I feel like it's over for Aspie men when it comes to dating

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10 Jun 2020, 3:11 am

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Introverted, socially award and have Aspergers. Those are qualities that you can not change. Some people are undateable. There is nothing you can do about things outside your control.



I agree.It's over for us dating wise and no amout of money or really anything can truly change our outcome when it comes to women.I have learned that over the several of years.Had a good job for a while until I got laid off(tho i might be rehired soon).Not a single female throughout my entire life have ever show signs that they're intrested me. It likely shows how over it really is for me when it comes to dating.I believe when talk about making money and this self improvement s**t is just a coping mechanism for people who are undateable.Persoanlly I feel if you are ugly,are short,or have social awkwardness/Aspergers,it's truly over when it comes to women/dating(outliers really don't repersent the average person who are in these sort of situations).



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10 Jun 2020, 3:49 am

I’m 5 foot 5. I’m not gorgeous. I’m a lower-rung clerical worker. I have almost no charisma. I don’t work out (I only walk for exercise). Yet I’m married and deign to talk to women (they’re human, after all).

You seem like a smart guy, Rick, who has come under the influence of a garbage ideology.

Most men are under 6 feet tall (except in Scandinavian countries). Even most black men (except for ethnic groups like the Tutsi).

I know you won’t hear me now. But maybe you will hear me later, when your thoughts make more sense.



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10 Jun 2020, 4:22 am

About a month ago, I had a conversation with my uncle that gave me hope for the future. Basically my takeaway from it was that girls in HS are more likely to be interested in the guys who, well, let's say their parents are more likely to be skeptical of them. However, when they're in their 20s and more mature, they'll be more likely to be interested in someone like me.

That has helped me believe that in a handful of years from now I'll find "the one" and has also made me a bit more okay with being single in the present.


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10 Jun 2020, 4:23 am

rick42 wrote:
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Introverted, socially award and have Aspergers. Those are qualities that you can not change. Some people are undateable. There is nothing you can do about things outside your control.



I agree.It's over for us dating wise and no amout of money or really anything can truly change our outcome when it comes to women.I have learned that over the several of years.Had a good job for a while until I got laid off(tho i might be rehired soon).Not a single female throughout my entire life have ever show signs that they're intrested me. It likely shows how over it really is for me when it comes to dating.I believe when talk about making money and this self improvement s**t is just a coping mechanism for people who are undateable.Persoanlly I feel if you are ugly,are short,or have social awkwardness/Aspergers,it's truly over when it comes to women/dating(outliers really don't repersent the average person who are in these sort of situations).


Where do the outlier women hang out?
Are you only interested in women outside your league?



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10 Jun 2020, 7:06 am

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Those who are always being turned down for dates need only examine the single most common factor in all of their rejections -- themselves.

Referring to women as "Evil Entities" might also be a clue.



Care to show where did the OP ever call them "Evil Entities"? In every single post he wrote in this thread he's not blaming anyone but himself and his traits. You're really just repeating what he's saying all the time.



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10 Jun 2020, 7:42 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Those who are always being turned down for dates need only examine the single most common factor in all of their rejections -- themselves.

Referring to women as "Evil Entities" might also be a clue.



Care to show where did the OP ever call them "Evil Entities"? In every single post he wrote in this thread he's not blaming anyone but himself and his traits. You're really just repeating what he's saying all the time.


I'm not going to read through the 4 pages of posts, so I'm interested in the presentation of evidence, also. 8)
The integrity of the person, who is making the claim, is at stake, for goodness sake! 8O :wink:



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10 Jun 2020, 10:21 am

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About a month ago, I had a conversation with my uncle that gave me hope for the future. Basically my takeaway from it was that girls in HS are more likely to be interested in the guys who, well, let's say their parents are more likely to be skeptical of them. However, when they're in their 20s and more mature, they'll be more likely to be interested in someone like me.

That has helped me believe that in a handful of years from now I'll find "the one" and has also made me a bit more okay with being single in the present.



Don't get your hopes up.Women never be interested in people like you.I used to believe when I was the same as age that females will become more intrested in guys like me since they were more mature,but fter all these bad experiences with women as a adult,I have accepted that no female will ever like me.Hopefully since you're still young,so have time to get women to become interested in you,however it's not looking good.



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10 Jun 2020, 11:16 am

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Introverted, socially award and have Aspergers. Those are qualities that you can not change. Some people are undateable. There is nothing you can do about things outside your control.



I agree.It's over for us dating wise and no amout of money or really anything can truly change our outcome when it comes to women.I have learned that over the several of years.Had a good job for a while until I got laid off(tho i might be rehired soon).Not a single female throughout my entire life have ever show signs that they're intrested me. It likely shows how over it really is for me when it comes to dating.I believe when talk about making money and this self improvement s**t is just a coping mechanism for people who are undateable.Persoanlly I feel if you are ugly,are short,or have social awkwardness/Aspergers,it's truly over when it comes to women/dating(outliers really don't repersent the average person who are in these sort of situations).


Where do the outlier women hang out?
Are you only interested in women outside your league?



Well even when I apporached ugly women,they still rejected me,so being only interested in women" outside my league" isn't the problem.Some people are truly undateable due to other things well out of their control.I'm actually pretty good looking. 5'10,I'm 169 LBS,and also have solid a face and had a decent job until I got laid off. Appearently,women don't see me as good looking since women never in a genuine way complimented me far as my looks.For some people,it's truly over them when it comes to women and I'm definitely one of these people.



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10 Jun 2020, 11:20 am

While they may see you as "good-looking", they may not see you as "attractive".

Appearance is only one aspect of attractiveness.


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10 Jun 2020, 11:24 am

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Those who are always being turned down for dates need only examine the single most common factor in all of their rejections -- themselves.  Referring to women as "Evil Entities" might also be a clue.
Care to show where did the OP ever call them "Evil Entities"? In every single post he wrote in this thread he's not blaming anyone but himself and his traits. You're really just repeating what he's saying all the time.
I'm not going to read through the 4 pages of posts, so I'm interested in the presentation of evidence, also.  The integrity of the person, who is making the claim, is at stake, for goodness sake!
The "Evil Entities" comment was directed at the writer of the preceding post (e.g., This Post).  Do try to keep up.


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10 Jun 2020, 11:38 am

Dating is like hunting with only one bullet. You only get one shot so you better make it count.

What this means is that if you go to a bar and get rejected, you may as well go home.
An ugly woman has feelings too, and nobody wants to be someone's "second best" choice.



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10 Jun 2020, 12:25 pm

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Introverted, socially award and have Aspergers. Those are qualities that you can not change. Some people are undateable. There is nothing you can do about things outside your control.


Some of the “undateable” people are even female (giant arrow pointing at me).

(No sarcasm, humor, or exaggeration intended, I really have had exactly zero people who have seen me in person show any interest in me)


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10 Jun 2020, 1:22 pm

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Phoenix20 wrote:
Introverted, socially award and have Aspergers. Those are qualities that you can not change. Some people are undateable. There is nothing you can do about things outside your control.


Some of the “undateable” people are even female (giant arrow pointing at me).

(No sarcasm, humor, or exaggeration intended, I really have had exactly zero people who have seen me in person show any interest in me)



Any female can get a date if they try or want to.Yes that's even including fat/ugly landwhales.Aspie women have no excuese for not being able to find a partner.Women have so many options,it's crazy.A woman can be very short and still find love.A woman could be fat and/or ugly and find a decent/good looking man.A Aspie woman( including even ugly Aspie women) can still get into relationships with good looking males. A man who have ether one of the three,espically being a aspie,they will be lucky to even have female friends,let alone a date/relationship with a female.I'm not even saying Aspie women don't struggle with dating to a extent,but compared to aspie men,they have so much better that our situations are uncompareable.I even say that Aspie women dating issue are more line with very short NT guys(guys 5'6 and under) than with Aspie males.



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10 Jun 2020, 1:29 pm

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I’m 5 inches shorter than you. Where do you get the idea that 5 foot 10 is short?

Probably from his black pill forums.
A while ago we had a guy on WP who insisted he had absolutely no chance to ever get a girlfriend because he was 5'11 and black pill forums told him that any man under 6 feet has no chance. As if women would bring a tape measure to the first date to make sure the man is above 6 feet and not even half an inch below.

Now, rick doesn't seem to be that extreme in his views. Still, anyone who goes out into the real world can see countless of couples where the man is under 6 feet. Internet echo chambers don't care what you see if you go out into the real world.


Have you considered that black pill/whatever he reads have some truth in them?


Earlier in this thread I acknowledged that the chances to get a date can be very low for some men. And I won't tell anyone to not give up on dating if they think it's better for them.
I've had a look at some black pill forum and similar stuff in the past (although it might be different forums than rick frequents). Some of it may have a bit of truth to it, but it's often so grossly exaggerated that it's a rather useless and misleading source of information. Like, yes height can play a role in attraction or lack thereof, but no being slightly below 6 feet is not a major obstacle in dating.



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10 Jun 2020, 2:20 pm

rick42 wrote:
dragonsanddemons wrote:
Phoenix20 wrote:
Introverted, socially award and have Aspergers. Those are qualities that you can not change. Some people are undateable. There is nothing you can do about things outside your control.


Some of the “undateable” people are even female (giant arrow pointing at me).

(No sarcasm, humor, or exaggeration intended, I really have had exactly zero people who have seen me in person show any interest in me)



Any female can get a date if they try or want to.Yes that's even including fat/ugly landwhales.Aspie women have no excuese for not being able to find a partner.Women have so many options,it's crazy.A woman can be very short and still find love.A woman could be fat and/or ugly and find a decent/good looking man.A Aspie woman( including even ugly Aspie women) can still get into relationships with good looking males. A man who have ether one of the three,espically being a aspie,they will be lucky to even have female friends,let alone a date/relationship with a female.I'm not even saying Aspie women don't struggle with dating to a extent,but compared to aspie men,they have so much better that our situations are uncompareable.I even say that Aspie women dating issue are more line with very short NT guys(guys 5'6 and under) than with Aspie males.


Then how come I’ve never even been asked on a date in my life (despite the fact that the number of people I have rejected is exactly zero)? I am slender and not particularly ugly (though clearly below average in looks, or I’d get more attention than I do (that is, I’d actually get some attention)) by the way. Though I suspect at least part of this may be because no matter how hard I try not to show it, everyone can tell that there’s something “off” about me, at least, and people also tend to assume I have some sort of intellectual disability just because of how I talk and/or present (in actuality, I have more significant autism than most people think of when they think of “Asperger’s,” though that’s my official diagnosis, and no intellectual disabilities). I do admit that if all I wanted was sex, then it would be easy enough for just about any woman to get because there is no shortage of men who are happy to have sex with anyone who has a vagina, but sex does not necessarily equal a “real” relationship. We don’t all get handed our pick of men on a silver platter just for existing.


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10 Jun 2020, 2:32 pm

Dragon has a bachelor’s in biology. I believe Rick has some sort of degree, too.