Whys it have to not be ok to ask if a woman likes you?

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29 Jul 2018, 2:57 am

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if you want ideas on cheap dates. can you cook? maybe you should make something and invite her to a picnic. i bet she will find nice if you can prepare something.

i didn't had much dates, but i enjoyed once a guy took me to the lake so we could try a fishing thing we has working on. it failed :D but it was just nice to be sitting by the lake. we spent no money.

Right now the weather is far too hot for any outside active hence the movies again.
I dont know what I’d cook her and how I’d keep it warm and transport it. I thought about sandwiches, if it was only two could probably move them in my lunch bail.
I was going suggest we go to another park in our cities if I could figure out bus(we both ride bus) but it’s been so warm, she doesn’t want to go out in heat, I’d suffer it for a date but can’t force her.
On the first date we walked in the part by the river. I thought about seeing if she’d want to walk down the river trail close to that park. Not having cars limit us or a hike to the mountain top would been cool. Been there once and it’s beautiful on top.
The parks we can go to is Alton baker, day island, and the river trail park(I’d want to take my gun for that one which I’ve avoided as i dont know if she’s ok with guns or not) its more secluded and thus more dangerous for us.
That's 38 Celsius :o I can't blame her for not wanting to walk in that, I'd be a puddle on the ground.

I don't think not saying much is a sign she doesn't like you, it's more likely she's shy or doesn't know what to say.

If a woman wants free stuff and is prepared to date someone she doesn't find attractive to get it then there are plenty of men out there who will go along with it who are much better off financially than you. She would have picked someone older with a full time job and a car to take her places. A woman doesn't have to be thin, pretty, or even that young to get free stuff if that's all she's after. If she's not pushing you to buy her stuff I don't think you need worry about this.

I think you're sensible to not tell her about the guns yet. She might like them but it's probably a risk.



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29 Jul 2018, 5:32 pm

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If you don't have the courage to ask her if she likes you, then just ask her out on a date. If she says 'yes', then she likes you; and if she says 'no' then she doesn't. It's as simple as that. Note that asking her why she says 'no' or asking her out more than once may get you labelled as a creep and a loser.
We’ve been on 2 dates so far with maybe 3rd this coming week.
Well, then there you go! She's going out with you, so she likes you.
I dont know I feel if she liked me she’d talk more to me. That with some women using guys for acrivies makes me unsure. The lady at work I talked about plus I had one lady try to use me to get free meals years ago. That lady didn’t talk much besides making hints to buy her food.
People like you only for what you can provide. So what? That's humanity for you!

The key is to find someone who will provide what you want in exchange for what they want. She wants a free meal? Give her one. ONE. After that, let her know that you're interested in something of equal value to a meal. Let he figure out what it might be. If she offers something that you like, then you're all set -- she gets fed, and you get ________. If she offers you something you don't like, then shrug it off and don't feed her until she comes around.

And if she tells you off for being so mean, then you're out the cost of one meal -- no big loss. Go find someone else. There are lots of hungry women out there.



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30 Jul 2018, 1:49 am

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And if she tells you off for being so mean, then you're out the cost of one meal -- no big loss. Go find someone else. There are lots of hungry women out there.
No there aren't :?



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30 Jul 2018, 2:51 am

I've just googled Alton Baker park. How about the Science Center? It's $5 plus Guests are also welcome to bring their own food and drinks to enjoy in our Community Room, which is typically open to all guests except when rented or booked for special meetings and events. You can tell her, you buy the tickets, she brings the food.

Or just get your gun, walk out somewhere where you can have a shooting practice with her. It's manly, you can show some "machismo" :)

Or the Museum of Natural and Cultural History? $5 too. Btw kinda shame. In the UK museums are free. Makes it easier.



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30 Jul 2018, 5:48 pm

She suggest we go to a steak place together sometime, does that mean she likes me? Is that her askingnme out?

Also I’d yes to above when can I suggest being a couple?



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30 Jul 2018, 6:00 pm

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She suggest we go to a steak place together sometime, does that mean she likes me? Is that her askingnme out?

Also I’d yes to above when can I suggest being a couple?


it sounds nice! and yes, she is asking you out. i'm unsure about suggesting being a couple because i feel people are too cautious/scared of it, maybe it's better to just let things flow? but this is also tricky because she can take it as lack of interest.

i'm glad things seem to be going well for you :heart:



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30 Jul 2018, 6:45 pm

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She suggest we go to a steak place together sometime, does that mean she likes me? Is that her askingnme out?

Also I’d yes to above when can I suggest being a couple?


it sounds nice! and yes, she is asking you out. i'm unsure about suggesting being a couple because i feel people are too cautious/scared of it, maybe it's better to just let things flow? but this is also tricky because she can take it as lack of interest.

i'm glad things seem to be going well for you :heart:


We haven’t kissed yet or held hands either
I should probably try next date no?
But do I ask first?
Yeah I don’t want to seem not interested:/



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30 Jul 2018, 6:48 pm

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I've just googled Alton Baker park. How about the Science Center? It's $5 plus Guests are also welcome to bring their own food and drinks to enjoy in our Community Room, which is typically open to all guests except when rented or booked for special meetings and events. You can tell her, you buy the tickets, she brings the food.

Or just get your gun, walk out somewhere where you can have a shooting practice with her. It's manly, you can show some "machismo" :)

Or the Museum of Natural and Cultural History? $5 too. Btw kinda shame. In the UK museums are free. Makes it easier.


The museum is good idea for future dates
They have a art museum that looks pretty cool. Science center is for kids.

No where we could get to to shoot guns lol i dont know if she likes guns or not. OkCupid says she’s more conservative for whatever that means.

everything here costs money. It’s america



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30 Jul 2018, 7:14 pm

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She suggest we go to a steak place together sometime, does that mean she likes me? Is that her askingnme out?

Also I’d yes to above when can I suggest being a couple?


it sounds nice! and yes, she is asking you out. i'm unsure about suggesting being a couple because i feel people are too cautious/scared of it, maybe it's better to just let things flow? but this is also tricky because she can take it as lack of interest.

i'm glad things seem to be going well for you :heart:


We haven’t kissed yet or held hands either
I should probably try next date no?
But do I ask first?
Yeah I don’t want to seem not interested:/


i'm not a very good person to give advice because i have very little experience and they were all different and somewhat awkward.

the first time i held hands with the guy i had a relationship was because i was unable to walk on my own :D it was my first time on snow, he end up taking this as an opportunity for more physical contact. maybe you should look for opportunities of physical contact that have a relation with your context, i think held hands seems OK to try without asking, for kisses, i think it's better to ask.



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31 Jul 2018, 2:17 am

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She suggest we go to a steak place together sometime, does that mean she likes me? Is that her askingnme out?

Also I’d yes to above when can I suggest being a couple?


it sounds nice! and yes, she is asking you out. i'm unsure about suggesting being a couple because i feel people are too cautious/scared of it, maybe it's better to just let things flow? but this is also tricky because she can take it as lack of interest.

i'm glad things seem to be going well for you :heart:


We haven’t kissed yet or held hands either
I should probably try next date no?
But do I ask first?
Yeah I don’t want to seem not interested:/


After three dates I personally wouldn't ask to be a couple. It's a little bit too soon.
But act interested.
Yes, you could start "touching", some little touches here and there to see how she reacts. When you two talk, just accidentally touch her arm, when walking in somewhere guide her placing your hand to her lower back, if you sit down in a park, sit close to her.
Or I don't know, grab her hand and tell her how cute her hand is or something like that and don't let it go.

And maybe when you say good bye you should go in for a kiss.

Btw I could see there's a river in your town. If you like a bit of exercise and her too, maybe hire a bike, ride along the river and have a picnic somewhere? Just a cheap date idea, especially if you could watch the sunset somewhere.



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31 Jul 2018, 2:20 am

She knows you are interested.



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31 Jul 2018, 6:33 am

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After three dates I personally wouldn't ask to be a couple. It's a little bit too soon.
But act interested.
Yes, you could start "touching", some little touches here and there to see how she reacts. When you two talk, just accidentally touch her arm, when walking in somewhere guide her placing your hand to her lower back, if you sit down in a park, sit close to her.
Or I don't know, grab her hand and tell her how cute her hand is or something like that and don't let it go.

And maybe when you say good bye you should go in for a kiss.


Is it just me, or do most of those actions look either obviously scripted and unnatural or intrusive and domineering?


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31 Jul 2018, 8:52 am

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After three dates I personally wouldn't ask to be a couple. It's a little bit too soon.
But act interested.
Yes, you could start "touching", some little touches here and there to see how she reacts. When you two talk, just accidentally touch her arm, when walking in somewhere guide her placing your hand to her lower back, if you sit down in a park, sit close to her.
Or I don't know, grab her hand and tell her how cute her hand is or something like that and don't let it go.

And maybe when you say good bye you should go in for a kiss.


Is it just me, or do most of those actions look either obviously scripted and unnatural or intrusive and domineering?


I just wanted to give some examples, they can look unnatural it depends on you, they can look natural too. As I said I just wanted to give some examples. The main thing is to break the touch barrier that's all.

I would be curious which one is domineering though.



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31 Jul 2018, 10:28 am

Any that breaks the touch barrier.


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31 Jul 2018, 10:41 am

I am sorry, must be different in the US, but in Europe men do touch women they fancy (not talking about harrassment!)
Is it a problem when a man is "domineering"? I mean men are supposed to be the leaders aren't they?
If a woman likes you,. touch is fine, if she doesn't like you...you can do anything she will not like you.

Sorry Sly, the only thing I can say is just try to enjoy the time spending together, don't fret about labels, let it grow naturally. She seems to like you (saying to go to the steak place), so just try to relax.



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31 Jul 2018, 11:07 am

Expect to spend at least $50 for two in a steak place.

Not a bad date, though.