and 'job seeker' roles aren't intentional, even if you think you're not being one of them, during the course of dating there's always one trying to win/impress the other while the other is trying to evaluate this one. Very rare are the first dates where both parties are equally trying to impress / evaluate each other.

Remember, even in the job interviews , the candidate does evaluate the company but not as equally and strict as the company is evaluating him; if the company doesn't sound like a criminal organization then he would most likely accept a second interview if he gets the chance , because the candidate is way in need to get a job than the company to get a new employee (hint: hence why men are always WAAAAYYYY more likely to want a 2nd date than women).

On the other hand, the company is also trying to give a good image to the candidate (impressing) but not as equally (effort wise) as the candidate is trying to impress the company about himself.

The reverse scenario only happens if the candidate is so unique and there's no one around who has his same skills that the company desperately needs in hurry. Think of the brainiac scientists that the NASA hires from outer seas.



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17 Jun 2018, 9:48 am

I find this whole correlation to job interviews disturbing and depressing to be frankly honest. It’s sad that it is indeed very true...... but I can’t think of anything less sexy and romantic then a job interview. It speaks to a fundamental flaw in our social dating dynamics. Romance is sparked by connection and connection is made when we are vulnerable and open with eachother. Love blooms when one or both people start to feel safe and unconditionally accepted for who they are. How the hell can this type of passion and love blossom in something as cold, calloused, judgemental and selfserving as a job interview? I won’t deny the correlation, but the fact that we can make the correlation is proof that we got some issues in our society. Do you really really think deep and passionate romance can bloom on a foundation where we are assessed and judged to see if we measure up? No freaking way! No wonder why this day and age sucks at romance.



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17 Jun 2018, 9:56 am

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I find this whole correlation to job interviews disturbing and depressing to be frankly honest. It’s sad that it is indeed very true...... but I can’t think of anything less sexy and romantic then a job interview. It speaks to a fundamental flaw in our social dating dynamics. Romance is sparked by connection and connection is made when we are vulnerable and open with eachother. Love blooms when one or both people start to feel safe and unconditionally accepted for who they are. How the hell can this type of passion and love blossom in something as cold, calloused, judgemental and selfserving as a job interview? I won’t deny the correlation, but the fact that we can make the correlation is proof that we got some issues in our society. Do you really really think deep and passionate romance can bloom on a foundation where we are assessed and judged to see if we measure up? No freaking way! No wonder why this day and age sucks at romance.



And oh, I forgot to add the most depressing parallel: parties in both job interviews and dates often adopt a fake ideal persona and hiding their major flaws that may make things terrible later after closing the deal.

How many women were able to guess on first date than their future husband is actually abuser , how many men were able to guess on first date that their future wife is actually a cheater....

how many employees were able to guess on interview that their boss will be a total jerk? How many companies were able to guess on interview that the new employee isn't as good as he/she claimed?



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17 Jun 2018, 10:22 am

^ Dating and romance have always been this way.

Personally, I've always found women to be much more practically-minded than men on the romance front.


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17 Jun 2018, 10:33 am

Has anyone ever thought that possibly the reason someone might ask "What do you do for a living" is because we're trying to find some common ground?

I mean, for example, I have a bachelor's degree and work a professional full time job. How much would I have in common, for example, with someone who dropped out of high school, works part-time at a fast food place, and lives with their parents? Probably not much.

It's not necessarily that I'm "better" than they are, but we are very likely going to have different life experiences and different life goals.

Sure, there are women who are concerned about how much you make, but you're not required to date those women either. You are completely within your right to throw them back and say "no thanks" when they start asking about salary, which, to be honest, I don't blame anyone for doing that because it's not anyone's business.


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Has anyone ever thought that possibly the reason someone might ask "What do you do for a living" is because we're trying to find some common ground?

I mean, for example, I have a bachelor's degree and work a professional full time job. How much would I have in common, for example, with someone who dropped out of high school, works part-time at a fast food place, and lives with their parents? Probably not much.

It's not necessarily that I'm "better" than they are, but we are very likely going to have different life experiences and different life goals.

Sure, there are women who are concerned about how much you make, but you're not required to date those women either. You are completely within your right to throw them back and say "no thanks" when they start asking about salary, which, to be honest, I don't blame anyone for doing that because it's not anyone's business.



Did it ever occur to you that you misread this part:

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which is a casual question that even I ask; but then many try to dig more detailed work information like what’s my exact position, what kind of company, whether i am getting promotions or not...


That's beyond the "What do you do for a living" question.